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[APP] Re: Masonic Lodge | 183m | 37 Levels | Mixed Use
Posted: Wed Jan 17, 2024 10:09 am
by rev
Ben wrote: ↑Tue Jan 16, 2024 6:20 pm
rev wrote: ↑Tue Jan 16, 2024 5:12 pm
Typical Adelaide fuckhead mentality. Sorry for the blunt vulgar words, but it's true.
People wonder why the young continue to flee Adelaide for the east coast? Fuck head "critics" in that article play a big part in why this city is so fucking backwards still, so slow in every god damn aspect.
You don't like tall buildings? Go live in the country side you dumb bastards. It's 2024 and these cockroaches are still pissing out the same tired arguments.
If anything, out of all the proposals for 'towers' on North Terrace, this one is far superior to the rest.
May they not only build this, but propose and build 100 more, just so we can see if the heads of these typical Adelaide fuckheads will explode.
It’s called clickbait and to generate controversy and get people talking about their shitty website. In this case it worked.
I didn't open the article, or read it on their site, so no, didn't work.
My remarks aren't so much about the article, its content, but about the prevailing mentality in this city. Outside of this forum, the mentality is vastly different. The media in this city plays a big role in that. This article is an example of that. You dismiss it as click bait, the reality though is articles like that reinforce that negative Adelaide mentality.
[APP] Re: Masonic Lodge | 183m | 37 Levels | Mixed Use
Posted: Wed Jan 17, 2024 2:27 pm
by ChillyPhilly
I made a very quick and rudimentary mockup of what this could look like with Realm and Adelaidean as context.
[APP] Re: Masonic Lodge | 183m | 37 Levels | Mixed Use
Posted: Wed Jan 17, 2024 4:17 pm
by rev
ChillyPhilly wrote: ↑Wed Jan 17, 2024 2:27 pm
I made a very quick and rudimentary mockup of what this could look like with Realm and Adelaidean as context.
I think this is one that will depend from which angle it's viewed from as to how much of an impact and how much it stands out.
Hoping the glass is somewhere between Realm and Adelaidean, not as dark as seen in that photo, with a more metallic-esque look to it.
[APP] Re: Masonic Lodge | 183m | 37 Levels | Mixed Use
Posted: Wed Jan 17, 2024 10:23 pm
by MicBara
Hey team.
Here are few city shots from Flight Simulator 3.0
[APP] Re: Masonic Lodge | 183m | 37 Levels | Mixed Use
Posted: Wed Jan 17, 2024 10:49 pm
by MicBara
As for Miss Debbie Williams and the Advertiser article.
We were bowled over by the positive comments on facebook / Tiser and the website.
People are of course able to put feedback in but we went through two full pre-lodgement meetings to work through design issues.
I'm not going to repeat anything from those meetings because they were confidential but it was positive.
The majority of comments on that facebook page ("Help save South Australia's history from demolition") are positive (they were not to begin with but I've been a member of that page for years).
We put on massive and unprecedented briefing session specifically for the wannabe heritage/history community and the invite went to more than 8,000 people - LESS THAN 4 showed up and one even wrote to us after attending and said she was all for it.
[APP] Re: Masonic Lodge | 183m | 37 Levels | Mixed Use
Posted: Wed Jan 17, 2024 11:16 pm
by MicBara
Now on to the more important stuff: we just got back from taking the architects and the directors on a study tour of London and Edinburgh.
We visited:
Hotels:
1) The Savoy Hotel
2) The W London (Marriott)
3) The Westin London (Marriott)
4) The Londoner
5) The Edition Hotel
6) The Adelphi
and stuck our head in a few others quickly.
Observation Decks:
The Shard
Sky Garden
Twenty Two Tower
The Gherkin
Museums
The national gallery
The British museum
and a stack of retail and heritage buildings that were good examples of adaptive reuse.
If we can come close to the Skygarden I will be very happy. It's the same height as our building but much larger at the top. We can easily fit in what they have there though - 80 seat restaurant (which I'm not sold on yet) and a garden.
I LOVED the garden.
We also had a tour of a recently completed but not yet opened skyscraper thanks to our engineers, several meetings with UK heritage specialists and of course the Freemasons (including a visit to the Rosslyn Chapel which first opened in 1446 and is very closely connected to the creation of modern Freemasonry.
