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Posted: Thu Nov 30, 2017 9:25 pm
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Hundreds more O-Bahn buses to hit "deteriorating" Grenfell St
Hundreds more 18-tonne buses will contribute to the deterioration of Grenfell Street when the newly redeveloped O-Bahn opens this weekend. Photo: Tony Lewis / InDaily
A redeveloped O-Bahn will start sending hundreds of extra buses down an unimproved Grenfell Street from next week, despite years of warnings over the city corridor's dilapidated, “rapidly deteriorating” condition.
The State Government is rejecting any responsibility for upgrading Grenfell Street, which, infrastructure experts have consistently argued over the past several years, is in need of a major overhaul.
Grenfell Street, owned and maintained by the Adelaide City Council, is set to carry hundreds more buses – the daily total rising to about 2600 buses, each weighing about 18 tonnes – east-west across the CBD following the opening of the O-Bahn tunnel.
Transport Minister Stephen Mullighan told InDaily: “Grenfell Street is under the care and control of the City of Adelaide, which is responsible for its maintenance and any upgrades.”
But the council has long argued that the Government’s buses are doing the damage and that it should contribute significant funding to a major rebuild of the road.
Council director of operations Beth Davidson-Park said the council was in high-level discussions with the Government about a potential redevelopment of Grenfell and Currie streets and that she was “optimistic” about the prospects of a funding partnership.
Full article : https://indaily.com.au/news/local/2017/ ... enfell-st/
Is there a noticible difference in the level of road noise generated by buses on concrete roads compared to the familiar (in South Australia) asphalt? The new Northern Connector will be concrete and carry lots of heavy vehicles, but well away from many people.Patrick_27 wrote: ↑Sat Dec 09, 2017 12:18 amHaving spent the last week in Sydney, I've noticed that a lot of roads that carry masses of buses are concrete, even if only the bus lane. I think this would be a wise choice for Grenfell/Currie, would certainly see the road surface lasting longer.
Well if the Adelaide City Council didn't waste money on changing the Frome Street bike lane. North Terrace has lots of buses , Currie/Grenfell Street has lots of buses, Pirie Street/Waymouth Road could be used for east west buses but you'll have to still get back onto West Terrace or Currie Street, also council will most likely complain about buses roaring pass there Town Hall when they have meetings. Only other east west corridors I would suggest sending buses down is Flinders Street, Franklin Street or Wakefield Street, Grote Street.PeFe wrote: ↑Fri Dec 08, 2017 2:39 pmArticle from In Daily discussing the declining state of the surface roads along Grenfell/Currie Streets, especially as more O-Bahn will be using the corridor from December 17.
Hundreds more O-Bahn buses to hit "deteriorating" Grenfell St
Hundreds more 18-tonne buses will contribute to the deterioration of Grenfell Street when the newly redeveloped O-Bahn opens this weekend. Photo: Tony Lewis / InDaily
A redeveloped O-Bahn will start sending hundreds of extra buses down an unimproved Grenfell Street from next week, despite years of warnings over the city corridor's dilapidated, “rapidly deteriorating” condition.
The State Government is rejecting any responsibility for upgrading Grenfell Street, which, infrastructure experts have consistently argued over the past several years, is in need of a major overhaul.
Grenfell Street, owned and maintained by the Adelaide City Council, is set to carry hundreds more buses – the daily total rising to about 2600 buses, each weighing about 18 tonnes – east-west across the CBD following the opening of the O-Bahn tunnel.
Transport Minister Stephen Mullighan told InDaily: “Grenfell Street is under the care and control of the City of Adelaide, which is responsible for its maintenance and any upgrades.”
But the council has long argued that the Government’s buses are doing the damage and that it should contribute significant funding to a major rebuild of the road.
Council director of operations Beth Davidson-Park said the council was in high-level discussions with the Government about a potential redevelopment of Grenfell and Currie streets and that she was “optimistic” about the prospects of a funding partnership.
