ONH: [Port Adelaide] Newport Quays | $1.2b

[Wayno]

Also, I've dug up this photo of the western face of Stage 2 from September 2008:

i hope the developer will be placing a row of significant trees/shrubs alongside the retaining wall. The whole area is remarkably short of greenery...

[AtD]

i hope the developer will be placing a row of significant trees/shrubs alongside the retaining wall. The whole area is remarkably short of greenery...

I doubt it. That's railway land. (It'd probably have to be removed when overhead wires are installed anyway)

[Wayno]

i hope the developer will be placing a row of significant trees/shrubs alongside the retaining wall. The whole area is remarkably short of greenery...

I doubt it. That's railway land. (It'd probably have to be removed when overhead wires are installed anyway)

oops, i actually mean on the high side of the retaining wall, adjacent to the roadway...

[Cruise]

Well they'll be holding on to them for a long time then !
How about the full page add from Urban Construct in the paper today
for their apartments. I think they are struggling to move them at
the moment.

No they were told "property only ever goes up", "nothing is safer than bricks and mortar" etc.

Unfortunately there were no greater fools that they could onsell the apartments onto

I must ask, do you own property?

[rev]

http://www.photoadelaide.com/newgal/mai ... alNumber=2

I don't mind that at all. Doesn't look like it's something you'd find in Adelaide.
Only gripe is I'd rather see 4 or 5 stories instead of 3.

[jk1237]

i hope the developer will be placing a row of significant trees/shrubs alongside the retaining wall. The whole area is remarkably short of greenery...

I doubt it. That's railway land. (It'd probably have to be removed when overhead wires are installed anyway)

oops, i actually mean on the high side of the retaining wall, adjacent to the roadway...

All fixed. There are now some young trees planted along there, caus I parked my car right there (near where that silver 4WD ute is under the crane base) and the little trees were shading my car.

However Glanville Station is a disgrace with just having a tiny little bus shelter for whats meant to be a mini interchange. I remember about 5+ years ago it was going to be revamped. They must have forgotten about it.

[Prince George]

http://www.photoadelaide.com/newgal/mai ... alNumber=2
I don't mind that at all. Doesn't look like it's something you'd find in Adelaide.

Really? My impression was that it was quite typical of a number of places around Adelaide, for example several spots by the water at Mawson Lakes - like this one at Peninsula and Grandview.

JK1237, I'll try to be less negative, I really will, until I've seen it in person. It's just that, even if I haven't seen this specific site yet, I feel like I've already seen it's clones. Having lived down there for a few years, I am very fond of it and I really want the outcome to be more "ooh ahh" and less Delfin.

I was going to suggest that there still could be some connection, even if pedestrian only, between Causeway road and the central axis of the marina, perhaps using the empty land by the end of Sutherland St in some way as a staging point, but that embankment and retaining wall throws cold water on that idea.

I wonder if things would have turned out better if the whole process had started from the other direction; if the first stage that they had built was at the end of Semaphore Rd and then they worked their way south. That end has the best chance of giving the community something they will want - an open space, a plaza by the water for example, with better access than the first two stages have. That might have gotten the locals onside with the work, rather than building these rather inaccessible stages and starting an adversarial relationship. And it would also give a better context for debating what should happen on the other bank. I realise that there were practical advantages for starting at Stage 1, since the land was already empty, but if taking slightly longer would have avoided some planning obstacles perhaps it's a case of "more haste, less speed".

[rhino]

That might have gotten the locals onside with the work....

What the? How long have you been living in Seattle? I can't find this word in my English/Australian dictionary!

[Prince George]

That might have gotten the locals onside with the work....

What the? How long have you been living in Seattle? I can't find this word in my English/Australian dictionary!

*ahem* Perhaps I chose the archaic form of 'got', but bear in mind I died in 1708. And don't tell me you've never referred to someone's ill-gotten gains ...

[monotonehell]

That might have gotten the locals onside with the work....

What the? How long have you been living in Seattle? I can't find this word in my English/Australian dictionary!

*ahem* Perhaps I chose the archaic form of 'got', but bear in mind I died in 1708. And don't tell me you've never referred to someone's ill-gotten gains ...

Perhaps you've "forgotten" that while England and Australia moved on to modern English, the US stayed behind. But confusingly decided to spell things wrong. I actually hate how "got" can be a place holder for almost any verb these days.

AnywayS...

I'll be very interested in seeing if these fill with actual residents...

[rev]

http://www.photoadelaide.com/newgal/mai ... alNumber=2
I don't mind that at all. Doesn't look like it's something you'd find in Adelaide.

