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[Shuz] wrote:Cross-posted from SSC.

Really, I'm a bit miffed about this project.

When they rebuilt the station back in 2006, DTEI (now DPTI) told the public that the station was built in a way that would avoid it having to be rebuilt again when the Oaklands level crossing was to be eliminated.

Fast forward 6 years, 2012, and now they're telling us it has to be rebuilt because they want the rail to go over the road(s).

This will mean yet another closure of the rail lines for several months, inconviencing Noarlunga line passengers once more, which really isn't fair to those using the service having to put up with nearly 3-5 years of on/off closures.

It is an absurd waste of taxpayers money and proof of absolute neglience and incompetence by those working on the project within DTEI/DPTI. And I mean this quite seriously, because I intend to work for DPTI in the future and I think it's very important for organisations, whether public or private to not only accept criicism externally, but also from within.

jase111 wrote:Don't the reasons for grade separating the oaklands crossing stack up for Brighton road as well
More trains ,more often and electrified . Is the tonsley line part of the electrification ? What are the timelines
Because on dpti site it's due to finish June 2013 that's only 17 months away

mattblack wrote:

[Shuz] wrote:Cross-posted from SSC.

Really, I'm a bit miffed about this project.

When they rebuilt the station back in 2006, DTEI (now DPTI) told the public that the station was built in a way that would avoid it having to be rebuilt again when the Oaklands level crossing was to be eliminated.

Fast forward 6 years, 2012, and now they're telling us it has to be rebuilt because they want the rail to go over the road(s).

This will mean yet another closure of the rail lines for several months, inconviencing Noarlunga line passengers once more, which really isn't fair to those using the service having to put up with nearly 3-5 years of on/off closures.

It is an absurd waste of taxpayers money and proof of absolute neglience and incompetence by those working on the project within DTEI/DPTI. And I mean this quite seriously, because I intend to work for DPTI in the future and I think it's very important for organisations, whether public or private to not only accept criicism externally, but also from within.

Shuz,

Do you seriously beleive that your rebuild of Diagonal and Morphett rd will be cheaper, efffect less people during the building process and be quicker than rebuilding the rail line. Think you might need to look into the Cost Benefit Analysis of each project.

If you intend to work for the government you might find that priorities and funding change over time which basically dictates the whole planning process and scope of developments. Since 2006 extra funding has come to rail which means larger projects can now considered where before it wasnt on the raydar due to the inhibative costs.

muzzamo wrote:

mattblack wrote:

[Shuz] wrote:Cross-posted from SSC.

Really, I'm a bit miffed about this project.

When they rebuilt the station back in 2006, DTEI (now DPTI) told the public that the station was built in a way that would avoid it having to be rebuilt again when the Oaklands level crossing was to be eliminated.

Fast forward 6 years, 2012, and now they're telling us it has to be rebuilt because they want the rail to go over the road(s).

This will mean yet another closure of the rail lines for several months, inconviencing Noarlunga line passengers once more, which really isn't fair to those using the service having to put up with nearly 3-5 years of on/off closures.

It is an absurd waste of taxpayers money and proof of absolute neglience and incompetence by those working on the project within DTEI/DPTI. And I mean this quite seriously, because I intend to work for DPTI in the future and I think it's very important for organisations, whether public or private to not only accept criicism externally, but also from within.

Shuz,


This.

If I remember correctly when oaklands was approved the government wasn't even really committed to rail. Tearing the whole lot up was also being considered at the time.

The oaklands project was at the time the largest rail project in years and years and was less than ten million dollars.

Since then the government has committed an amount several orders of magnitude larger to rail. It's a vastly different funding environment with a very different level of government comittment.

Nort wrote:

AG wrote:The locals who currently drive to Oaklands Station will surely not be very happy with this layout, nor will the residents owning homes that would need to be resumed for this to happen.

The number of signalised intersections proposed seems excessive, some of them don't need to be there. If this is the way of preventing the rebuilding of Oaklands Station, then I see this solution as the equivalent of rotating an entire house around just to unscrew a light bulb.

This.

There seems to be a lot of sunk cost fallacy in this thread. If the cheapest and most efficient way of doing things now involves rebuilding the station, then that is the best thing to do. The fact the current station was only built a few years ago is unfortunate, but that just means there should be someone looking into why that rebuild was approved. We don't however have a time machine to go back and change the fact it was built.

http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/news/sout ... 6476805837

State Government reveals plans to build overpass at Oaklands Park railway station


PLANS for a train overpass to ease traffic congestion at the Oaklands Park rail crossing have been unveiled by the State Government.

The $100 million overpass would go over Morphett Rd and include an elevated station, accessed by lifts and stairs.

The unfunded plan includes up to 100 more carparks at the station, as well as walking and cycling paths.

A spokesman for Transport Minister Patrick Conlon said a $2 million study into how to ease traffic congestion at the intersection of Diagonal and Morphett roads found an overpass to be the most cost-effective solution.

"The cost of the project will be dependent on the timing but estimates are beyond $100 million," he said.

The spokesman could not put a timeframe on the project because of current State Budget constraints.

Mitchell MP Alan Sibbons, who has long campaigned for a solution to the congested intersection, welcomed the plans.

"Local residents have been calling for a permanent solution to the bottlenecks at this nightmare intersection for 40-odd years," Mr Sibbons said.

Marion Mayor Felicity-ann Lewis said the overpass would "resolve traffic snarls at the intersection". She said she looked forward to securing funding to ensure the long-awaited overpass was built as quickly as possible.

The plans can be viewed at http://www.dpti.sa.gov.au and the Marion Council chambers, 245 Sturt Rd, Sturt, from Monday.