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Re: Deregulation of Shop Trading Hours
Posted: Fri Jun 16, 2017 2:47 pm
by Norman
All I would like to see changed really is the removal of the 5pm shut time on Saturdays and Sundays. There are still so many people in the city at that time, especially in summer, and the shops should be allowed to open.
Re: Deregulation of Shop Trading Hours
Posted: Fri Jun 16, 2017 3:44 pm
by Nathan
Norman wrote:All I would like to see changed really is the removal of the 5pm shut time on Saturdays and Sundays. There are still so many people in the city at that time, especially in summer, and the shops should be allowed to open.
That would be very helpful. There's nothing like having something on on the weekend, and having to leave before 4 because you need to make it to the supermarket before it closes.
Re: Deregulation of Shop Trading Hours
Posted: Fri Jun 16, 2017 4:10 pm
by claybro
mshagg wrote:bits wrote:claybro wrote: There is a book store at then end of my road, open til 10pm week nights. It is always full of people just browsing (and buying) various books and small gifts available.
So what is the regulation that needs fixing if stores can already do exactly what you want them to do?
Presumably this book store does not operate in the CBD, which is where the most egregious of the trading restrictions exist.
This book store is inner suburban Perth.-It was just an observation that where shops are open, people will browse and shop pretty much out of boredom. I don't imagine that people are too much different here than Adelaide (except there are no pokies over here) and FYI, although the shopping hours are a little more relaxed here, they are still complaining that Perth has "the worst trading hours in the world"...now where have I heard that before?!
Re: Deregulation of Shop Trading Hours
Posted: Fri Jun 16, 2017 4:58 pm
by monotonehell
Re: Deregulation of Shop Trading Hours
Posted: Mon Jun 19, 2017 7:41 pm
by ghs
Nathan wrote:Norman wrote:All I would like to see changed really is the removal of the 5pm shut time on Saturdays and Sundays. There are still so many people in the city at that time, especially in summer, and the shops should be allowed to open.
That would be very helpful. There's nothing like having something on on the weekend, and having to leave before 4 because you need to make it to the supermarket before it closes.
I couldn't agree more.
Too bad if you work all day Saturday or sunday and want to go to a supermarket.
Supermarkets should be allowed to open earlier on Sunday morning as well. The Coles on grote street normally
has a line up of about 50 people on Sunday morning when it finally opens at 11am.
Re: Deregulation of Shop Trading Hours
Posted: Tue Jun 20, 2017 12:30 am
by mshagg
ghs wrote:Nathan wrote:Norman wrote:All I would like to see changed really is the removal of the 5pm shut time on Saturdays and Sundays. There are still so many people in the city at that time, especially in summer, and the shops should be allowed to open.
That would be very helpful. There's nothing like having something on on the weekend, and having to leave before 4 because you need to make it to the supermarket before it closes.
I couldn't agree more.
Too bad if you work all day Saturday or sunday and want to go to a supermarket.
Supermarkets should be allowed to open earlier on Sunday morning as well. The Coles on grote street normally
has a line up of about 50 people on Sunday morning when it finally opens at 11am.
A good example of the peculiarities which could easily be addressed without going complete laissez faire.
It's currently just after midnight, tuesday AM and I can walk over to coles to grab a few things. But at 9am on a sunday? Guess I should be attending mass...
Re: Deregulation of Shop Trading Hours
Posted: Tue Jun 20, 2017 9:30 am
by monotonehell
mshagg wrote:...It's currently just after midnight, tuesday AM and I can walk over to coles to grab a few things. But at 9am on a sunday? Guess I should be attending mass...
Yeah we claim it's about church, but late start Sunday is so all the retail workers can go out Saturday night.
Re: Deregulation of Shop Trading Hours
Posted: Sun Jun 25, 2017 10:56 am
by Hooligan
Although I believe convenience + higher prices for goods = longer shopping hours It would be nice to see the rules clarified. Like, why are supermarkets (you know, those places you buy life sustaining things such as food) closed on public holidays but Bunnings can sell you hardware at almost anytime it damn well pleases?
Don't get me wrong though, the obvious answer to this problem is if you run out of food on a public holiday you can always live off Bunnings sausage sizzles.
