Sensational-Adelaide.com

Spotto wrote: ↑

Wed Jan 22, 2025 9:53 am

rubberman wrote: ↑

Wed Jan 22, 2025 9:42 am

The other problem with centre platforms is that you cannot run buses as well as trams in the same corridor, as is done elsewhere.

I’ll be honest I’ve never heard of a bus-only lane shared with trams, what places have done this?

rubberman wrote: ↑

Wed Jan 22, 2025 10:01 am

Spotto wrote: ↑

Wed Jan 22, 2025 9:53 am

rubberman wrote: ↑

Wed Jan 22, 2025 9:42 am

The other problem with centre platforms is that you cannot run buses as well as trams in the same corridor, as is done elsewhere.

I’ll be honest I’ve never heard of a bus-only lane shared with trams, what places have done this?

I've seen it in several places in Germany, Poland and the Czech republic.

Given that trams have evolved as vehicles running in completely mixed street traffic: buses, cars, trucks and trams, it's actually a safer version of what happens in every city where trams and normal traffic mix. Melbourne is an example of completely mixed traffic in places. So, a version of what happens in Melbourne, for example, but with buses only, excluding cars and commercial vehicles, is a pretty uncontroversial proposal. The only question, really, is how many buses you can run between trams before that slows the trams down.

Other than the possibility of crowding the schedule and slowing trams down, what would be the problem with having buses and trams in the same lane? It's far better than buses, trams, cars, trucks in the same lane, and nobody raises an eyebrow at that.

Edit: At the moment, Jetty Road has cars, trucks, buses and trams allowed on the tram track. Imagine if cars and trucks were banned (of course, they won't be) as a thought experiment. In that case, it would substantially improve tram and bus travel along Jetty Road. From a public transport and safety perspective, it would be a big improvement. Politically, and from the legitimate point of view of car drivers, it won't happen. But technically, it would be quite feasible, improving safety and travel time.

claybro wrote: ↑

Thu Jan 23, 2025 11:58 pm

The examples you mention in Europe, also have the European benefit of all entry points on busses, where people can enter via all doors. It really speeds up the standing time at each stop meaning less delays for all modes. This should at lest be trialled on Obahn, and make exits at the interchanges via ticketed gates.

ChillyPhilly wrote: ↑

Fri Jan 24, 2025 9:41 am

To run buses down the Port Road tram corridor, the centre island stops will need to be rebuilt.

PD2/20 wrote: ↑

Fri Jan 24, 2025 8:05 am

claybro wrote: ↑

Thu Jan 23, 2025 11:58 pm

The examples you mention in Europe, also have the European benefit of all entry points on busses, where people can enter via all doors. It really speeds up the standing time at each stop meaning less delays for all modes. This should at lest be trialled on Obahn, and make exits at the interchanges via ticketed gates.

All entry boarding with ticket validators at each door was implemented on the O-Bahn a number of years ago.

abc wrote: ↑

Fri Jan 24, 2025 7:21 pm

why would you even bother when there's a train that follows the same route?

NTRabbit wrote: ↑

Sun Feb 02, 2025 3:31 pm

I'm wondering if (more hoping) the government has been holding off on tram network expansion plans until the network is returned to public hands? Made it easier to get back, and they can announce big plans for the network owned by the people of SA heading into the next election.

rubberman wrote: ↑

Sun Feb 02, 2025 4:00 pm

NTRabbit wrote: ↑

Sun Feb 02, 2025 3:31 pm

I'm wondering if (more hoping) the government has been holding off on tram network expansion plans until the network is returned to public hands? Made it easier to get back, and they can announce big plans for the network owned by the people of SA heading into the next election.

From a political perspective, it would depend on the polls closer to the election.

The Government is likely to have lost quite a few votes in the seat of Adelaide because of the unnecessary takeover of the Parklands for the hospital. So, if that's significant, they might like to put up a tram extension like the City Loop to head that off.

However, if the polls show that the Government is well ahead, it may decide to hold off on trams to keep as a strategy for a later election.

There's certainly no sign of interest in trams otherwise. In fact, given the comments from the Treasurer a few months back, I'd say that hopes for further trams are quite misplaced.

rev wrote:I don't think this has been shared before, someone posted it on Reddit.
https://www.walkingsa.org.au/wp-content ... etwork.pdf
https://www.reddit.com/r/Adelaide/comme ... work_plan/

rubberman wrote: ↑

Sun Feb 02, 2025 4:00 pm

The Government is likely to have lost quite a few votes in the seat of Adelaide because of the unnecessary takeover of the Parklands for the hospital. So, if that's significant, they might like to put up a tram extension like the City Loop to head that off.