News & Discussion: Adelaide City Council

[abc]

Common sense has prevailed and the Comets have their fence & pitch upgrades approved after the matter was brought back to council last night:
https://www.indaily.com.au/news/2024/02 ... ch-upgrade

great

I might go along and watch some time

[timtam20292]

Of course Kieran Snape was one of the greenies to vote against it.

[Prodical]

The usual suspects voted against it

[Nathan]

Of course Kieran Snape was one of the greenies to vote against it.

His position was that a fence was ok, if it was retractable or removable (but also shouldn't be ugly). Not sure where he thought the money to build a retractable fence for a full size soccer pitch was going to come from (never mind the ongoing maintenance).

[rev]

Of course Kieran Snape was one of the greenies to vote against it.

His position was that a fence was ok, if it was retractable or removable (but also shouldn't be ugly). Not sure where he thought the money to build a retractable fence for a full size soccer pitch was going to come from (never mind the ongoing maintenance).

A removable fence setup in sections or panels, would have been a fair compromise for both parties involved.

[gnrc_louis]

Could someone please post this: https://www.adelaidenow.com.au/subscrib ... nt-1-SCORE

[Jaymz]

Could someone please post this: https://www.adelaidenow.com.au/subscrib ... nt-1-SCORE

Here you go, from todays online version of The Advertiser......

Adelaide City Council report to make case for increasing State Assessment Panel threshold to $50m
The Adelaide City Council has taken the first step towards a bigger say over major CBD developments – but one councillor has questioned whether the council is “mature enough”.

Emily Olle
March 27, 2024 - 3:57PM
02:40

The Adelaide City Council will take the first step toward increasing its say over major CBD developments, with a report to be commissioned to make the case for a bigger financial threshold for State Commission Assessment Panel (SCAP) assessment.

Following a motion carried at Tuesday night’s meeting, council’s administration will prepare a report arguing for the increase of the SCAP limit to $50 million.

Currently, the Council Assessment Panel (CAP), an independent body within the council, can only assess developments up to $10 million – a figure that has not changed since 2008.

The move, which came following advice from the CAP in its 2023/24 annual report, would give the city council greater oversight over major developments.

Poll: Would you support City Council having development control on projects up to $50m, instead of $10m?
Yes, the should have a bigger say on city developments: 13 %
No, they should not be in charge of developments over $10m: 87 %
347 votes
Councillor Phillip Martin said the motion would also capture the possibility of keeping certain types of development within council hands, such as multiple residences under a certain height.

Mr Martin said the motion was “straightforward” and no decision over whether to approach state government about a SCAP threshold increase would be made until the report had been commissioned.

“Our CAP is a body of people who act and think independently about development and their decisions would be enhanced by the capacity to consider a broader range of developments of a higher capital value,” Mr Martin said.

“(CAP) has been doing a sterling job in dealing with the developments it has.”

Lord Mayor Jane Lomax-Smith agreed with Mr Martin’s interpretation of the motion, saying it was simply “asking for a report, not actually setting a position”.

Councillor Carmel Noon, who seconded the motion, said the move was “well overdue”.

“I did a quick calculation on what $10m in 2008 would mean in 2023 based on inflation and it’s nearly double,” she said.

But the motion was met with hesitation from Councillor Arman Abrahimzadeh, who sought not to support a note that CAP had requested consideration of an increase to the financial threshold from $10 million to $50 million.

Mr Abrahimzadeh said he had concerns over “feedback from those in the industry and state government” about whether council was “mature enough” to handle a significant increase in the SCAP threshold.

He referenced recent backlash over a council saga involving the Adelaide Comets Football Club’s request to build a 1.1m high fence around its Park Lands home – a decision Premier Peter Malinauskas blasted as “crazy”.

“They (state government) do look at us and some of our decisions more broadly in terms of how mature we are and whether we are ready to have this sort of authority and decision making,” Mr Abrahimzadeh said.

“The example that’s been used with some of these figures is that of the fence for the Comets.

“Even though that’s not a development application, they are the examples … that refer to the maturity of this council.”

However, the Lord Mayor lashed Mr Abrahimzadeh for his statement, requesting he not comment on the capacity of the independent CAP body.

“They are independent members, they’re professionals and they’re chosen because of their skills and it’s unbecoming of you to reflect on their ability,” she said.

Mr Abrahimzadeh then clarified his comments “were not reflective of our CAP, they were reflective of our council chamber”.

A report will now be prepared by council administration, detailing the case for a SCAP threshold increase.

The motion comes after days of furore over plans to build multistorey student housing over live music institution the Crown & Anchor, with fears the pub’s 171-year history is “at great risk”.

Last week, The Advertiser revealed Singapore-based purpose-built student accommodation developer Wee Hur Holdings Ltd had applied for planning consent with SCAP for construction of a multi-level building at 188 and 196 Grenfell St.

The development has been referred to the City of Adelaide for response, but the decision ultimately lies with SCAP.

[gnrc_louis]

Could someone please post this: https://www.adelaidenow.com.au/subscrib ... nt-1-SCORE

Here you go, from todays online version of The Advertiser......

Adelaide City Council report to make case for increasing State Assessment Panel threshold to $50m
The Adelaide City Council has taken the first step towards a bigger say over major CBD developments – but one councillor has questioned whether the council is “mature enough”.

Emily Olle
March 27, 2024 - 3:57PM
02:40

The Adelaide City Council will take the first step toward increasing its say over major CBD developments, with a report to be commissioned to make the case for a bigger financial threshold for State Commission Assessment Panel (SCAP) assessment.

Following a motion carried at Tuesday night’s meeting, council’s administration will prepare a report arguing for the increase of the SCAP limit to $50 million.

