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Re: News & Discussion: Trams
Posted: Thu Sep 03, 2020 1:00 pm
by Nort
Don't forget the turn between King William Street and North Terrace which was the most important PT issue in the state until they got in power.
Re: News & Discussion: Trams
Posted: Thu Sep 03, 2020 6:08 pm
by Joelmark
Fairly confident Labor will at least have costed plans to extend tram to Prospect, and commit to Outer Harbor electrification. Potential feasibility study into extension of rail to Aldinga and tourist rail to Barossa (this would require a heavy subsidy from state govt., no doubt).
Trains and trams will be brought back under state operation as soon as practical.
Re: News & Discussion: Trams
Posted: Thu Sep 03, 2020 9:44 pm
by SBD
Joelmark wrote: ↑Thu Sep 03, 2020 6:08 pm
Fairly confident Labor will at least have costed plans to extend tram to Prospect, and commit to Outer Harbor electrification. Potential feasibility study into extension of rail to Aldinga and tourist rail to Barossa (this would require a heavy subsidy from state govt., no doubt).
Trains and trams will be brought back under state operation as soon as practical.
Why does Labor think that rail (trains and trams) must be state-operated, but it's happy for buses to be privately-operated on state roads?
As much as I like the idea of tourist trains to the Barossa, the layout of the valley doesn't make it attractive. It's not far enough to make the train journey itself financially viable (eg restore and operate a broad gauge steam train), and the destination means tourists have to transfer to a bus in Tanunda, so might as well have saved time by getting picked up from their hotels and driven out. The return route can give a taste of Adelaide Hills to encourage them to book in to that tour the next day. Commuter trains to the Barossa would make it just another northern suburb, and eventually destroy what makes it special.
Re: News & Discussion: Trams
Posted: Fri Sep 04, 2020 11:54 pm
by 1NEEDS2POST
Joelmark wrote: ↑Thu Sep 03, 2020 6:08 pm
Fairly confident Labor will at least have costed plans to extend tram to Prospect, and commit to Outer Harbor electrification. Potential feasibility study into extension of rail to Aldinga and tourist rail to Barossa (this would require a heavy subsidy from state govt., no doubt).
Trains and trams will be brought back under state operation as soon as practical.
If they extend the railway to Aldinga, then why not Sellicks Beach, which is not much further and the furthest they can practically build without tunnels.
Re: News & Discussion: Trams
Posted: Sat Sep 05, 2020 2:37 am
by Spotto
1NEEDS2POST wrote: ↑Fri Sep 04, 2020 11:54 pm
Joelmark wrote: ↑Thu Sep 03, 2020 6:08 pm
Fairly confident Labor will at least have costed plans to extend tram to Prospect, and commit to Outer Harbor electrification. Potential feasibility study into extension of rail to Aldinga and tourist rail to Barossa (this would require a heavy subsidy from state govt., no doubt).
Trains and trams will be brought back under state operation as soon as practical.
If they extend the railway to Aldinga, then why not Sellicks Beach, which is not much further and the furthest they can practically build without tunnels.
Because unlike the rapid urban development and population increase at Aldinga Beach, Sellicks Beach is still a stagnant fringe locality. Plus the corridor to Aldinga Beach is owned by the government and is essentially ready to be built on, there is no corridor beyond Aldinga yet which would take time to sort out. They should definitely look at securing a corridor for future use but until there is interest in developing Sellicks Beach and anticipated demand for a rail service it won’t happen.
Re: News & Discussion: Trams
Posted: Sun Sep 06, 2020 9:03 pm
by Verbatim9
Re: News & Discussion: Trams
Posted: Sun Sep 06, 2020 9:04 pm
by Verbatim9
^^This is unexpected but good.
Re: News & Discussion: Trams
Posted: Fri Oct 16, 2020 12:43 pm
by Norman
Some of the light poles along North Terrace will be replaced over the coming few weeks. Are there any that are still crooked film the original extension works?
Re: News & Discussion: Trams
Posted: Fri Oct 16, 2020 3:16 pm
by Spotto
Norman wrote: ↑Fri Oct 16, 2020 12:43 pm
Some of the light poles along North Terrace will be replaced over the coming few weeks. Are there any that are still crooked film the original extension works?
A 2-year old project and the street lights are already crooked? What happened??
Re: News & Discussion: Trams
Posted: Fri Oct 16, 2020 9:31 pm
by rubberman
Spotto wrote: ↑Fri Oct 16, 2020 3:16 pm
Norman wrote: ↑Fri Oct 16, 2020 12:43 pm
Some of the light poles along North Terrace will be replaced over the coming few weeks. Are there any that are still crooked film the original extension works?
A 2-year old project and the street lights are already crooked? What happened??
They were crooked from day 1. There were a few posts on this forum about it at the time.
Re: News & Discussion: Trams
Posted: Sat Oct 17, 2020 8:53 pm
by timtam20292
Dear Resident / Business Owner
The Department for Infrastructure and Transport (the Department) will be replacing 38 light poles on King William Road and North Terrace along the Festival Plaza and Botanic tram lines, enhancing the visual amenity of these important cultural precincts.
As part of the City Tram Extension Project, the overhead wiring system was attached to the existing light poles.
The poles are now approaching the end of their expected useful life and need to be replaced within the next couple of years. By replacing them now, the poles will be structurally sound for decades to come and allow the City of Adelaide to use them for banners and signage.
These works have been planned to coincide with reduced traffic in the CBD and a reduction in public transport patronage due to the COVID-19 pandemic.
Works to replace the poles will commence in October and will be staged to minimise disruption to road users, public transport commuters, local traders and the broader community.
Further information
If you have any questions, or wish to speak with a member of the project team, please
call: 1300 794 880 or
email:
[email protected].
visit:
www.citytramextension.sa.gov.au
For public transport information or to plan your journey, please visit
www.adelaidemetro.com.au
The Department appreciates your patience and cooperation while these important works are undertaken.
Kind regards,
The Department for Infrastructure and Transport
Re: News & Discussion: Trams
Posted: Sun Oct 18, 2020 5:02 am
by Joelmark
I think the wonky poles are a mixture of ones installed from the streetscape upgrades 2003-10 and the tram extension 2017. But they were all disfigured by the overhead tram cables. Credit I guess to DIT for recognising they look awful and replacing them.
Re: News & Discussion: Trams
Posted: Sun Oct 18, 2020 6:18 pm
by Patrick_27
Finally! The only stupid thing is that they've almost finished the first part of the paving works and these replacements are likely to spoil the new paving work...
Re: News & Discussion: Trams
Posted: Fri May 07, 2021 10:00 pm
by how good is he
If the Crows HQs moves to Bowden (vs Thebarton) a new tram extension/stop down Port Rd (between say Chief St and Milner St) could service this and also Hindmarsh stadium.
I would also like one more tram stop to AO but I have read that just the bridge would first need $50m spent for this to occur.
Re: News & Discussion: Trams
Posted: Fri May 07, 2021 10:08 pm
by ChillyPhilly
how good is he wrote:If the Crows HQs moves to Bowden (vs Thebarton) a new tram extension/stop down Port Rd (between say Chief St and Milner St) could service this and also Hindmarsh stadium.
I would also like one more tram stop to AO but I have read that just the bridge would first need $50m spent for this to occur.
That $50m figure is based on some erroneous early opinion, based on reinforcement for the bridge for 'heavy rail' - which a tramline is not.
