[CAN] Spire Living | 107m | 37lvls | Residential

[skyliner]

Bit late on this one - been off the computer a few days - and look what happens!

I'm with you guys, NOT impressed for such a noticeable bldg in the current sea of mostly 'lower structures. Is there inside knowledge of more big bldgs near one of the blank walls in future - otherwise - not attractive and tends to complement the old phone exchange on Franklin St. (we all know how aesthetically attractive THAT is!) The old design was far more arresting IMO. But..what do I know.. there may be more to the renders than what I've worked out. There may be financial restraints.ETC ETC.

Note - I appreciate the heat issue - of concern to residents - but blank walls?

OUTSTANDING ARCHITECTURE FOR A SENSATION AL CITY - always the benchmark.(Heard something like about B'bane once).

ADELAIDE - TOWARDS A GREATER CITY SKYLINE

[Ho Really]

...Note - I appreciate the heat issue - of concern to residents - but blank walls?...

Unfortunately those blank walls (to the east and south) are on boundaries. We don't know if there will be other buildings there in future. In regards to the northern aspect, you would expect that to be blank as well since it is on a boundary. I think the building north of Spire could well be retained as heritage listed. Anyone know for sure?

I was thinking, does Spire's design incorporate double glazed windows and doors to the north and west? If yes, why can't they still have (tinted) glass balustrades?

Cheers

[Wayno]

I think the building north of Spire could well be retained as heritage listed. Anyone know for sure?
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We can easily find out (via the Planning SA online heritage database) if we know the exact street address.

[shiftaling]

almost anything but faux pearl concrete and 110m blank walls will do.

How about a giant mural or fresco?

[shiftaling]

Or - and this is a bit wacky I guess - a Bentham "Convergence"

[Omicron]

I was messing around mate, but it does look awful.

No worries, Pants.

As for colour and form - almost anything but faux pearl concrete and 110m blank walls will do. There are infinite examples of better residential buildings than this, so we don't need to get into specifics as to what the developers could do to prevent this resembling a 'commie block'.

On the renders we've seen, the proposal has little or no architectual merit, but is being put forward as some sort of landmark because of height alone. Given its size and location, it will leave a mark. The city deserves better.

Two sides of balconies and two sides of bare wall. You can't get around it. Plus they are looking at reducing heat loads (and saving money on energy bills), so glass balustrades are out of the equation. Spire isn't having much luck.

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The materials used for a balustrade are more important to the reduction of 'heat loads' on the window glass than the materials used for the window/door itself?

"The idea was to minimise that impact but when you add blinds to the outside of balconies, buildings tend to get ugly," he said."

My God - what about blinds on the windows themselves? What about double-glazing? What about tinting? What about the new SA Water building with windows facing east, north, west and south, for goodness sake? What about looking at buildings outside of Australia that have achieved high energy efficiency ratings without the embarrassingly simplistic retreat to concrete balcony facades, with a disgracefully-token 'light box' attempting to distract attention from the lack of ingenuity in this design?

I should hope that the offical renders show much, much more than just a hyped-up view of the existing tokenism, or I shall be remarkably disappointed.

[Ho Really]

The materials used for a balustrade are more important to the reduction of 'heat loads' on the window glass than the materials used for the window/door itself?

Obviously it is. You minimise the heat (from direct sun) as far away from the windows as possible. It seems Swiss Pearl does this reasonably well, however I did query whether the windows and doors on the balconies (and logically those widows facing north and west) were double glazed and if they could opt for tinted glass balustrades (which they sort of did with the green glass). Would a glass veil like VS1 suit you?

My God - what about blinds on the windows themselves? What about double-glazing? What about tinting?...

There is nothing wrong with blinds. People need some privacy. There are plenty of half decent designs around they could incorporate, and not detract from the original (or slightly improved) design.

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[Cruise]

shouldn't the title of this be changed to 110.1 metres?

[Will]

shouldn't the title of this be changed to 110.1 metres?

No it should be changed to 107.2m

I have no idea where this 110m figure came from.

[Cruise]

shouldn't the title of this be changed to 110.1 metres?

No it should be changed to 107.2m

I have no idea where this 110m figure came from.

Ask the advertiser, they'll know. After all they alerted me to the very significant 100mm difference in height

[Professor]

Enough procrastination on the spire... Anything over 100m is great.

Hope the council approves it and then they should just go ahead and build the mother.

[UrbanSG]

Professor, anything over 100m is great? I hope that is a joke. So you wouldn't mind a 100m plus Telstra Exchange building, Stamford Grand, old ANZ building on Grenfell etc (or any other damn ugly building) in Adelaide? No thanks!

The design is very very important. Especially in Adelaide where we have a relatively low skyline and such buildings really stick out. I would rather additions to our skyline were modern and had a lot of glass and not more and more solid concrete. Look at apartment towers going up throughout Australia and worldwide, the majority now have a lot of glass compared to a few years ago. This is creating more modern skylines, something Adelaide should be following (and was until this amended design).

I don't understand how the Conservatory which is meant to be an environmentally sustainable apartment building can have so much glass on its northern facade and it is fine, the same with Altitude (both northern and western) and other apartment towers going up but this proposal all of a sudden has to buck the trend and go back to having solid features to block out the sun? There are other alternatives which have been discussed which should have been implemented.

[bm7500]

Professor, anything over 100m is great? I hope that is a joke. So you wouldn't mind a 100m plus Telstra Exchange building, Stamford Grand, old ANZ building on Grenfell etc (or any other damn ugly building) in Adelaide? No thanks!

There's nothing wrong with the design of the Stamford Grand... the others i agree with.

[UrbanSG]

I hate the Stamford Grand or maybe I meant Plaza. The one in the city anyway

It is one of the ugliest and most bland designs in Adelaide and ages our northern skyline terribly. It needs a makeover. Inside it is just as bad. The old carpet makes the place smell like vomit.

[Ho Really]

I hate the Stamford Grand or maybe I meant Plaza. The one in the city anyway

It is one of the ugliest and most bland designs in Adelaide and ages our northern skyline terribly. It needs a makeover. Inside it is just as bad. The old carpet makes the place smell like vomit.

Yes, the one in the city got a brickbat way back for its exterior design. They should strip the facade and modernise it, and do it now!! Do it!! (a-la Ben Stiller as David Starsky Do it character... )

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