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Re: #Official Mining Thread

Posted: Tue Sep 02, 2008 2:57 pm
by Wayno
rhino wrote:Wow - Marathon's shares went up 4.65% because they discovered more ore in the World Heritage Area they were almost kicked out of for spreading their rubbish around it earlier this year.
it obviously did not cost much to clean up the mess (apart from the collateral damage to their image). I doubt the sharemarket punters worried too much about it...

Re: #Official Mining Thread

Posted: Wed Sep 03, 2008 6:01 am
by Wayno
China wants a firm stake in SA Uranium!

http://www.businessspectator.com.au/bs. ... enDocument
Sinosteel eyes SA uranium
Sinosteel has applied to develop a uranium ore deposit in South Australia through its joint venture with ASX-listed company PepinNini Minerals, according to The Australian newspaper.

The joint venture Sinosteel PepinNini Curnamona Management lodged a minerals claim with the South Australian government, which is the step made before applying for a formal mining lease.

Sinosteel said the joint venture to develop the $160 million deposit at Cocker Well has been approved by the Foreign Investment Review Board.

The Chinese steel maker has a 60 per cent stake in the joint venture with PepinNini holding the remaining 40 per cent.
This is a big step towards a looong term energy relationship with China...

Re: #Official Mining Thread

Posted: Wed Sep 03, 2008 8:41 am
by UrbanSG
Further to Wayno's previous post, this article is from The Australian website:
Sinosteel's bid for outback uranium
Jamie Walker | September 03, 2008

THE Chinese have moved to buy into Australia's booming uranium industry, with steelmaker Sinosteel yesterday applying to develop a $160 million mine in the South Australian outback, posing a further challenge to foreign investment controls.

The cashed-up Beijing-based consortium is eyeing opportunities in Australian resources, testing the Government's will to regulate Chinese investment in the sector.

Treasurer Wayne Swan already faces a tough foreign investment decision over a bid by Sinosteel for up to 100 per cent of West Australian iron ore miner Murchison Metals.

But Sinosteel yesterday insisted that its joint venture to develop a uranium ore deposit at Crocker Well, 400km northeast of Adelaide, had been approved by the Foreign Investment Review Board under the former Howard government. Sinosteel has a 60 per cent share in the joint venture company, with the remainder held by publicly listed PepinNini Minerals.

Sinosteel PepinNini Curnamona Management yesterday lodged a minerals claim with the South Australian Government, the precursor to a formal mining lease application.

Mike Rann's state Government is Labor's strongest advocate of uranium mining, having backed a new mine at Honeymoon near the Crocker Well site, and generally welcoming further investment in the industry.

Were it to proceed, the Crocker Well operation would be Australia's sixth uranium mine, and the fourth to receive approval in South Australia, after the federal ALP dumped its no-new-uranium-mines policy last year.

Joint venture managing director Fusheng Gao yesterday said that FIRB approval had been granted for the investment before Sinosteel bought into the joint venture company.

It would be the first investment Sinosteel has made in uranium mining, and underlines the Chinese giant's determination to use some of its $18 billion in annual revenues to snap up Australian resources.

This has raised concern about the potential for Chinese buyers of Australian mineral exports such as iron ore and coal to "vertically integrate" by gaining direct control of mines.

China is an emerging market for Australian uranium, with shipments due to begin later this year, according to Resources and Energy Minister Martin Ferguson.

Unlike India, which is also interested in Australian uranium, China is a signatory to the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty, removing any legal impediment to exports of the nuclear fuel.

Asked to clarify whether the company believed it would require additional FIRB approval to proceed with the Croker Well mine, a spokeswoman said: "Their understanding is that there is no further FIRB approval required."

Re: #Official Mining Thread

Posted: Wed Sep 10, 2008 8:12 am
by Wayno
More cash being thrown at Geothermal Energy!

This is such a promising area for the SA economy and the environment - i'm excited! That being said, the article below is actually quite boring, but highlights the mood associated with Geothermal projects...

http://www.news.com.au/adelaidenow/stor ... 55,00.html
PANAX Geothermal has launched a takeover of junior explorer Osiris Energy and flagged a capital raising of up to $30 million to advance its SA geothermal project.

Panax has agreed to acquire the unlisted geothermal exploration company, Osiris, for $14.8 million or 70.1 million fully paid ordinary Panax shares.

The merger is subject to Panax raising a minimum of $20 million in new working capital and has to be approved by the company's shareholders.

Panax has engaged international investment bank Dundee Securities Corp to assist with a capital raising of between $25 million and $30 million.