Re: Deregulation of Shop Trading Hours
Posted: Sun Jun 25, 2017 1:44 pm
by bits
Hooligan wrote:Like, why are supermarkets (you know, those places you buy life sustaining things such as food) closed on public holidays but Bunnings can sell you hardware at almost anytime it damn well pleases?
Surely the obvious answer is that it is typical and plannable to stock up a few days of food in the pantry and fridge but not typical to stock up on random building materials to keep your house liveable.
Eg taps, shower heads, toilets, timber, pipes etc.
Hardware stores including Bunnings are open extended hours to support people and trades for urgent repairs for homes. Those repairs might be required on public holidays.
Bunnings Parafield has even extended extended hours due to the federal land it sits on excluding it from SA trade laws.
Re: Deregulation of Shop Trading Hours
Posted: Tue Oct 31, 2017 6:24 pm
by ghs
Alexa1994 wrote: ↑Fri Jul 07, 2017 10:00 pm
Splashmo wrote:Can someone please explain to me why some supermarkets close at 9pm and open at midnight?
Wouldn't it make more sense to trade until midnight and reopen at 6am?
Why did they do that?
They do this because due to the current regulations they're not able to open between 9pm and midnight.
This is why the government regulations need to be changed.
Re: Deregulation of Shop Trading Hours
Posted: Mon Dec 04, 2017 6:30 pm
by monotonehell
Nick Xenophon's SA Best party to oppose deregulated shopping hours
The SA Best party led by former senator Nick Xenophon will block any move to deregulate shop trading hours in South Australia.
In a significant blow to the state Opposition's hopes to deregulate hours if it wins the March election, the potential kingmaker — who has fielded up to six Lower House candidates — said he did not "get" why the Liberals would support shops opening for longer. Mr Xenophon said it would devastate small and medium-sized businesses, including independent stores like IGA, that take advantage of big supermarkets having to close early on weekends and open late on Sunday.
"I'll be committing to SA Best ensuring that we will block any move by the Liberals to have deregulated shop trading hours," he said. Deregulate shop trading hours and you'll actually end up destroying hundreds if not thousands of jobs around the state."
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http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-12-04/n ... rs/9224404
Re: Deregulation of Shop Trading Hours
Posted: Mon Dec 04, 2017 7:04 pm
by SRW
Look, I’ve always supported Xenophon’s place in the political landscape because he’s had utility as a thorn in the side of the major players and as an advocate. But now that his return to state politics sees him becoming a major player, it’s concerning that most of what we know about him is what he’s opposed to rather than what he stands for. I’m hoping for a less reactionary campaign.
Re: Deregulation of Shop Trading Hours
Posted: Mon Dec 04, 2017 7:29 pm
by Goodsy
SRW wrote: ↑Mon Dec 04, 2017 7:04 pm
Look, I’ve always supported Xenophon’s place in the political landscape because he’s had utility as a thorn in the side of the major players and as an advocate. But now that his return to state politics sees him becoming a major player, it’s concerning that most of what we know about him is what he’s opposed to rather than what he stands for. I’m hoping for a less reactionary campaign.
it's all here
https://sabest.org.au/policy-principles/
Re: Deregulation of Shop Trading Hours
Posted: Mon Dec 04, 2017 10:05 pm
by Llessur2002
Goodsy wrote:SRW wrote: ↑Mon Dec 04, 2017 7:04 pm
Look, I’ve always supported Xenophon’s place in the political landscape because he’s had utility as a thorn in the side of the major players and as an advocate. But now that his return to state politics sees him becoming a major player, it’s concerning that most of what we know about him is what he’s opposed to rather than what he stands for. I’m hoping for a less reactionary campaign.
it's all here
https://sabest.org.au/policy-principles/
Sort of - this is just a copy and paste of NXT's policy overview and much of it relates to federal politics rather than state. I'm interested to see whether they'll release a similar policy summary for state-level issues.
Re: Deregulation of Shop Trading Hours
Posted: Tue Dec 05, 2017 9:42 am
by [Shuz]
Interesting - 100% poll response in favour of deregulation of shop trading hours.
Liberals support deregulation.
Labor / NXT are against deregulation.
So are we all Liberals now?