[U/C] Re: Port Adelaide Dock Spur Line
Posted: Sun Aug 25, 2024 8:02 am
Final one.
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I would rather have the extent of the former STA rail network which provided services to regional SA, Mount Barker, etc. and shitty stations than the current set up now with a massively reduced network and some bus shelters now.
They could have used that "Jackets" building to form part of a new station building, added a local tourist & information centre inside, cleaned up that junk yard next to it and turned that end bit of Baker Street into a pedestrian plaza.baytram366 wrote: ↑Tue Aug 27, 2024 7:54 amIt could have easily been extended to the street next to the courts building and a proper station building built with perhaps a toilet and cafe integrated into the new building with the courts. At present, its hidden away in the backstreets and would be dark and lonely during the night. Overall, I was very underwhelmed by it. Just my thoughts.
Just a side note, the STA only ran services outside of suburban Adelaide for the first 4 years of its existence, on behalf of the Feds as who owned those lines by that time.
I think it's because they have used "passive security" as a core principle in the design, which minimises blocked lines of sight from as many angles as possible. The idea is that this makes it safer for women at night etc, and it's probably true. Most stations/upgrades on the network from the last 10-15 years have been built this way.baytram366 wrote: ↑Tue Aug 27, 2024 7:54 amRe. the very limited shelter at the new station, this completely failed the test on Sunday with the heavy rain and wind. Two of my friends were waiting there during the afternoon for a train and were completely soaked. The shelter, as we all knew it would, did nothing to protect anyone under it. The mesh walls are useless also and really need to be replaced with glass. I also noticed that there is no cover leading from the station to any parts of the bus interchange which also only has one shelter. Why?
That steel box at the front of the platform also serves no purpose and I wonder how long the murals will remain undamaged along with the information touch screens. I am hoping that the station overall will be cared for by the government and any damage fixed quickly But overall, it looks and feels cheap especially for a terminus. It could have easily been extended to the street next to the courts building and a proper station building built with perhaps a toilet and cafe integrated into the new building with the courts. At present, its hidden away in the backstreets and would be dark and lonely during the night. Overall, I was very underwhelmed by it. Just my thoughts.
Shelter issue could be partly fixed by roofing and partial screening of the large arbor which has plenty of seating and is a few seconds walk from the platform.muzzamo wrote: ↑Wed Aug 28, 2024 11:49 amI think it's because they have used "passive security" as a core principle in the design, which minimises blocked lines of sight from as many angles as possible. The idea is that this makes it safer for women at night etc, and it's probably true. Most stations/upgrades on the network from the last 10-15 years have been built this way.baytram366 wrote: ↑Tue Aug 27, 2024 7:54 amRe. the very limited shelter at the new station, this completely failed the test on Sunday with the heavy rain and wind. Two of my friends were waiting there during the afternoon for a train and were completely soaked. The shelter, as we all knew it would, did nothing to protect anyone under it. The mesh walls are useless also and really need to be replaced with glass. I also noticed that there is no cover leading from the station to any parts of the bus interchange which also only has one shelter. Why?
That steel box at the front of the platform also serves no purpose and I wonder how long the murals will remain undamaged along with the information touch screens. I am hoping that the station overall will be cared for by the government and any damage fixed quickly But overall, it looks and feels cheap especially for a terminus. It could have easily been extended to the street next to the courts building and a proper station building built with perhaps a toilet and cafe integrated into the new building with the courts. At present, its hidden away in the backstreets and would be dark and lonely during the night. Overall, I was very underwhelmed by it. Just my thoughts.
Like so many things in government though, because they have prioritised this one of the core functions of the design ie keeping people actually dry has been lost.
Another way to improve security would be more frequent services which leads to safety in numbers.muzzamo wrote: ↑Wed Aug 28, 2024 11:49 amI think it's because they have used "passive security" as a core principle in the design, which minimises blocked lines of sight from as many angles as possible. The idea is that this makes it safer for women at night etc, and it's probably true. Most stations/upgrades on the network from the last 10-15 years have been built this way.baytram366 wrote: ↑Tue Aug 27, 2024 7:54 amRe. the very limited shelter at the new station, this completely failed the test on Sunday with the heavy rain and wind. Two of my friends were waiting there during the afternoon for a train and were completely soaked. The shelter, as we all knew it would, did nothing to protect anyone under it. The mesh walls are useless also and really need to be replaced with glass. I also noticed that there is no cover leading from the station to any parts of the bus interchange which also only has one shelter. Why?
That steel box at the front of the platform also serves no purpose and I wonder how long the murals will remain undamaged along with the information touch screens. I am hoping that the station overall will be cared for by the government and any damage fixed quickly But overall, it looks and feels cheap especially for a terminus. It could have easily been extended to the street next to the courts building and a proper station building built with perhaps a toilet and cafe integrated into the new building with the courts. At present, its hidden away in the backstreets and would be dark and lonely during the night. Overall, I was very underwhelmed by it. Just my thoughts.
Like so many things in government though, because they have prioritised this one of the core functions of the design ie keeping people actually dry has been lost.
From those photos, the Adelaide platform is east of the Dry Creek platform. Does anyone know why they did that? It would mean the trains would cross one another because Dry Creek is in the east.
Was curious about this too and I stumbled on the work of modeller Gavin Thrum. Based on his research, all platform tracks converged onto one track they exited the station and weaved through the old yards and sidings. So technically it wouldn’t really matter which platform served which destination.1NEEDS2POST wrote: ↑Wed Aug 28, 2024 8:24 pmFrom those photos, the Adelaide platform is east of the Dry Creek platform. Does anyone know why they did that? It would mean the trains would cross one another because Dry Creek is in the east.