"The completion of the Osiris transaction will lift Panax as a geothermal company to a new level and provide Panax with the necessary funding to secure and advance geothermal projects both in Australia and internationally,'' Panax managing director Bertus de Graaf said in a statement.

Dr de Graaf said the company would have about $35 million to $37.5 million in available cash following the merger, which would help advance its key Limestone Coast geothermal project in SA.

"The significant amounts of carbon credits generated by producing zero-emission base-load power is the key to the commercial benefits the Limestone Coast project could create,'' Dr de Graaf said.

Panax currently has more than $9 million in cash, and no debt. Shares in the company gained one cent to 19 cents by 1324 AEST.

Re: #Official Mining Thread

Posted: Wed Sep 10, 2008 8:58 am
by omada
Further to Wayno's post i'm pretty sure that Geodynamics Ltd's pilot geothermal plant near Innaminka will be operational by the end of the year, I haven't heard any further news about this though, but it all looks pretty promising. Coal will soon be dead! ...hopefully...

Re: #Official Mining Thread

Posted: Wed Sep 10, 2008 10:32 am
by Professor
Yep. RIP to coal. Bring on geothermal and nuclear.

Met a mining guy in Melbourne las week. Well, he was standing in the hotel foyer with an ODX jumper on so I could not help myself! He was from RD and working at the BHP head office. He was very upbeat about the proposed mine and there did not appear any doubt about if - it's more about how. The deposit is so large that it takes a lot to develop the modelling a cost estimates. Also heard (from another person) that a large law firm in Adelaide is doing a lot of the preparatory legal work as well.

Will be a great day for SA when this starts!

PS

Prominent Hill comes on stream in a couple of months with first production before Christmas and is also likely to be expanded almost immediately.

Re: #Official Mining Thread

Posted: Wed Sep 10, 2008 11:26 am
by Wayno
omada wrote:Further to Wayno's post i'm pretty sure that Geodynamics Ltd's pilot geothermal plant near Innaminka will be operational by the end of the year, I haven't heard any further news about this though, but it all looks pretty promising. Coal will soon be dead! ...hopefully...
I believe the short term Geodynamics goal is to drill some truly deep pilot holes (4+km) by year end - for test purposes.

Actual electrical energy production from any geothermal mine in australia is at best 3 years away (based on what i've read and a bit of personal opinion as well). Don;t get me wrong, this is truly exciting stuff, and will just take a bit of time to play out...

Re: #Official Mining Thread

Posted: Wed Sep 10, 2008 1:56 pm
by Wayno
Exploration keeps on getting stronger!

The SA Govt set a target of $100m mining exploration per year through to 2014. We are now seeing nearly $100m per quarter!!! don't be surprised if a few more very large mineral deposits are discovered in the next 12 months. There's a stack of people out scratching around in our outback! :)

http://www.news.com.au/adelaidenow/stor ... 13,00.html
SPENDING on mineral exploration in South Australia rose to a record high in the June quarter, the state government says.

Mineral Resources Minister Paul Holloway said the latest figures showed exploration in the three-month period topped $95 million.

That brought spending for the 12 months to the end of June to $355.2 million, a 3.2 per cent improvement on the previous year.

Exploration spending in the June quarter was up 20 per cent on the previous three months. Mr Holloway said the figures showed South Australia was in third place among the states behind Western Australia and Queensland.

"These figures confirm that the global exploration sector has the highest levels of confidence in South Australia's mineral potential,'' the minister said.
As they say in the mining business - rock on!

Re: #Official Mining Thread

Posted: Wed Sep 10, 2008 3:41 pm
by Professor
As they say in the rock industry... Can you dig it?

Re: #Official Mining Thread

Posted: Thu Sep 11, 2008 5:02 pm
by skyliner
Thanks for that info Wayno. A good overview and gives perspective with the other states. We can get carried away with things here which could be relatively small. I gather also we have 40% of the world's uranium and as the exchange rate is near 80 - 81c a fat profit/royalty level is waiting!.

Do you have any info on proposed rail lines for any of our mines?

SA - STATE ON THE MOVE

Re: #Official Mining Thread

Posted: Thu Sep 11, 2008 5:51 pm
by Wayno
skyliner wrote:Do you have any info on proposed rail lines for any of our mines?
i'm not familiar with individual roads, rails, etc. I'm more of a big picture kinda guy - I like stats like "South Australia is expected to play host to 23 mines by 2015 and 40 mines by 2020" :-)

Here's some more big picture stuff. A study by the SA govt in late-07 considered ports, rail, road, air, utilities, water and skills. It captures the estimated infrastructure demands of 23 resource companies for five, ten and twenty year periods, including some 26 projects.

