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Re: #Redevelopment - Port Adelaide Waterfront $1.2billion
Posted: Sun Jun 01, 2008 1:26 am
by Omicron
Why developers insist upon placing brightly-coloured blinds/windows in their renders that shall quite obviously never make it into reality, I shall never know - especially given they are so clearly detrimental to the entire project.
If this is in fact a genuine render, the three smaller buildings are remarkably underwhelming, and only the tallest tower has some merit - rather West/Gouger development, to be honest. Given the previous design, if this is what the developer considers 'stunning' and 'is to leave a great legacy for Port Adelaide and South Australia', then I would raise serious questions as to the abilites of the architects with whom they have consulted. With Spire, CC8 et. al. in mind, are we that bereft of creative architects in South Australia that we must accept basic, demonstrably cheap easy ways out for developments of such significance?
To be perfectly honest, I am beginning to tire of making concessions for underwhelming designs simply for the sake of development. I shall be hoping very strongly that the plans to be released to the public in due course are of a higher standard than what I see here.
Re: #Redevelopment - Port Adelaide Waterfront $1.2billion
Posted: Sun Jun 01, 2008 6:38 am
by Pants
How's this different to about 90% or other waterfront apartments being built in Australia these days?
So, about that icon?
Re: #Redevelopment - Port Adelaide Waterfront $1.2billion
Posted: Sun Jun 01, 2008 11:11 am
by Ho Really
I think the developers here are playing it safe, whatever that means.
Cheers
Re: #Redevelopment - Port Adelaide Waterfront $1.2billion
Posted: Sun Jun 01, 2008 1:11 pm
by AtD
Thanks Norman. Map updated.
Re: #Redevelopment - Port Adelaide Waterfront $1.2billion
Posted: Sun Jun 01, 2008 7:55 pm
by Cruise
If you get a spare minute pop down and have look at what is there already. Commie blocks anyone?
i might go down and take a pic tomorow, if i can be arsed
Re: #Redevelopment - Port Adelaide Waterfront $1.2billion
Posted: Sun Jun 01, 2008 8:11 pm
by adam73837
Norman wrote:
I like the new towers, particularly the one that's on the right side of the water in the picture. Although I agree with what Will said about the original tower. Replace the building on the left side of the water with the original proposal and it would truly be marvelous. Then add a few lighting displays in the water and it will be a really cool place to be in both during the night and during the day!
Re: #Redevelopment - Port Adelaide Waterfront $1.2billion
Posted: Wed Jun 04, 2008 2:00 pm
by The Proboscis Monkey
New plan for Newport
Adam Todd
04Jun08
A 14-STOREY high-rise which rivals the tallest buildings at Glenelg is the centrepiece of the next stage of the Port waterfront development.
The proposed apartment block is twice the size of any structure built in the first two stages of the Newport Quays development and would become one of the tallest buildings outside the Adelaide CBD.
Newport Quays submitted its revised plans for Stage 2B of the $2 billion project to the Port Waterfront Development Assessment Commission last Friday (May 30).
The tallest buildings in the first two stages of the Newport Quays development have been seven storeys. At 46m, the 14-storey high-rise would be just 2m shy of the tallest building outside the CBD, the Atlantic Tower revolving restaurant, at Glenelg, at 48m. It would be a similar height to the Stamford Grand hotel at Glenelg (47m).
It would be taller than Liberty Towers, Glenelg (44m), and the Queen Elizabeth Hospital (42m).
http://www.messengerwest.com.au/article ... _news.html
Re: #Redevelopment - Port Adelaide Waterfront $1.2billion
Posted: Wed Jun 04, 2008 2:05 pm
by Ben
Re: #Redevelopment - Port Adelaide Waterfront $1.2billion
Posted: Thu Jun 05, 2008 1:31 pm
by Norman
Re: #Redevelopment - Port Adelaide Waterfront $1.2billion
Posted: Thu Jun 05, 2008 1:51 pm
by Will
Great photos Norman!
Those photos are a damming indictment on the heritage and NIMBY groups. Just one look at the industrial wasteland that those groups wanted to heritage list shows how hysterical and out of touch with reality they are.