Here's the sky garden
Here's the Westin London
And here's an example of retail in the Savoy Hotel (note that the flooring is similar to the "hall of fame" in the current Freemasons building)
[APP] Re: Masonic Lodge | 183m | 37 Levels | Mixed Use
Posted: Thu Jan 18, 2024 4:06 am
by Mpol02
Slay
[APP] Re: Masonic Lodge | 183m | 37 Levels | Mixed Use
Posted: Thu Jan 18, 2024 4:09 am
by Mpol02
Slay
Get this built already.
[APP] Re: Masonic Lodge | 183m | 37 Levels | Mixed Use
Posted: Thu Jan 18, 2024 10:36 am
by Benm16
MicBara wrote: ↑Wed Jan 17, 2024 11:16 pm
Now on to the more important stuff: we just got back from taking the architects and the directors on a study tour of London and Edinburgh.
We visited:
Hotels:
1) The Savoy Hotel
2) The W London (Marriott)
3) The Westin London (Marriott)
4) The Londoner
5) The Edition Hotel
6) The Adelphi
and stuck our head in a few others quickly.
Observation Decks:
The Shard
Sky Garden
Twenty Two Tower
The Gherkin
Museums
The national gallery
The British museum
and a stack of retail and heritage buildings that were good examples of adaptive reuse.
If we can come close to the Skygarden I will be very happy. It's the same height as our building but much larger at the top. We can easily fit in what they have there though - 80 seat restaurant (which I'm not sold on yet) and a garden.
I LOVED the garden.
We also had a tour of a recently completed but not yet opened skyscraper thanks to our engineers, several meetings with UK heritage specialists and of course the Freemasons (including a visit to the Rosslyn Chapel which first opened in 1446 and is very closely connected to the creation of modern Freemasonry.
Here's the sky garden WhatsApp Image 2024-01-17 at 23.29.00_a3751de1.jpg
Here's the Westin London WhatsApp Image 2024-01-17 at 23.29.50_cdbada2b.jpg
And here's an example of retail in the Savoy Hotel (note that the flooring is similar to the "hall of fame" in the current Freemasons building) WhatsApp Image 2024-01-17 at 23.30.50_6ef11c92.jpg
So glad you ended up visiting the sky garden and enjoyed it. It's honestly the most impressive observation deck. If you guys did something of a similar standard then that would be fantastic! Keep up the great work
[APP] Re: Masonic Lodge | 183m | 37 Levels | Mixed Use
Posted: Thu Jan 18, 2024 11:07 am
by A-Town
That sky garden looks incredible. I agree MicBara that a restaurant may not be suited to the observation deck. A bar, similar to what we have at 2KW, Sol, Mayfair etc could work though.
[APP] Re: Masonic Lodge | 183m | 37 Levels | Mixed Use
Posted: Thu Jan 18, 2024 5:23 pm
by Neko Neko Peko Peko
Something like Skygarden would certainly make Adelaide's iteration of an observation deck stand out from what's available across Australia!
[APP] Re: Masonic Lodge | 183m | 37 Levels | Mixed Use
Posted: Thu Jan 18, 2024 6:36 pm
by likeperu
[APP] [PRO] Re: Masonic Lodge | 183m | 37 Levels | Mixed Use
Posted: Thu Jan 18, 2024 10:51 pm
by ChillyPhilly
Absolutely brilliant MicBara. It's been fascinating for us to quintessentially go along for a lot of this ride with you.
I concur, Sky Garden looks incredible. There are few other examples like it in Australia, so it's a great opportunity. It would be an outstanding location for a bar.
[APP] Re: Masonic Lodge | 183m | 37 Levels | Mixed Use
Posted: Fri Jan 19, 2024 8:37 am
by Pikey
Just a quick question MicBara if I may. On the massing renders shown below it appears the southern services core is clad in a non reflective material where as the min visuals show that southern facade with a uniform reflective result. Which outcome should we expect? Fingers crossed the full reflective option!
[APP] Re: [PRO] Re: Masonic Lodge | 183m | 37 Levels | Mixed Use
Posted: Fri Jan 19, 2024 9:05 am
by Nort
ChillyPhilly wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2024 10:51 pm
Absolutely brilliant MicBara. It's been fascinating for us to quintessentially go along for a lot of this ride with you.
I concur, Sky Garden looks incredible. There are few other examples like it in Australia, so it's a great opportunity.
It would be an outstanding location for a bar.
Absolutely. Whenever we have interstate/overseas visitors we tend to end up at either 2KW or the Mayfair rooftop because they are great places to have a drink and take in the views.