Currently, the Council Assessment Panel (CAP), an independent body within the council, can only assess developments up to $10 million – a figure that has not changed since 2008.

The move, which came following advice from the CAP in its 2023/24 annual report, would give the city council greater oversight over major developments.

Poll: Would you support City Council having development control on projects up to $50m, instead of $10m?
Yes, the should have a bigger say on city developments: 13 %
No, they should not be in charge of developments over $10m: 87 %
347 votes
Councillor Phillip Martin said the motion would also capture the possibility of keeping certain types of development within council hands, such as multiple residences under a certain height.

Mr Martin said the motion was “straightforward” and no decision over whether to approach state government about a SCAP threshold increase would be made until the report had been commissioned.

“Our CAP is a body of people who act and think independently about development and their decisions would be enhanced by the capacity to consider a broader range of developments of a higher capital value,” Mr Martin said.

“(CAP) has been doing a sterling job in dealing with the developments it has.”

Lord Mayor Jane Lomax-Smith agreed with Mr Martin’s interpretation of the motion, saying it was simply “asking for a report, not actually setting a position”.

Councillor Carmel Noon, who seconded the motion, said the move was “well overdue”.

“I did a quick calculation on what $10m in 2008 would mean in 2023 based on inflation and it’s nearly double,” she said.

But the motion was met with hesitation from Councillor Arman Abrahimzadeh, who sought not to support a note that CAP had requested consideration of an increase to the financial threshold from $10 million to $50 million.

Mr Abrahimzadeh said he had concerns over “feedback from those in the industry and state government” about whether council was “mature enough” to handle a significant increase in the SCAP threshold.

He referenced recent backlash over a council saga involving the Adelaide Comets Football Club’s request to build a 1.1m high fence around its Park Lands home – a decision Premier Peter Malinauskas blasted as “crazy”.

“They (state government) do look at us and some of our decisions more broadly in terms of how mature we are and whether we are ready to have this sort of authority and decision making,” Mr Abrahimzadeh said.

“The example that’s been used with some of these figures is that of the fence for the Comets.

“Even though that’s not a development application, they are the examples … that refer to the maturity of this council.”

However, the Lord Mayor lashed Mr Abrahimzadeh for his statement, requesting he not comment on the capacity of the independent CAP body.

“They are independent members, they’re professionals and they’re chosen because of their skills and it’s unbecoming of you to reflect on their ability,” she said.

Mr Abrahimzadeh then clarified his comments “were not reflective of our CAP, they were reflective of our council chamber”.

A report will now be prepared by council administration, detailing the case for a SCAP threshold increase.

The motion comes after days of furore over plans to build multistorey student housing over live music institution the Crown & Anchor, with fears the pub’s 171-year history is “at great risk”.

Last week, The Advertiser revealed Singapore-based purpose-built student accommodation developer Wee Hur Holdings Ltd had applied for planning consent with SCAP for construction of a multi-level building at 188 and 196 Grenfell St.

The development has been referred to the City of Adelaide for response, but the decision ultimately lies with SCAP.

Thanks. They've got no chance - and rightly so

[abc]

$10 million will be an average 4BR house in the 2030's

[timtam20292]

I contacted the council reguarding the colour light in Topham Mall not working. Looks like repairs will be done to it. Pathetic really that its taken this long for something to be done.

[A-Town]

I contacted the council reguarding the colour light in Topham Mall not working. Looks like repairs will be done to it. Pathetic really that its taken this long for something to be done.

Have you ever used the male bathrooms at Topham Mall before? It looks like it's had no maintenance work done on it this century.

[HiTouch]

I contacted the council reguarding the colour light in Topham Mall not working. Looks like repairs will be done to it. Pathetic really that its taken this long for something to be done.

Have you ever used the male bathrooms at Topham Mall before? It looks like it's had no maintenance work done on it this century.

Personally, they're my favourite toilets but that is because I am into high-risk behaviour and adrenaline rushes.
If the ACC struggles to fix the light paneling of the Rundle Lantern, there is little hope for this to be fixed any time soon.

[abc]

I contacted the council reguarding the colour light in Topham Mall not working. Looks like repairs will be done to it. Pathetic really that its taken this long for something to be done.

Have you ever used the male bathrooms at Topham Mall before? It looks like it's had no maintenance work done on it this century.

Personally, they're my favourite toilets but that is because I am into high-risk behaviour and adrenaline rushes.
If the ACC struggles to fix the light paneling of the Rundle Lantern, there is little hope for this to be fixed any time soon.

[ChillyPhilly]

ACC Councillor Henry Davis had to be suspended from a recent council meeting when the Hutt Street upgrade was being discussed.

As is predictable in Adelaide's Big Country Town Mentality, it is unfortunately going to be a clash of ideals (pro-car vs pro-pedestrian) rather than facts or proven science that will determine the final outcome of the upgrade.

https://www.indailysa.com.au/news/just- ... ing-debate

[Nathan]

ACC Councillor Henry Davis had to be suspended from a recent council meeting when the Hutt Street upgrade was being discussed.

As is predictable in Adelaide's Big Country Town Mentality, it is unfortunately going to be a clash of ideals (pro-car vs pro-pedestrian) rather than facts or proven science that will determine the final outcome of the upgrade.

https://www.indailysa.com.au/news/just- ... ing-debate

He's following the same pattern as Antic before him:
— Find a business owner (even if they're not even in the area in question), convince them the sky will fall if anything happens to their street parks
— Then use them as the example of a "concerned business owner"
— Completely ignore all the stakeholder engagement and masterplanning done by council staff, the one anecdotal example outweighs all of that
— Act belligerent in council meetings, with a few choice phrases like "anti-car", and "bike agenda"
— Cry foul when other councillors shut you down, because they've had to sit through that nonsense multiple times before
— Parlay the "persecution" to social media