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Will wrote:Unfortunately not Ben. The 72m height quoted refers to the 20 level plans. The 17 level option would have been 62m.

This must have shorter floorplates then the standard office of 4.1m?

20 x 4.1m = 82m

whereas at 72m this equates to only 3.6m which is closer to an apartment building which is 3.4m.

Ben wrote:

Will wrote:Unfortunately not Ben. The 72m height quoted refers to the 20 level plans. The 17 level option would have been 62m.

This must have shorter floorplates then the standard office of 4.1m?

20 x 4.1m = 82m

whereas at 72m this equates to only 3.6m which is closer to an apartment building which is 3.4m.

Yes, CCT8 has a floor-to-floor height of 3.7m

The estimated fit-and-finish date is currently October 2012.

Back down to 18... dare say Australia post have pulledout, yet it's only 2 levels s o i don;t knowwhy they don;t just go ahead i'm sure they could fill it by time it's finished.

Type Application Assessed on Merit
Application Number DA/66/2008/1/B
Lodgement Date 14/04/2010
Location Development Site, 12-26 Franklin Street, ADELAIDE SA 5000
Description Vary previous authorisation to demolish existing structures on the land (excluding the Darling Building) and construct a 20 level office building(with plant room on 20th level) with ground floor retail tenancy space and Australia Post sorting facility - VARIATION - Reduce height of building by removing levels 8 & 9.

Ben wrote:Back down to 18... dare say Australia post have pulledout, yet it's only 2 levels s o i don;t knowwhy they don;t just go ahead i'm sure they could fill it by time it's finished.

Type Application Assessed on Merit
Application Number DA/66/2008/1/B
Lodgement Date 14/04/2010
Location Development Site, 12-26 Franklin Street, ADELAIDE SA 5000
Description Vary previous authorisation to demolish existing structures on the land (excluding the Darling Building) and construct a 20 level office building(with plant room on 20th level) with ground floor retail tenancy space and Australia Post sorting facility - VARIATION - Reduce height of building by removing levels 8 & 9.

If they do that there'll be a big gap in the middle of the building!

(From Gravestmor, an old architecture blog from Sydney, via BLDGBLOG)

Should see site works within the next couple of months.

Type Application Assessed on Merit
Application Number: DA/66/2008/1/B
Lodgement Date: 14/04/2010
Location: Development Site, 12-26 Franklin Street, ADELAIDE SA 5000
Description: Vary previous authorisation to demolish existing structures on the land (excluding the Darling Building) and construct a 20 level office building(with plant room on 20th level) with ground floor retail tenancy space and Australia Post sorting facility - VARIATION - Reduce height of building by removing levels 8 & 9 - Stage 1 - Bulk Excavation & Retention

What is it with 18 Level buildings in Adelaide ?

Seems funny how 18 is about the maximum we get these days (with the exception of
the Harris Scarfe building).

I suggest that the reason why the developers are lodging both 18 level and 20 level options concurrently, is because the developers want to have a bet each way.

I suppose, the ATO and Australia Post only require 18 levels. With banks being quite tight these days, I think they are more willing to fund a building with 100% occupancy. The 20 level option is being thrown in, just in case they can find a tenant for these 2 floors.

My personal opinion is why not just go with the 20 levels? With pretty much no new free office space coming onto the market until 2013, I am sure that they would find a tenant for these 2 floors.

Will wrote:I suggest that the reason why the developers are lodging both 18 level and 20 level options concurrently, is because the developers want to have a bet each way.

I suppose, the ATO and Australia Post only require 18 levels. With banks being quite tight these days, I think they are more willing to fund a building with 100% occupancy. The 20 level option is being thrown in, just in case they can find a tenant for these 2 floors.

My personal opinion is why not just go with the 20 levels? With pretty much no new free office space coming onto the market until 2013, I am sure that they would find a tenant for these 2 floors.

In reality I'm sure it's because they are being conservative.

In ideal-world it's because they see no point in trying to entice tenants to fill up an extra couple of floors in this building when they are about to build a 40 level building next door.

The reason is that they don't want to oversupply the market not even a little bit. That would bring rent prices down, and they want the best RoI they can get.
Basic demand and supply stuff.

ghs wrote:What is it with 18 Level buildings in Adelaide ?

Seems funny how 18 is about the maximum we get these days (with the exception of
the Harris Scarfe building).

In answer to the bold - my question for years - ever since the eighties. Sure tenanting does not fill the explanation for all cases. Odd.

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Very encouraging - thanks Professor!

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