Really? My impression was that it was quite typical of a number of places around Adelaide, for example several spots by the water at Mawson Lakes - like this one at Peninsula and Grandview.

Hardly the same, bar the 3 story building in both.
And these are both new developments, Newport being the most recent, so yes, these are not typical Adelaide style developments.

[CitySight]

While I was away on holiday I noticed an ad in The Advertiser business section by a law firm advertising for litigants in a potential class action against Newport Quays Stage 2 (being Marina Cove which should have just settled).

The law firm was DLA Phillips Fox and they mention they are "acting for a number of purchasers in relation to a dispute about contracts to purchase properties", they then go on invite people interested in becoming a party to the legal proceedings to contact them.

Does anyone know anything about this? To be at this stage (ie advertising) they must have enough people already on board to be considering it worthwhile. Either that or it is a scare tactic used to incite action from Urban Construct in negotiations on current claims.

Thoughts?

CS

[Port Adelaide Fan]

New Quays plans

NEWPORT Quays will amend its Stage2B development application in a bid to allow the next stage of the $2 billion waterfront redevelopment to proceed.

After lodging an appeal in the Environment, Resource and Development (ERD) Court in December to overturn the refusal of Stage 2B, Newport Quays Consortium says it will negotiate with the Port Waterfront Redevelopment Committee (PWRC) and the Port Adelaide Enfield Council to reach an agreement for its development application.

In an emailed statement, Newport Quays spokeswoman Diep Romeo said they were “working alongside key stakeholders in reaching an acceptable compromise on plans for Stage 2B of Newport Quays.”

The developers lodged the appeal with the ERD Court after the PWRC, a sub-committee of the State Government’s Development Assessment Commission, rejected the initial application in September on the grounds it exceeded building heights, overshadowed public areas and lacked open space.

The ERD Court last week accepted Port Enfield Council’s application to join the appeal, allowing it to participate in mediation with the developers and the PWRC.

The first stage of the appeal requires all parties to address amendments proposed by Newport Quays to determine whether a compromise or a resolution can be reached.

Judge Christine Trenorden adjourned the matter to enable the parties to negotiate before reconvening on April 20.

http://portside-messenger.whereilive.co ... ays-plans/

[Omicron]

Good. Sorry, Newport Quays Consortium, but your plan was uninspiring, immature, and smelled of elderberries.

[Brando]

This story applies to all Urban Construct projects, not just Newport Quays. Didn't want to start a new thread.

Interesting tactics used by U/C here. I would be curious to know more about this. Surely there would have to be a, $$$$ : Gift ratio attached.

BMW, boat or bucks sweeten deals


AN "extraordinary" stunt involving free BMWs and luxury sports boats helped a developer defy the financial crisis and sell $3 million of houses and apartments at the weekend.

Urban Construct's Developer Summer 2009 Clearance Sale, which started on Saturday, allows buyers to choose one of five incentives when they buy a property at Place on Brougham, North Adelaide, and Edgewater and Marina Cove, Newport Quays.

They can choose from a BMW 320i, valued at $63,826, a Sea Ray 185 Luxury Sports Boat, 0 per cent finance interest for two years, plus stamp duty, or three years rent return, which also includes stamp duty.

The sale finishes on February 28, with keen buyers snapping up more than $3 million worth over the weekend.

Properties offered as part of the promotion start at $309,900 at Newport Quays. The cheapest property offered at Place on Brougham costs $799,900. Adelaide property expert Peter Koulizos described the move as "unprecedented".

"I've heard of developers giving away $5000 or $10,000 towards the house, but never anything like this," he said.

"It's an extraordinary way to try and move stock."

Urban Construct marketing manager Diep Romeo said the campaign aimed to encourage buyers who had adopted a "wait and see" approach during the global financial crisis to enter the market.

"The feedback we are getting from our sales teams is that while buyers are confident about the Adelaide property market, they are delaying their decisions in this time of global uncertainty," she said.

Social analyst David Chalke said similar deals are happening throughout industries across the country, from buy-one-get-one-free holiday packages to department store sales offering up to 70 per cent discount.

"In tough circumstances, you can either sit back and hope things can fix themselves, or get out there with some aggressive marketing to keep your cash flow going," he said.

"This developer is doing exactly the right thing. Their competition is a whole load of other developers and they've done something dramatic, to catch people's attention and motivate them to invest.

"You've also got to remember there's a lot of BMW dealers that can't get rid of stock and the boat market has virtually evaporated in the past year, so it's also a good initiative for them too."