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#541 Post by Pikey » Fri Mar 09, 2018 4:48 pm

The suggestions that another developer would move their tower for the sake of views of another is laughable. Views in and CBD (any area to be honest) are a privilege not a right. If the developer was ultra keen on protecting that view, they would have to have purchased every adjacent plot in the block. Who is not to say that the site to the south won't be sold for another 30 level tower, or directly opposite them blocking out eastern views.

Unfortunately, it's called due diligence. If prospective buyers purchased northern facing apartments without understanding the impacts of CBD living, well, lesson learned.
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#542 Post by Algernon » Fri Mar 09, 2018 5:19 pm

Plasmatron wrote:
Fri Mar 09, 2018 4:01 pm
Surely they could find another place to build the new student accomodation tower?

It doesn't need to be directly next to the Adelaidian (yet still somewhere in the same area).
Think you'll find the development quite specifically has to be on land that you own.

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#543 Post by Patrick_27 » Fri Mar 09, 2018 7:16 pm

The crane alone will be an issue...

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#544 Post by Pikey » Fri Mar 09, 2018 7:35 pm

Patrick_27 wrote:
Fri Mar 09, 2018 7:16 pm
The crane alone will be an issue...
Bullocks.

Have a look at the northern cluster in the CBD of Melbourne, and how may 50+ level towers have gone up in similar, or in some cases closer proximity than these two...
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#545 Post by EBG » Fri Mar 09, 2018 11:03 pm

Who has the right to a view? Paramatta, Woli Creek, Barangaroo
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#546 Post by EBG » Fri Mar 09, 2018 11:05 pm

who has the right to a view.north Sydney.
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#547 Post by Ser Noit of Loit » Sat Mar 10, 2018 1:41 am

The Bangaroo picture is a bit misleading. The towers going up were (they've since been completed) two of multiple planned towers as part of a massive redevelopment of the area, so it isn't like the smaller one is from a different developer pouncing on a site and "stealing views" from the one in the background.

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#548 Post by HiTouch » Sat Mar 10, 2018 10:23 am

This is Adelaide, not Melbourne or Parramatta. Bring picturesque is our selling point.
Everyone has a right to a view.

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#549 Post by Goodsy » Sat Mar 10, 2018 10:58 am

HiTouch wrote:
Sat Mar 10, 2018 10:23 am
This is Adelaide, not Melbourne or Parramatta. Bring picturesque is our selling point.
Everyone has a right to a view.
I guess we're back to being a boring old country town again

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#550 Post by Nort » Sat Mar 10, 2018 11:25 am

HiTouch wrote:
Sat Mar 10, 2018 10:23 am
This is Adelaide, not Melbourne or Parramatta. Bring picturesque is our selling point.
Everyone has a right to a view.
Really?

What about some of the views from the student tower currently under construction that the Adelaidean will block?

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#551 Post by Pikey » Sat Mar 10, 2018 12:45 pm

HiTouch wrote:
Sat Mar 10, 2018 10:23 am
This is Adelaide, not Melbourne or Parramatta. Bring picturesque is our selling point.
Everyone has a right to a view.
There are plenty of foothills suburbs that can fill that requirement...
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#552 Post by [Shuz] » Sat Mar 10, 2018 1:51 pm

Nobody has a "right" to a view.

People have rights to clean water, food, sanitation, education and a roof over their head, but not a view.
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#553 Post by EBG » Sat Mar 10, 2018 7:59 pm

I agree with Shuz - nobody has a right to a view.
Ps I admit the Barangaroo picture is old. There were 3 towers roughly 28,35 & 45 stories then an international hotel of about 50 stories was planed as well.

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#554 Post by floplo » Sat Mar 10, 2018 9:47 pm

Actually there are more apartments impacted by the new North Terrace Urbanest building, as it sits in the north facing view of Realm, than will be impacted in the Adelaidean. The difference is that the lower 2/3 of the Adelaidean tower are hotel and serviced apartments, only the top third contains regular apartments and half of these are above the top of the proposed student housing tower anyway...

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#555 Post by Algernon » Sun Mar 11, 2018 1:14 am

floplo wrote:
Sat Mar 10, 2018 9:47 pm
Actually there are more apartments impacted by the new North Terrace Urbanest building, as it sits in the north facing view of Realm, than will be impacted in the Adelaidean. The difference is that the lower 2/3 of the Adelaidean tower are hotel and serviced apartments, only the top third contains regular apartments and half of these are above the top of the proposed student housing tower anyway...
The 80 apartments are in the top third portion. Assuming equal distribution of apartments around the 4 sides of the tower, that makes for 20 facing north. The penthouse apartments will take up a portion of the 17m clearance Adeladean has over the neighbouring tower. I'd say about 15 apartments will have their view partially built out. Partially; they still have an enviable clearance between their building and the neighbouring tower by East coast standards and uninterrupted NE and NW views.

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