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Re: News & Discussion: Trams
Posted: Thu Nov 22, 2018 9:07 am
by Nathan
Is there something in the water at the moment? For the second time this week I’ve been on a tram when they’ve stopped the line because an idiot has done a U-turn in front of a moving tram.
Re: News & Discussion: Trams
Posted: Thu Nov 22, 2018 12:10 pm
by claybro
Nathan wrote: ↑Thu Nov 22, 2018 9:07 am
Is there something in the water at the moment? For the second time this week I’ve been on a tram when they’ve stopped the line because an idiot has done a U-turn in front of a moving tram.
PT drivers, trams and buses included, should be given the authority to photograph vehicles illegally using bus lanes, clearways and tram lanes and have the image submitted to police for fines and demerit points. It would soon stop.
Re: News & Discussion: Trams
Posted: Thu Nov 22, 2018 1:22 pm
by normh
claybro wrote: ↑Thu Nov 22, 2018 12:10 pm
Nathan wrote: ↑Thu Nov 22, 2018 9:07 am
Is there something in the water at the moment? For the second time this week I’ve been on a tram when they’ve stopped the line because an idiot has done a U-turn in front of a moving tram.
PT drivers, trams and buses included, should be given the authority to photograph vehicles illegally using bus lanes, clearways and tram lanes and have the image submitted to police for fines and demerit points. It would soon stop.
They can now if they wish to. Just save their video, send in traffic watch complaint, people do it all the time.
Re: News & Discussion: Trams
Posted: Thu Nov 22, 2018 1:22 pm
by normh
claybro wrote: ↑Thu Nov 22, 2018 12:10 pm
Nathan wrote: ↑Thu Nov 22, 2018 9:07 am
Is there something in the water at the moment? For the second time this week I’ve been on a tram when they’ve stopped the line because an idiot has done a U-turn in front of a moving tram.
PT drivers, trams and buses included, should be given the authority to photograph vehicles illegally using bus lanes, clearways and tram lanes and have the image submitted to police for fines and demerit points. It would soon stop.
They can now if they wish to. Just save their video, send in driving complaint, people do it all the time.
edit.
sorry may be not, depends on reporting person perspective I guess, I just found this at
https://www.police.sa.gov.au/services-a ... us-driving
When making a report provide the:
time, date and location of the incident
vehicle details, including registration number and description of the vehicle
details of the driving behaviour that you thought was dangerous
contact details of any witnesses.
Be prepared to give your name and contact details.
What is dangerous driving?
Dangerous driving includes:
tailgating
running red lights
speeding
burnouts
donuts
snaking.
Re: News & Discussion: Trams
Posted: Mon Nov 26, 2018 9:50 am
by Llessur2002
Taken from an otherwise fairly dreary opinion piece in the Advertiser:
When I called Transport Minister Stephan Knoll during the week, he returned it with the opening line: “Is this the first time we’ve ever spoken?”
Why, yes, Minister.
He said while the North Tce turn-right promise had been abandoned, the new Government had not abandoned more tram tracks.
“We’re not anti light rail, although we’re anti light rail to Norwood and Unley,” he said.
“The city loop is definitely something we’re doing background work on.”
This “background work” on a city loop — most likely extending the new Festival Theatre spur out to O’Connell St or the Glenelg line down Gouger St — is one of 10 projects the Government will submit to its promised Infrastructure SA quango.
“I like thinking about the roads less travelled,” he said.
So, Knoll has a cunning plan of his own — making the tram turn right, by turning left.
It’d work like this.
The city-bound tram would go along King William St, straight over the North Terrace intersection and stop just past the new Festival Centre station.
The driver could then move to the back, and take the tram left along a new section of track on Victoria Drive, running at the back of Adelaide University, turning right past the new Adelaide High campus and up Frome Rd to North Tce, where it would connect with the new Botanic Gardens stop.
Turning right by turning left. It’s so Adelaide, it just might work.
Knoll prefers the city loop options but gives it as an example of “a million ways to skin a cat”.
From:
https://www.adelaidenow.com.au/news/opi ... 729feca1b7
Re: News & Discussion: Trams
Posted: Mon Nov 26, 2018 9:58 am
by [Shuz]
That is the stupidest proposal I've ever heard of. Running a tram along Victoria Drive is literally a tram to nowhere. Adelaide University and Botanic Gardens are already serviced by the new route to the East End.
Re: News & Discussion: Trams
Posted: Mon Nov 26, 2018 10:21 am
by how good is he
I think his suggested tram route would also service the Zoo and the new Botanic high school as mentioned.
