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Jacob_ULG3 wrote: ↑

Mon Dec 14, 2020 12:10 am

ChillyPhilly wrote: ↑

Mon Dec 14, 2020 12:00 am

adelaide transport wrote: ↑

Sun Dec 13, 2020 4:04 pm

Drove over Elizabeth Way bridge last week-no work whatsoever has started from Elizabeth Station heading North?

I feel like the bulk of the project will be done in two stages: Adelaide to Salisbury, then Salisbury to Gawler Central.

That was how the project first started.

Stage One (est cost. $152.5 Mill) between Adl - Salisbury and Was state government funded.
Stage Two (Est cost. $462.5 Mill) between Salisbury and GAWC was jointly funded by state and federal.

without the federal govt getting involved, only half the line wouldve been done.

My theory is that they are getting Stage One Done in 2020 and then Stage Two Done Next Year. It shows when according to Adelaide Metro's Gawler Line closures site that from April 2021 that between Adelaide and Mawson Lakes will be open and the rest of the line being shut. Same when Stage One includes shut down from Adelaide to Salisbury Until Xmas Day 2020 and then full line closures afterwards. Even after the July 2021 school holidays that between Salisbury and Gawler Central is shut and then Adelaide to Salisbury is open.

Kind of gives it away seeing as they have been working on between Adelaide and Salisbury all year this year.

Brucetiki wrote: ↑

Mon Dec 14, 2020 2:02 pm

Jacob_ULG3 wrote: ↑

Mon Dec 14, 2020 12:10 am

ChillyPhilly wrote: ↑

Mon Dec 14, 2020 12:00 am

I feel like the bulk of the project will be done in two stages: Adelaide to Salisbury, then Salisbury to Gawler Central.

That was how the project first started.

Stage One (est cost. $152.5 Mill) between Adl - Salisbury and Was state government funded.
Stage Two (Est cost. $462.5 Mill) between Salisbury and GAWC was jointly funded by state and federal.

without the federal govt getting involved, only half the line wouldve been done.

My theory is that they are getting Stage One Done in 2020 and then Stage Two Done Next Year. It shows when according to Adelaide Metro's Gawler Line closures site that from April 2021 that between Adelaide and Mawson Lakes will be open and the rest of the line being shut. Same when Stage One includes shut down from Adelaide to Salisbury Until Xmas Day 2020 and then full line closures afterwards. Even after the July 2021 school holidays that between Salisbury and Gawler Central is shut and then Adelaide to Salisbury is open.

Kind of gives it away seeing as they have been working on between Adelaide and Salisbury all year this year.

Question is while they work on stage 2, will they use the electrics for stage 1, or keep to diesel until the new rolling stock rolls up

Jacob_ULG3 wrote: ↑

Sun Dec 20, 2020 11:02 am

I've noticed the survey pegs out at the elizabeth turn back track. I hope they can actually connect that track up because its not properly connected.

Spotto wrote: ↑

Sun Dec 20, 2020 2:29 pm

Jacob_ULG3 wrote: ↑

Sun Dec 20, 2020 11:02 am

I've noticed the survey pegs out at the elizabeth turn back track. I hope they can actually connect that track up because its not properly connected.

The turnback is already fully connected for each direction of travel, it's just that the centre track extends a little north and south beyond the connecting points for some reason.

PD2/20 wrote: ↑

Sun Dec 20, 2020 5:31 pm

Spotto wrote: ↑

Sun Dec 20, 2020 2:29 pm

Jacob_ULG3 wrote: ↑

Sun Dec 20, 2020 11:02 am

I've noticed the survey pegs out at the elizabeth turn back track. I hope they can actually connect that track up because its not properly connected.

The turnback is already fully connected for each direction of travel, it's just that the centre track extends a little north and south beyond the connecting points for some reason.

Jacob_UGL3 is correct in saying the Elizabeth turn back is not properly connected. When constructed in 2012 in early works for electrification the switches and point motors were installed. The signalling for the turn back would have been part of the electrification and reignalling that was cancelled in 2013. Subsequently all point motors were removed and the switches in the running tracks were replaced with plain rail, although the crossing frogs were left in place. This can be verified from aerial imagery online.

The extension of the centre track beyond the points is standard practice to prevent overrunning fouling the running tracks.

[Shuz] wrote: ↑

Mon Dec 21, 2020 3:31 pm

How on earth is Stage 1 costing just under $200m given there's the ARTC line to contend with and Stage 2 is costing 2.5x times that where there's ample room for works? Makes no sense.

PD2/20 wrote: ↑

Mon Dec 21, 2020 6:32 pm

[Shuz] wrote: ↑

Mon Dec 21, 2020 3:31 pm

How on earth is Stage 1 costing just under $200m given there's the ARTC line to contend with and Stage 2 is costing 2.5x times that where there's ample room for works? Makes no sense.

Stage 1 Adelaide - Salisbury services would have been covered by the surplus electric fleet (4-5 units) from the Seaford electrification. About half of Stage 2 cost is the 12 additional units that are required for full service.

Jacob_ULG3 wrote: ↑

Mon Dec 21, 2020 7:12 pm

PD2/20 wrote: ↑

Mon Dec 21, 2020 6:32 pm

[Shuz] wrote: ↑

Mon Dec 21, 2020 3:31 pm

How on earth is Stage 1 costing just under $200m given there's the ARTC line to contend with and Stage 2 is costing 2.5x times that where there's ample room for works? Makes no sense.

Stage 1 Adelaide - Salisbury services would have been covered by the surplus electric fleet (4-5 units) from the Seaford electrification. About half of Stage 2 cost is the 12 additional units that are required for full service.

Im pretty sure in that cost as well is replacing the existing masts to the steel masts.

PD2/20 wrote: ↑

Mon Dec 21, 2020 8:01 pm

Jacob_ULG3 wrote: ↑

Mon Dec 21, 2020 7:12 pm

PD2/20 wrote: ↑

Mon Dec 21, 2020 6:32 pm

Stage 1 Adelaide - Salisbury services would have been covered by the surplus electric fleet (4-5 units) from the Seaford electrification. About half of Stage 2 cost is the 12 additional units that are required for full service.

Im pretty sure in that cost as well is replacing the existing masts to the steel masts.

I'd be surprised if the concrete masts are removed. Several years ago survey plates with track alignment details were attached to each of the concrete masts. This was one of the earliest signs that the electrification project was being restarted.

Spotto wrote: ↑

Wed Dec 23, 2020 9:24 pm

Did the promised third-seat removals on the diesel stock get done? Was announced back in May that COVID had advanced existing plans that would see the work done over June. Haven't been on the diesel lines at all this year so I have no idea.