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[PRO] Re: 1-8 North Terrace | 82m | 2 x 24 Levels | Apartments

Posted: Wed Sep 16, 2020 4:24 pm
by ozisnowman
rev wrote:
Wed Sep 16, 2020 11:17 am
North Terrace tower approvals quashed following appeal by Adelaide’s ‘carpark king’ Damian Lester
Renato Castello, Urban Development Editor, The Messenger
September 16, 2020 9:10am
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Adelaide carpark baron Damian Lester has successfully challenged the construction of a $200m twin apartment towers next to the Newmarket Hotel.

The Supreme Court today quashed the state planning commission’s 2016 approval of the proposed development on the corner of West Terrace and North Terrace, which was to involve the partial demolition of the state heritage-listed Newmarket, construction of a three-storey hotel and two 24-storey buildings containing 400 apartments replacing the former HQ nightclub.

Mr Lester, director of the Park Fast chain and owner of land next to the Newmarket proposal, had sought a judicial review of the approval arguing the rival project was a non-complying development, was not set back far enough from neighbours and that the commission had erred in its handling of the application.

Supreme Court Justice Greg Parker dismissed most of Mr Lester’s complaints but still quashed the approval, finding that “on the balance of probabilities” the commission had failed to consider appropriate set-backs for the development.

Justice Parker said the commission had incorporated into its decision documents that were “inconsistent, and in some instances wrong, as to the position of the (project’s) eastern boundary”.

“I find that (the commission) failed to have regard to the set-back requirement … as it was misled as to the position of the eastern boundary of the subject land,” he said.

He said that he was satisfied on the “balance of probabilities” that the errors in the information provided to the planning commission by the project’s architect and DPTI had resulted in the commission “failing to take into account a relevant consideration” on set-backs.

The decision will likely mean that developers One North Terrace Pty Ltd will have to submit a revised application to the planning commission.

Mr Lester’s case was heard over a five-day trial in September 2017 but judgment had been delayed pending settlement negotiations between Mr Lester and One North Terrace Pty Ltd which broke down in August last year, according to Justice Parker’s judgment.

Mr Lester has planning approval for a nine-storey carpark and a 16-storey hotel on either side of the Newmarket site.

In 2013 he had unveiled ambitious plans for a $150m office and hotel development on his North Terrace and West Terrace properties.
https://www.adelaidenow.com.au/messenge ... 0ecb9f28ed
That is pure madness from the courts. Why are the courts bowing over backwards to a carpark king.

Just what this state needs more of CAR PARKS...

He is only interested in keeping his carpark available to those wanting cheaper parking than that on offer in the hospital. He should not be given any special privilege

[PRO] Re: 1-8 North Terrace | 82m | 2 x 24 Levels | Apartments

Posted: Wed Sep 16, 2020 6:49 pm
by Norman
Well, if the applicant provided correct and consistent documents in the first place they wouldn't be in this mess!

[PRO] Re: 1-8 North Terrace | 82m | 2 x 24 Levels | Apartments

Posted: Thu Sep 17, 2020 1:39 pm
by CDJ
Why is this project listed as cancelled in the thread title? The court ruling likely means an amended DA submission will be required - that doesn't mean the project is cancelled.

[PRO] Re: 1-8 North Terrace | 82m | 2 x 24 Levels | Apartments

Posted: Thu Sep 17, 2020 1:55 pm
by Ben
After 5 years with no action most projects would probably be listed as cancelled but this one would be a new proposal anyway by the sounds of it.

[PRO] Re: 1-8 North Terrace | 82m | 2 x 24 Levels | Apartments

Posted: Thu Sep 17, 2020 2:38 pm
by rev
The decision will likely mean that developers One North Terrace Pty Ltd will have to submit a revised application to the planning commission.
From the article.

[PRO] Re: 1-8 North Terrace | 82m | 2 x 24 Levels | Apartments

Posted: Thu Sep 17, 2020 2:38 pm
by TorrensSA
You can see why it was un-approved by looking at the renders and the site. Look at the satellite image, it was only being built on the old HQ club, not the carpark or the grey fitness building. Mr Carpark must have ideas for his land, maybe he also owns the fitness building and has plans for apartments and of course carparks lol. https://www.google.com/maps/place/Adela ... 38.6038129

[PRO] Re: 1-8 North Terrace | 82m | 2 x 24 Levels | Apartments

Posted: Thu Sep 17, 2020 3:10 pm
by SRW
TorrensSA wrote:
Thu Sep 17, 2020 2:38 pm
You can see why it was un-approved by looking at the renders and the site. Look at the satellite image, it was only being built on the old HQ club, not the carpark or the grey fitness building. Mr Carpark must have ideas for his land, maybe he also owns the fitness building and has plans for apartments and of course carparks lol. https://www.google.com/maps/place/Adela ... 38.6038129
Yes, he already has (first), hence the lawsuit to fend off subsequent competition. Thread: viewtopic.php?f=7&t=4780&start=105

[PRO] Re: 1-8 North Terrace | 82m | 2 x 24 Levels | Apartments

Posted: Thu Sep 17, 2020 3:25 pm
by TorrensSA

[PRO] Re: 1-8 North Terrace | 82m | 2 x 24 Levels | Apartments

Posted: Thu Sep 17, 2020 9:58 pm
by Ho Really
TorrensSA wrote:
Thu Sep 17, 2020 3:25 pm
That would be one interesting corner if...both got built.
Yes, it would be a mini city.

Cheers

[PRO] Re: 1-8 North Terrace | 82m | 2 x 24 Levels | Apartments

Posted: Sun Mar 14, 2021 7:44 pm
by Ben
New application being lodged this week.

[PRO] Re: 1-8 North Terrace | 82m | 2 x 24 Levels | Apartments

Posted: Sun Mar 14, 2021 10:17 pm
by Mpol02
More height and a better design I hope.

With more emphasis on the later.

Thanks for the update Benny Boy

[PRO] Re: 1-8 North Terrace | 82m | 2 x 24 Levels | Apartments

Posted: Mon Mar 15, 2021 1:39 pm
by Norman
Given how dead this location is at the moment, and the state of disrepair of the existing buildings, pretty much anything is better than what is there now.

[PRO] Re: 1-8 North Terrace | 82m | 2 x 24 Levels | Apartments

Posted: Mon Mar 15, 2021 8:51 pm
by Mpol02
Norman wrote:
Mon Mar 15, 2021 1:39 pm
Given how dead this location is at the moment, and the state of disrepair of the existing buildings, pretty much anything is better than what is there now.
Don’t jinx that shit. A Dwell 2.0 in such. A prime location would be a worst possible outcome. Let’s hope for something at least in the vein of the previous design.

[PRO] Re: 1-8 North Terrace | 82m | 2 x 24 Levels | Apartments

Posted: Wed Mar 17, 2021 9:36 pm
by Ben
Looks like only minor amendments. Going before the scap next week and expected to be approved.

https://www.saplanningcommission.sa.gov ... hments.pdf

[PRO] Re: 1-8 North Terrace | 82m | 2 x 24 Levels | Apartments

Posted: Wed Mar 17, 2021 11:22 pm
by Mpol02
Ben wrote:
Wed Mar 17, 2021 9:36 pm
Looks like only minor amendments. Going before the scap next week and expected to be approved.

https://www.saplanningcommission.sa.gov ... hments.pdf
Let me guess. Further dumbing down of materials?