At a minimum, the 23 companies interviewed forecasted they will spend over $20 billion on infrastructure needs in order to expand existing mines or convert new mineral discoveries into operating mines.

Over the next 20 years, resource companies estimate their requirements will increase dramatically;
* Power consumption to increase five-fold
* Water and gas consumption to treble
* Road, rail and port usage to treble
* Employees to double

Here's anohter "quick and easy to read" mining infrastructure related doc. It will make you "feel very good" about SA's potential, although it's not rail specific ==> http://www.resourcessa.org.au/media/files/1302.pdf

Re: #Official Mining Thread

Posted: Fri Sep 12, 2008 8:22 am
by mattblack
So all this info is based on the 23 mines that are close to production? The other 17 mines you mentioned that are due by 2020 weren't taken into account?

Re: #Official Mining Thread

Posted: Fri Sep 12, 2008 12:29 pm
by Wayno
mattblack wrote:So all this info is based on the 23 mines that are close to production? The other 17 mines you mentioned that are due by 2020 weren't taken into account?
sorry if my post is a bit confusing. I mixed recent stats - circa May 2008
SA will host 23 mines by 2015 and 40 mines by 2020
against older but still relevant stats - circa Nov 2007
estimated infrastructure demands of 23 resource companies for five, ten and twenty year periods, including some 26 projects
The later statement (23 companies, 26 projects) is the basis for the $20billion spend, so 14 additional mines have entered early stages of discovery/development between Nov 07 and May 08 (very healthy indeed).

We can only surmise that an extra 14 mines means at least a few extra billion of roads/rail/etc beyond the $20b stated above. I believe the next SA Govt mining infrastructure analysis reports is due in Nov/Dec 08...

The key question being "Is the SA Govt doing everything necessary to facilitate the need for mining infrastructure"? I have no idea, but media/industry reports suggest we are doing ok-ish, but there's definitely room for improvement...

Re: #Official Mining Thread

Posted: Fri Sep 12, 2008 3:37 pm
by Shuz
The State Goverment's ability to allocate money towards mining infrastructure is partially inhibited by the availability of funds to do so, as we can only be taxed so much - private and business - without compromising their position of power in Government.
I would hope that the AusLink 2 funding round sees good investment into SA, and alleviate pressure off the State Government to use its own money into increasing its economical output.

Re: #Official Mining Thread

Posted: Fri Sep 12, 2008 4:16 pm
by Wayno
Shuz wrote:The State Goverment's ability to allocate money towards mining infrastructure is partially inhibited by the availability of funds to do so, as we can only be taxed so much - private and business - without compromising their position of power in Government.
I would hope that the AusLink 2 funding round sees good investment into SA, and alleviate pressure off the State Government to use its own money into increasing its economical output.
shuz, a large part of the SA Govts role is to "do everything necessary to facilitate the need for mining infrastructure", not pay for it. Sure it might help to throw in cash (i'd personally debate that fact), but the SA Govts core role is to "support the achievement and promotion of the safe, enduring and profitable resources industry of South Australia" (quote from www.resourcessa.org.au). It's an advocacy challenge.

Most of the $20b required for mining infrastructure will come from VC and mining company shareholders. It's a natural part of their business - they know that, and they are not asking the SA Govt for cash. Their model is simple: huge investment reaps huge return. We (SA) actually contribute to the ramp-up costs by offering a 5yr reduced royalty rate (1.5% instead of 3.5% for new mines - ODX is not a new mine by the way). A good example is in WA where BHP spent squillions of dollars building roads and rail explicitly to get to/from the mines. The WA Govt contributed zero dollars - but will have use of the road/rail once the mines are exhausted! Pretty good deal in my opinion.

Key things I believe (anecdotely) the govt is not doing efficiently:
* Communication/planning/approval between all levels of govt and resource companies (this is a key weakness)
* Creation of a true strategic infrastructure master plan. We can't rely on the mining companies to do this - they try and lock out the smaller players which is a lose-lose situation for SA!
* Rural town planning (should mining companies really need to do this? e.g. roxby downs)
* Supply chain industries (bringing up/down stream industries to SA. Without these the mining companies will limp along - e.g. tooling, consultants, equipment, services, PEOPLE!)

As you can see, these are bureaucratic/process hurdles, not requiring huge financial outlay. Sure they cost, but it's just govt people time, and we are really only talking the salary of a bunch of public servants!