Re: News & Discussion: Trams
Posted: Mon Nov 26, 2018 10:28 am
by 1NEEDS2POST
[Shuz] wrote: ↑Mon Nov 26, 2018 9:58 am
That is the stupidest proposal I've ever heard of. Running a tram along Victoria Drive is literally a tram to nowhere. Adelaide University and Botanic Gardens are already serviced by the new route to the East End.
Especially the part where the tram has to change direction. That makes no sense.
Re: News & Discussion: Trams
Posted: Mon Nov 26, 2018 11:41 am
by Listy
1NEEDS2POST wrote: ↑Mon Nov 26, 2018 10:28 am
[Shuz] wrote: ↑Mon Nov 26, 2018 9:58 am
That is the stupidest proposal I've ever heard of. Running a tram along Victoria Drive is literally a tram to nowhere. Adelaide University and Botanic Gardens are already serviced by the new route to the East End.
Especially the part where the tram has to change direction. That makes no sense.
Plus if the gradient at North Tce/King William is a problem for trams turning, just wait till someone points out the gradient on Frome Rd as you complete this little loop & return to North Tce.
Re: News & Discussion: Trams
Posted: Mon Nov 26, 2018 11:44 am
by Norman
Don't listen to Matthew Abraham, most of the time is opinion pieces are a waste of time and space.
Re: News & Discussion: Trams
Posted: Mon Nov 26, 2018 3:20 pm
by rubberman
Listy wrote: ↑Mon Nov 26, 2018 11:41 am
1NEEDS2POST wrote: ↑Mon Nov 26, 2018 10:28 am
[Shuz] wrote: ↑Mon Nov 26, 2018 9:58 am
That is the stupidest proposal I've ever heard of. Running a tram along Victoria Drive is literally a tram to nowhere. Adelaide University and Botanic Gardens are already serviced by the new route to the East End.
Especially the part where the tram has to change direction. That makes no sense.
Plus if the gradient at North Tce/King William is a problem for trams turning, just wait till someone points out the gradient on Frome Rd as you complete this little loop & return to North Tce.
Radical idea here! Buy trams that can do these turns without spending a fortune on extra earthworks. There's trams around that have 18m turning radius vs the Citadis with 25m.
I'd also stick my hand up for the following route: Festival Plaza to Adelaide Children's Hospital, then along Brougham Place and Frome to the Zoo/new school to Botanic Garden. That would also serve the Adelaide Oval.
Re: News & Discussion: Trams
Posted: Mon Nov 26, 2018 5:37 pm
by Patrick_27
I'm sorry, but how that fuck is that guy our minister for infrastructure? That is probably the stupidest, pie in the sky proposal that has come forward with all these discussions of tram network expansions, and yet the Libs have time and time again called out Labor for thinking impractically...
Re: News & Discussion: Trams
Posted: Mon Nov 26, 2018 7:13 pm
by normh
Is it possible and feasible that a tram could change tracks use the “left turn” track and then move back to the correct track again and continue to the botanic stop
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Re: News & Discussion: Trams
Posted: Mon Nov 26, 2018 11:53 pm
by Ser Noit of Loit
Listy wrote: ↑Mon Nov 26, 2018 11:41 am
1NEEDS2POST wrote: ↑Mon Nov 26, 2018 10:28 am
[Shuz] wrote: ↑Mon Nov 26, 2018 9:58 am
That is the stupidest proposal I've ever heard of. Running a tram along Victoria Drive is literally a tram to nowhere. Adelaide University and Botanic Gardens are already serviced by the new route to the East End.
Especially the part where the tram has to change direction. That makes no sense.
Plus if the gradient at North Tce/King William is a problem for trams turning, just wait till someone points out the gradient on Frome Rd as you complete this little loop & return to North Tce.
Concept art of the tramline on Frome:
Re: News & Discussion: Trams
Posted: Tue Nov 27, 2018 8:34 am
by Listy
Ser Noit of Loit wrote: ↑Mon Nov 26, 2018 11:53 pm
Listy wrote: ↑Mon Nov 26, 2018 11:41 am
1NEEDS2POST wrote: ↑Mon Nov 26, 2018 10:28 am
Especially the part where the tram has to change direction. That makes no sense.
Plus if the gradient at North Tce/King William is a problem for trams turning, just wait till someone points out the gradient on Frome Rd as you complete this little loop & return to North Tce.
Concept art of the tramline on Frome:
After biking up that hill for years I could have done with one of those after a long day at work!
