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Patrick_27 wrote: ↑

Sun Feb 02, 2025 7:44 pm

Trams seem to be a topic of debate everywhere in this country, Gold Coast are currently debating the issue of how to proceed with rapid transit from their city to the airport after iits tram extension from Burleigh Heads to the Airport was removed from Infrastructure Australia's priority list.

Either way, IF we are to proceed with expanding our tram network here, it needs to be done properly. I cannot for the life of me understand how in Sydney, Gold Coast and Newcastle they can build these beautifully designed tramlines whereby every detail has ben considered down to cobble stone between the tracks and station platforms decked out with the highest quality materials and ammenities. Meanwhile in Adelaide, the Botanic Garden extension, was built with what appears to be quick set cement that began cracking within the first few months of it having been poured; the light poles they initially anchored the cabling to couldn't withstand the necessary tension to hold the wires and bent then needing to be replaced, the minimal station plantings have in sections been left to die; and in the case of the cultural precinct stop, they named it 'Art Gallery' then received backlash from the Museum and Library so they STUCK 'Museum' and 'Library' STICKERS over the top of some of the 'Art Gallery' signage. All this, and we're running a fleet that's made up of almost 20-year-old trams and second-hand trams from Madrid. You can't make this stuff up!

Patrick_27 wrote: ↑

Sun Feb 02, 2025 7:44 pm

Trams seem to be a topic of debate everywhere in this country, Gold Coast are currently debating the issue of how to proceed with rapid transit from their city to the airport after iits tram extension from Burleigh Heads to the Airport was removed from Infrastructure Australia's priority list.

Either way, IF we are to proceed with expanding our tram network here, it needs to be done properly. I cannot for the life of me understand how in Sydney, Gold Coast and Newcastle they can build these beautifully designed tramlines whereby every detail has ben considered down to cobble stone between the tracks and station platforms decked out with the highest quality materials and ammenities. Meanwhile in Adelaide, the Botanic Garden extension, was built with what appears to be quick set cement that began cracking within the first few months of it having been poured; the light poles they initially anchored the cabling to couldn't withstand the necessary tension to hold the wires and bent then needing to be replaced, the minimal station plantings have in sections been left to die; and in the case of the cultural precinct stop, they named it 'Art Gallery' then received backlash from the Museum and Library so they STUCK 'Museum' and 'Library' STICKERS over the top of some of the 'Art Gallery' signage. All this, and we're running a fleet that's made up of almost 20-year-old trams and second-hand trams from Madrid. You can't make this stuff up!

rubberman wrote: ↑

Sun Feb 02, 2025 10:35 pm

Sydney is doing it at an extortionate cost, with everything overengineered. The time taken to put trams down George Street was measured in years, where Melbourne does the same distance in weeks. Then, the trams dawdle. Even though trams are mostly on their own right of way, they are slower than in the 1930s.

Spotto wrote:

rubberman wrote: ↑

Sun Feb 02, 2025 10:35 pm

Sydney is doing it at an extortionate cost, with everything overengineered. The time taken to put trams down George Street was measured in years, where Melbourne does the same distance in weeks. Then, the trams dawdle. Even though trams are mostly on their own right of way, they are slower than in the 1930s.

Wouldn’t part of the long timeline for George Street be down to the fact that they were also converting a car thoroughfare to a pedestrian zone, and installing ground-level power supply instead of overhead wires?

Spotto wrote: ↑

Sun Feb 02, 2025 11:44 pm

rubberman wrote: ↑

Sun Feb 02, 2025 10:35 pm

Sydney is doing it at an extortionate cost, with everything overengineered. The time taken to put trams down George Street was measured in years, where Melbourne does the same distance in weeks. Then, the trams dawdle. Even though trams are mostly on their own right of way, they are slower than in the 1930s.

Wouldn’t part of the long timeline for George Street be down to the fact that they were also converting a car thoroughfare to a pedestrian zone, and installing ground-level power supply instead of overhead wires?

[Shuz] wrote: ↑

Thu Feb 06, 2025 3:01 pm

Watched the video - that was agonisingly slow and very over engineered.

Spotto wrote: ↑

Sun Mar 02, 2025 11:24 pm

With the recently announced North Adelaide Golf Course Upgrade transforming it into another venue to host temporary events like LIV Golf, the tram extension to North Adelaide will be even more critical!

Even a single track branch from O’Connell Street along Ward Street stopping outside the course could be a consideration? The road is already wide enough from its former tram days.

Nort wrote: ↑

Mon Mar 03, 2025 7:56 pm

Tram heading down O'Connell and Prospect Road would be great because of the development it supports, but seems hard to justify Ward Street just for the golf course.