[COM] Rundle Lantern

[jk1237]

My question is if it can show clear moving images ie like a giant TV. From what Ive read it looks as if its a series of patterns that change. Maybe every 60 seconds a huge Sensational-Adelaide wording appears for a fews secs, or 'Welcome to Adelaide'. Is it capable of doing stuff like that?

[monotonehell]

My question is if it can show clear moving images ie like a giant TV. From what Ive read it looks as if its a series of patterns that change. Maybe every 60 seconds a huge Sensational-Adelaide wording appears for a fews secs, or 'Welcome to Adelaide'. Is it capable of doing stuff like that?

Look up jk1237 your question was asked and answered already.

[skyliner]

I'm loving that the Lantern is being installed, but again I ask:

• What's being created down below to justify and enliven the intersection?

So far all I've seen is the footpath upgrade, the removal of a couple of trees (which is possibly a step backward) and ... nothing else. There's nothing on that intersection - hopefully though the Lantern is a catalyst for further development and pedestrifiaction (if that's a word) of the intersection into somewhere people can congregate and enjoy the spectacle.

I support your implied ideas of action needed at footpath level. The Idea of a ticker (put forward earlier in the thread) would help attract and hold more people at this intersection. Needs for ground level improvements to cater for such people is required. (especially cafes. coffee shops etc). Ideas for the ticker
A. ASX reports.
B. Running commentaries on sports.
C. Key news events.
D. Weather

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[rhino]

Does a ticker require someone to constantly update what is fed, or can it be streamed from a central source for all news tickers?

[Shuz]

Yeah im fairly sure they hook up to a service provider. Please don't let the Advertiser take the reigns...

[Tyler_Durden]

A news ticker sounds very uninspiring and not what Rundle Street needs. What makes the current proposal good is that it is a bit different and fairly unique, which is the way it should be.

[AtD]

Tyler_Durden: Agreed. A news ticker would detract from the artistic element. Those sorts of things belong on the King William Street end of the mall.

[monotonehell]

Tyler_Durden: Agreed. A news ticker would detract from the artistic element. Those sorts of things belong on the King William Street end of the mall.

A news ticker sounds very uninspiring and not what Rundle Street needs. What makes the current proposal good is that it is a bit different and fairly unique, which is the way it should be.

I tend to agree, a ticker is such an early 1990's idea. It's very open to becoming blatant advertising. I don't know how Skyliner jumped from my concerns at street level to putting another element up above. I don't see the connection at all.

My question was concerned with the pedestrian areas, street furniture and facilities like cafes etcetera down on the intersection. As it stands during non-shopping hours the intersection isn't much of anything; it sees the tail end of Rundle Street restaurant/cafe scene, there's not much through foot traffic as it's not really a mid point in any kind of pedestrian routes (occasionally people wander down from Hindley street or back up - but not that many). So it's no Times Square, Broadway & &th intersection.

Initially it will see throngs of people, as the Northern Lights installation saw, but that will taper off as locals become used to its existence. So there might be a lot of people initially, and the Rundle mall traders near the corner may see some worth in extended hours (KFC, McDonald's, Hudson's, maybe even some impulse buy retailers?) if they're allowed the extended hours. After the initial excitement dies off, the corner would need some additional pull. For example a cafe that bathes in the view of the display? Or something that makes use of the space, while adding to the life of the intersection.

[jk1237]

My question is if it can show clear moving images ie like a giant TV. From what Ive read it looks as if its a series of patterns that change. Maybe every 60 seconds a huge Sensational-Adelaide wording appears for a fews secs, or 'Welcome to Adelaide'. Is it capable of doing stuff like that?

Look up jk1237 your question was asked and answered already.

Eeek, I must have been a bit sleepy last night, sorry

I remember hearing once that the ACC were planning a similar outdoor cafe at the eastern end of Rundle Mall, as to Buskers at the King W St end. Its good to see that Buskers is getting busier and busier each week. I think its a good idea as people can eat and drink while watching the light display. I like the design of Buskers too, looks very cosmopolitan at the end of Rundle Mall

[skyliner]

I'm loving that the Lantern is being installed, but again I ask:

• What's being created down below to justify and enliven the intersection?

So far all I've seen is the footpath upgrade, the removal of a couple of trees (which is possibly a step backward) and ... nothing else. There's nothing on that intersection - hopefully though the Lantern is a catalyst for further development and pedestrifiaction (if that's a word) of the intersection into somewhere people can congregate and enjoy the spectacle.

