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[U/C] Re: M2 North-South Motorway

#4771 Post by Spotto » Sun Aug 16, 2020 11:29 am

EBG wrote:
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15/8/2020 sound barrier on the east side of the Pym St pedestrian overpass has a different shape compared to such walls used up till now. This new wall has a ripple pattern. Please click on pictures for bigger.
Doesn't make much sense that they'd introduce another noise wall design; R2P is only 1km and connects the Superway with the T2T. Since the Superway doesn't have noise walls, using the T2T design helps keep an element of flow. I agree with differentiating the larger sections but not for a short connecting section.

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#4772 Post by EBG » Sun Aug 16, 2020 2:31 pm

Some pictures of the now closed off centre section of the original South Rd. This will be slightly realigned and resurfaced to become the new expressway section.
Picture 1 looking south to Torrens Rd, pic 2 looking north to Regency Road ( where the crane is in the back.
The temporary steel supports for the Regency overpass bridge are stored on the east side in picture 2 where the large trees are,
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[U/C] Re: M2 North-South Motorway

#4773 Post by NTRabbit » Mon Aug 17, 2020 11:11 am

Spotto wrote:
Sun Aug 16, 2020 11:29 am
EBG wrote:
Sun Aug 16, 2020 10:14 am
15/8/2020 sound barrier on the east side of the Pym St pedestrian overpass has a different shape compared to such walls used up till now. This new wall has a ripple pattern. Please click on pictures for bigger.
Doesn't make much sense that they'd introduce another noise wall design; R2P is only 1km and connects the Superway with the T2T. Since the Superway doesn't have noise walls, using the T2T design helps keep an element of flow. I agree with differentiating the larger sections but not for a short connecting section.
The Superway has the wavy glass panels with the steel spines though, these new panels feel like they're a transition between those and the T2T concrete panels, so I don't mind it

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#4774 Post by Spotto » Mon Aug 17, 2020 12:32 pm

NTRabbit wrote:
Mon Aug 17, 2020 11:11 am
Spotto wrote:
Sun Aug 16, 2020 11:29 am
EBG wrote:
Sun Aug 16, 2020 10:14 am
15/8/2020 sound barrier on the east side of the Pym St pedestrian overpass has a different shape compared to such walls used up till now. This new wall has a ripple pattern. Please click on pictures for bigger.
Doesn't make much sense that they'd introduce another noise wall design; R2P is only 1km and connects the Superway with the T2T. Since the Superway doesn't have noise walls, using the T2T design helps keep an element of flow. I agree with differentiating the larger sections but not for a short connecting section.
The Superway has the wavy glass panels with the steel spines though, these new panels feel like they're a transition between those and the T2T concrete panels, so I don't mind it
The wavy coloured glass is an anti-throw screen for Grand Junction Road though, not a noise wall.

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[U/C] Re: M2 North-South Motorway

#4775 Post by PD2/20 » Mon Aug 17, 2020 1:59 pm

Spotto wrote:
Sun Aug 16, 2020 11:29 am

Doesn't make much sense that they'd introduce another noise wall design; R2P is only 1km and connects the Superway with the T2T. Since the Superway doesn't have noise walls, using the T2T design helps keep an element of flow. I agree with differentiating the larger sections but not for a short connecting section.
R2P involves a completely different consortium than T2T.

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#4776 Post by ChillyPhilly » Mon Aug 17, 2020 2:01 pm

I don't think noise wall design is a big deal, anyway - once vegetation grows, it won't be noticed.
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#4777 Post by SRW » Mon Aug 17, 2020 2:53 pm

Just so long as they don't repeat the Darlington colour scheme elsewhere...
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#4778 Post by NYG » Mon Aug 17, 2020 3:12 pm

SRW wrote:Just so long as they don't repeat the Darlington colour scheme elsewhere...
And the Superway hot pink and fluoro yellow colour scheme for that matter. What an eyesore.

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#4779 Post by rev » Mon Aug 17, 2020 5:44 pm

NYG wrote:
Mon Aug 17, 2020 3:12 pm
SRW wrote:Just so long as they don't repeat the Darlington colour scheme elsewhere...
And the Superway hot pink and fluoro yellow colour scheme for that matter. What an eyesore.
Those green panels over GJR are horrible lol.

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#4780 Post by bits » Mon Aug 17, 2020 8:02 pm


PD2/20 wrote:
R2P involves a completely different consortium than T2T.
That is what I was thinking.
Large scale moulds are likely not cheap.
You get the walls the builder can make/source.


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[U/C] Re: M2 North-South Motorway

#4781 Post by rogue » Mon Aug 17, 2020 8:24 pm

bits wrote:
Mon Aug 17, 2020 8:02 pm
That is what I was thinking.
Large scale moulds are likely not cheap.
You get the walls the builder can make/source.
Not quite. You get the walls that the designers or engineers specify. Govt or builder procurement don't give a shit about cost of new moulds etc

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[U/C] Re: M2 North-South Motorway

#4782 Post by NTRabbit » Mon Aug 17, 2020 10:23 pm

Spotto wrote:
Mon Aug 17, 2020 12:32 pm
NTRabbit wrote:
Mon Aug 17, 2020 11:11 am
Spotto wrote:
Sun Aug 16, 2020 11:29 am


Doesn't make much sense that they'd introduce another noise wall design; R2P is only 1km and connects the Superway with the T2T. Since the Superway doesn't have noise walls, using the T2T design helps keep an element of flow. I agree with differentiating the larger sections but not for a short connecting section.
The Superway has the wavy glass panels with the steel spines though, these new panels feel like they're a transition between those and the T2T concrete panels, so I don't mind it
The wavy coloured glass is an anti-throw screen for Grand Junction Road though, not a noise wall.
I know it's not a noise wall, but it's still decorative sidings, just like all the noise walls are - if they weren't they'd be plain steel mesh and flat vertical concrete, all unpainted beyond weatherproofing.

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#4783 Post by EBG » Tue Aug 18, 2020 9:05 pm

I think some of the worst coloured noise barriers are some on the Tullamarine Freeway - the ones that are chucky faded yellow - Even in cold weather they look so cheap & nasty.

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#4784 Post by Bacon » Fri Aug 21, 2020 12:44 pm

Updated pics from the R2P Site -
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[U/C] Re: M2 North-South Motorway

#4785 Post by TorrensSA » Fri Aug 21, 2020 1:01 pm

The Harrison Road reserve is really noticeable in the first picture (row of trees on the left side opposite Coopers Brewery), does anybody know the history of why Harrison Road wasn't built (or was it unbuilt) it would have been very useful with the drama that is the closing of Pym Street and bus routes.

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