Full article : https://indaily.com.au/news/local/2017/ ... enfell-st/
Yet another example of transport planners not getting the basics right, along with those time-regulated bus lanes.PeFe wrote: ↑Fri Dec 08, 2017 2:39 pmArticle from In Daily discussing the declining state of the surface roads along Grenfell/Currie Streets, especially as more O-Bahn will be using the corridor from December 17.
Hundreds more O-Bahn buses to hit "deteriorating" Grenfell St
Hundreds more 18-tonne buses will contribute to the deterioration of Grenfell Street when the newly redeveloped O-Bahn opens this weekend. Photo: Tony Lewis / InDaily
A redeveloped O-Bahn will start sending hundreds of extra buses down an unimproved Grenfell Street from next week, despite years of warnings over the city corridor's dilapidated, “rapidly deteriorating” condition.
The State Government is rejecting any responsibility for upgrading Grenfell Street, which, infrastructure experts have consistently argued over the past several years, is in need of a major overhaul.
Grenfell Street, owned and maintained by the Adelaide City Council, is set to carry hundreds more buses – the daily total rising to about 2600 buses, each weighing about 18 tonnes – east-west across the CBD following the opening of the O-Bahn tunnel.
Transport Minister Stephen Mullighan told InDaily: “Grenfell Street is under the care and control of the City of Adelaide, which is responsible for its maintenance and any upgrades.”
But the council has long argued that the Government’s buses are doing the damage and that it should contribute significant funding to a major rebuild of the road.
Council director of operations Beth Davidson-Park said the council was in high-level discussions with the Government about a potential redevelopment of Grenfell and Currie streets and that she was “optimistic” about the prospects of a funding partnership.
Full article : https://indaily.com.au/news/local/2017/ ... enfell-st/
Pirie and Waymouth Streets are way too narrow for the amount of buses that go east-west. You also wouldn't be able to continue straight onto Henley Beach Road.Eurostar wrote: ↑Sat Dec 09, 2017 8:03 amWell if the Adelaide City Council didn't waste money on changing the Frome Street bike lane. North Terrace has lots of buses , Currie/Grenfell Street has lots of buses, Pirie Street/Waymouth Road could be used for east west buses but you'll have to still get back onto West Terrace or Currie Street, also council will most likely complain about buses roaring pass there Town Hall when they have meetings. Only other east west corridors I would suggest sending buses down is Flinders Street, Franklin Street or Wakefield Street, Grote Street.
It's a new system they are introducing. It follows the lines of the bus contract areas.PeFe wrote: ↑Sat Dec 09, 2017 3:49 pmFirst time I have seen this map of the Adelaide metropolitan area with all the bus routes colour coded
As well as concept for new O-Bahn bus tops in the north eastern area
https://www.adelaidemetro.com.au/Announ ... ecember%20
This truly means the former Transit Link bus stop signs will be replaced.Norman wrote: ↑Sat Dec 09, 2017 4:07 pmPirie and Waymouth Streets are way too narrow for the amount of buses that go east-west. You also wouldn't be able to continue straight onto Henley Beach Road.Eurostar wrote: ↑Sat Dec 09, 2017 8:03 amWell if the Adelaide City Council didn't waste money on changing the Frome Street bike lane. North Terrace has lots of buses , Currie/Grenfell Street has lots of buses, Pirie Street/Waymouth Road could be used for east west buses but you'll have to still get back onto West Terrace or Currie Street, also council will most likely complain about buses roaring pass there Town Hall when they have meetings. Only other east west corridors I would suggest sending buses down is Flinders Street, Franklin Street or Wakefield Street, Grote Street.
It's a new system they are introducing. It follows the lines of the bus contract areas.PeFe wrote: ↑Sat Dec 09, 2017 3:49 pmFirst time I have seen this map of the Adelaide metropolitan area with all the bus routes colour coded
As well as concept for new O-Bahn bus tops in the north eastern area
https://www.adelaidemetro.com.au/Announ ... ecember%20