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ghs wrote: in !@#% hole like Elizabeth.

If you honestly think Elizabeth is a "!@#% hole" You're a fucking idiot.

Go interstate an you will see Elizabeth looks like Burnside compared to some of their suburbs.

Elizabeth is a pretty ordinary area. Even people who grow up there must admit it.

I went to Queensland the other week and I found the people there to be twice more feral then Elizabethans. Yer Elizabeth may be bad in terms of Drug abuse, alcoholism and stuff. But places like ipswich were like zoo's.

Agreed that Elizabeth has nothing on places like Villawood.

Stage Two of the Mawson Lakes Town Centre has been lodged for planning approval:

Development Number: 361/1740/2010/MB

Applicant: Mawson Lakes Corporation Pty Ltd

Nature of the Development: Mawson Lakes Town Centre Expansion (Stage 2) Comprising a Mall, Supermarket, Fourteen (14) Retail Tenancies, Kiosk, Café, 2 Office Tenancies, Twenty Six (26) Apartments Over 2 Levels with Associated Multi-Storey Carpark and Landscaping

Location: 9-15 Main Street

Mawson Lakes SA 5095

(Woolworths will be relocating to a larger premises within Stage 2).

Drawings are available here: http://cweb.salisbury.sa.gov.au/manifes ... typen=html

I'm a bit disappointed that car parking will make up such a large proportion of the ground floor faces. It would have been nice to see the large gap in the Mawson Lakes street scape filled in with more shops by this development. It's unfortunate that they've opted for an inwards facing mall rather than outwards facing tenants.

Yeah i didnt like the plans either, all the street fronts are either, big blank walls, loading dock or carparking. Mawson Lakes already has a woolies and no other supermarkets have opened in the area yet, even though there is enough population for at least 3 (woolies, coles and aldi or iga), it's almost as if woolies own Mawsons, and if that is the case, this new development there will probably not have any of the following stores: an independent bakery, fruit nd veg, or butcher. Nice work woolies lakes

metro wrote:Yeah i didnt like the plans either, all the street fronts are either, big blank walls, loading dock or carparking.

No, not all of them.

Mawson Lakes already has a woolies and no other supermarkets have opened in the area yet, even though there is enough population for at least 3 (woolies, coles and aldi or iga),

Did you just pluck the 3 figure out of thin air? Mawson Lakes isn't all that populous despite the relatively high density development.

it's almost as if woolies own Mawsons, and if that is the case, this new development there will probably not have any of the following stores: an independent bakery, fruit nd veg, or butcher. Nice work woolies lakes

If the demand is there, it's likely more chains will come. There's still undeveloped land on Main Street, but that may not be needed - when Woolies opens in the new premises, the old one will be vacated, so IGA or Coles might take it over. Aldi won't be interested - after all, despite their reputation for competitiveness, they don't even have one at Sefton Park where there are lots of supermarkets.

And if they're building a mall, it's likely there will be independent fruiterers and butchers, though what with the Bakers Delight in the vicinity, another bakery's less likely.

metro wrote:Yeah i didnt like the plans either, all the street fronts are either, big blank walls, loading dock or carparking. Mawson Lakes already has a woolies and no other supermarkets have opened in the area yet, even though there is enough population for at least 3 (woolies, coles and aldi or iga), it's almost as if woolies own Mawsons, and if that is the case, this new development there will probably not have any of the following stores: an independent bakery, fruit nd veg, or butcher. Nice work woolies lakes

I'm not aware of any supermarket that doesn't have big blank walls or loading docks located at the back of the site.

When woolies vacate there is an opportunity for an IGA or Coles to move into the existing tenancy.

Unfortunately, carparking is what drives the development. My understanding is that there was a shortfall for the original centre and stage two now has to make up for it.

AtD wrote:I'm a bit disappointed that car parking will make up such a large proportion of the ground floor faces. It would have been nice to see the large gap in the Mawson Lakes street scape filled in with more shops by this development. It's unfortunate that they've opted for an inwards facing mall rather than outwards facing tenants.

That large gap is currently the main route for all buses running through Mawson Lakes so would be difficult to close that road.

I like the idea of the inward facing mall, it will create a space and atmosphere of its own without looking out onto the Mawson Lakes hotel. The drawings indicate that the mall will continue past University Parade and into the existing site which will form stage 3. That's potentially a 200m mall.

contractor wrote:I'm not aware of any supermarket that doesn't have big blank walls or loading docks located at the back of the site.

Some, such as Brighton Foodland and Grote Street Coles, have them at the side instead.

contractor wrote:

AtD wrote:I'm a bit disappointed that car parking will make up such a large proportion of the ground floor faces. It would have been nice to see the large gap in the Mawson Lakes street scape filled in with more shops by this development. It's unfortunate that they've opted for an inwards facing mall rather than outwards facing tenants.

That large gap is currently the main route for all buses running through Mawson Lakes so would be difficult to close that road.

Wrong gap! I think AtD's referring to the fact that so much of the Main Street frontage (opposite the hotel) will just be car park.

I like the idea of the inward facing mall, it will create a space and atmosphere of its own without looking out onto the Mawson Lakes hotel. The drawings indicate that the mall will continue past University Parade and into the existing site which will form stage 3. That's potentially a 200m mall.

The plans show a canopy above part of University Parade, but I didn't see anything about extending the mall across.

Ah, gap at the front. My mistake.

At the bottom of the page it says 'Future Centre Development' and the mall continuing south.

The rumour is that Target may take over the tenancy vacated by Woolworths.

bm7500 wrote:The rumour is that Target may take over the tenancy vacated by Woolworths.

Source bm?

fishinajar wrote:

bm7500 wrote:The 'rumour' is that Target may take over the tenancy vacated by Woolworths.

Source bm?

I wouldnt be at all surprised if it stays a woolies, and they have two woolies in Mawsons, just like down at the North Park centre, one on each side of main north rd.

I'm sure the residents of Mawson Lakes would love an Aldi or IGA, but because this is Woolies Lakes and Aldi/IGA are competitors it will probably be something that wont compete, like Target/Big W/another woolies etc..