I support your implied ideas of action needed at footpath level. The Idea of a ticker (put forward earlier in the thread) would help attract and hold more people at this intersection. Needs for ground level improvements to cater for such people is required. (especially cafes. coffee shops etc). Ideas for the ticker
A. ASX reports.
B. Running commentaries on sports.
C. Key news events.
D. Weather

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Mono, I used your comments (9/5)to further justify a ticker because
A. As yet, there is less likelihood to get a ticker at all anywhere at present. (I agree that the best place would be KWS/Rundle intersection).
B. Saying that tickers are 1990's and implying not relevant now - hard to follow. Tickers are supposedly about news and easy accessability to such. Nothing dated about that.
C. Tickers would draw an additional crowd to the corner - hence adding to needs of improvement at ground level that you spoke about.
D. I disagree that a ticker would detract from the lantern. Why? People CAN multitask. Keep the ticker on
DIFFERENT things to the lantern (no competition) and you will draw more people. Make the ground area more user friendly with all the above and it will succeed past the novelty stage.
E. The area will remain unique as long as there is nothing like it elswhere.
F. AS for becoming open to blatant advertising, is there a way to control this? I don't know.

Shoked that you did not indicate you could see the connections mate. NO offence.

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[monotonehell]

Shoked that you did not indicate you could see the connections mate. NO offence.

Nothing you said connected my call for street level activities to complement the Lantern above.

Actually "1990's" was a typo, I mean to say that tickers are such a 1920's idea. Back then you had newspapers, radio and that's it. A news ticker was a way for a newspaper to advertise their latest edition's headline outside their building. Modern tickers are used all over the place usually outside TV studios, or stock markets. There's a few in Times Square, but Rundle Convergence is not Times Square in so many ways. The Lantern is a public art installation, not a collection of commercial buildings, advertising billboards and so on all shouting for attention.

Your comment "Keep the ticker on DIFFERENT things to the lantern (no competition) and you will draw more people." suggests that you think that the Lantern is some kind of bill board or giant TV screen? It's not. It's a moving colour and light display. Whacking a ticker along the bottom will detract from the designs in light, as it adds an element in the peripheral.

"Make the ground area more user friendly with all the above and it will succeed past the novelty stage."
This is sort of what I was saying. Once the Lantern loses its initial novelty, there will need to be something down at street level to attract people. After the novelty wears off it will become a pleasing backdrop to whatever activities are installed there (street furniture, cafes or similar). If nothing happens down below to engage people, it will just be the same old intersection with pretty colours at night. Still an improvement over a carpark with nothing, but possibly a lost opportunity.

A ticker is not going to add that much more attraction to the corner - in today's information age, we get news thrown at us from all quarters. People are often more interested in escaping the information age on their nights out. We need to think harder to come up with something that will keep the attention of today's people. At best people might glance at one as they walk past on their way somewhere. People are NOT going to stop and watch a ticker for more than a few seconds, it's also not a very social thing to do if you're out with friends.

"AS for becoming open to blatant advertising, is there a way to control this? I don't know."
There is a way - don't install one.

But seriously, if you really want a ticker to complement the Lantern and add to the Rundle Convergence why not place it over in front of the Centrepoint car park instead of making it a boil on the face of the Lantern?

[AtD]

There's a ticker on the Canberra Centre (the monolithic shopping mall that has decimated street shopping). I would wager that the majority of Canberrans don't know if its existence.

[Tyler_Durden]

Wow, imagine the tourists that would flock in from far and wide to see the stock market updates ticking over.

Sorry.

In this day and age of hand held devices such as mobile phones and palm pilots people do not need to see that kind of information flashing around them in the city. If people want that stuff they can access it in many other places, whether it be with hand held devices using wifi technology or walking into somewhere like the City Cross Arcade and watching the News Channel on one of the TV screens. Speaking of TV screens showing news updates in City Cross, people barely watch them, which to me is a good indication of how little interest people have in that sort of thing when they're out in public. And those are TV screens with moving pictures, much more attractive than words moving across across a screen only.

[AtD]

There's already a (admittedly small) stock ticker on King William Street in the lobby of Commonwealth Bank building. I've never seen anyone actually stop and read it.

[Howie]

sorry this thread disappeared (was moved) accidentally.. it's now back.