Re: #Redevelopment - Port Adelaide Waterfront $1.2billion
Posted: Thu Jun 05, 2008 2:06 pm
by rhino
Thanks for that great insight Norman - I agree with Will, although I must admit there's something about that old sawtooth-roofed building that I quite like.
Re: #Redevelopment - Port Adelaide Waterfront $1.2billion
Posted: Thu Jun 05, 2008 2:06 pm
by Norman
Exactly Will. I recently saw that map again of the entire overview of the developments, and it simply stunning what they are doing with the area.
Re: #Redevelopment - Port Adelaide Waterfront $1.2billion
Posted: Thu Jun 05, 2008 2:11 pm
by Wayno
rhino wrote:Thanks for that great insight Norman - I agree with Will, although I must admit there's something about that old sawtooth-roofed building that I quite like.
yep i agree. Sawtooth roofs look good and are great for letting in natural light. No reason why such a design could not be used as an architectural feature on some of the new Waterfront buildings...sort of a link to the past.
Re: #Redevelopment - Port Adelaide Waterfront $1.2billion
Posted: Thu Jun 05, 2008 4:02 pm
by monotonehell
Will wrote:Those photos are a damming indictment on the heritage and NIMBY groups. Just one look at the industrial wasteland that those groups wanted to heritage list shows how hysterical and out of touch with reality they are.
To be fair, those are not the buildings that they wanted retained. They were interested in the old heritage stone built warehouse and mill (I think it was a mill? memory is fuzzy) elsewhere. The ones I have in mind would have made an interesting architectural inclusion in a larger contemporary building. I quite like the blending of old and new when new buildings are designed to include old ones. For example, the old Kent Town brewery, the East End market façade, and a few of the late '80's buildings on Grenfell Street. But there's far better ones that I can't bring to mind now. It can be quite fun to juxtapose an old building into the construction of a new one.
Re: #Redevelopment - Port Adelaide Waterfront $1.2billion
Posted: Thu Jun 05, 2008 4:07 pm
by Will
monotonehell wrote:Will wrote:Those photos are a damming indictment on the heritage and NIMBY groups. Just one look at the industrial wasteland that those groups wanted to heritage list shows how hysterical and out of touch with reality they are.
To be fair, those are not the buildings that they wanted retained. They were interested in the old heritage stone built warehouse and mill (I think it was a mill? memory is fuzzy) elsewhere. The ones I have in mind would have made an interesting architectural inclusion in a larger contemporary building. I quite like the blending of old and new when new buildings are designed to include old ones. For example, the old Kent Town brewery, the East End market façade, and a few of the late '80's buildings on Grenfell Street. But there's far better ones that I can't bring to mind now. It can be quite fun to juxtapose an old building into the construction of a new one.
I know it is ridiculous but they actually wanted to heritage list the sheds featured in Norm's photos. Check out this article:
Trust bid falls flat
Chantelle Kroehn
18Mar08
MORE than 80 years of history was erased from the Port waterfront this week as the first of the historic Jenkins St boatsheds were demolished.
The old Lawrie Diving and Marine shed and Bill Porter's sheds four structures in all dating back to the 1920s are gone.
The land to the west of the Birkenhead Bridge is being cleared in preparation for a future stage Newport Quays development.
A last-minute bid by the National Trust to heritage list these sheds and save them from the bulldozers was too late.
However, the Trust will continue in its bid to save the remaining few sheds on the riverfront strip.
Port of Adelaide National Trust chairman Tony Kearney said he was disappointed some of the sheds were gone.
``It's a loss of some of the important history of the Port, a part of Port's history that cannot be replaced,'' he said.
``The boatyards have been there in one way or another for 170 years.''
The occupants of the neighbouring Searle's Boatyards and McFarlane's Boatyards have been told they must leave by June 30.
Those sheds are then set to be demolished in the second half of the year.
Mr Kearney said the boatyards were part of the Port's unique charm.
``Without the sheds, it will be a very sterile, sanitised environment.
``With a bit of imagination and goodwill, the State Government could save one or two of the sheds,'' Mr Kearney said.
The Land Management Corporation has previously stated it is restoring historic buildings in Fletcher's Slipway.
The National Trust last month applied for both State and Local Heritage listing for the sheds in the hope one or both would be granted and demolition works would immediately stop.
