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[COM] RAH discussion

Posted: Wed Feb 23, 2011 11:18 am
by stumpjumper
It's just a pity such a brilliant, gateway site has been used for a non-public utility like a hospital, whatever they do with the facade.

Imagine that whole precinct - lake, old gaol, Bonython Park to the north - with the police moving out of Thebarton Barracks there would have been a chance to link all that up with the edge of the city.

There was an opportunity here for some large-scale thinking here, the sort that posters here constantly claim is missing in Adelaide. There's 'Riverbank Precinct' underway immediately to the east, and a university full of people across the road with no outdoor recreation area, so what do you build on this pivotal site? A water treatment facility? An electricity substation? Almost as bad in planning terms - a hospital.

There are a thousand great uses for a site like that, but I cannot think of any good reason for building as hospital on it.

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Posted: Wed Feb 23, 2011 11:21 am
by Waewick
it is called Stubbornness, and worse yet, it is old man stubbornness linked in with a desire have a legacy – the worst things you can possibly have when going into any argument.

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Posted: Wed Feb 23, 2011 1:11 pm
by stumpjumper
Yes, I was going to mention that, but I thought I do enough whingeing about the govt on here as it is, but the last thing that site should be used for is a monument to Rann, Conlon and Foley when there are so many more interesting and effective uses for such a site.

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Posted: Wed Feb 23, 2011 1:36 pm
by Nort
Where would you have built a new city hospital then?

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Posted: Wed Feb 23, 2011 1:55 pm
by Pants
stumpjumper wrote:It's just a pity such a brilliant, gateway site has been used for a non-public utility like a hospital, whatever they do with the facade.

Imagine that whole precinct - lake, old gaol, Bonython Park to the north - with the police moving out of Thebarton Barracks there would have been a chance to link all that up with the edge of the city.

There was an opportunity here for some large-scale thinking here, the sort that posters here constantly claim is missing in Adelaide. There's 'Riverbank Precinct' underway immediately to the east, and a university full of people across the road with no outdoor recreation area, so what do you build on this pivotal site? A water treatment facility? An electricity substation? Almost as bad in planning terms - a hospital.

There are a thousand great uses for a site like that, but I cannot think of any good reason for building as hospital on it.
This is one of those rare occasions I agree with you.

I'm resigned to the fact that the hospital's going ahead though, so have come to accept it - on the proviso that they put the other available space to good use.

[COM] Re: SWP: New Royal Adelaide Hospital | $1.7b

Posted: Wed Feb 23, 2011 1:56 pm
by Pants
Nort wrote:Where would you have built a new city hospital then?
Keswick. Not CBD, but close enough.

[COM] Re: SWP: New Royal Adelaide Hospital | $1.7b

Posted: Wed Feb 23, 2011 2:04 pm
by Waewick
or...just leave it where it is :lol:

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Posted: Wed Feb 23, 2011 2:15 pm
by rhino
Pants wrote:
Nort wrote:Where would you have built a new city hospital then?
Keswick. Not CBD, but close enough.
Can't wait to hear Aiden's response to this. He said moving the hospital 1km further along North Terrace was putting Eastern Suburbs dwellers at a disadvantage.

[COM] Re: SWP: New Royal Adelaide Hospital | $1.7b

Posted: Wed Feb 23, 2011 2:17 pm
by Waewick
should we perhaps move this to the other thread to avoid derailing it....

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Posted: Wed Feb 23, 2011 2:33 pm
by Pants
rhino wrote:
Pants wrote:
Nort wrote:Where would you have built a new city hospital then?
Keswick. Not CBD, but close enough.
Can't wait to hear Aiden's response to this. He said moving the hospital 1km further along North Terrace was putting Eastern Suburbs dwellers at a disadvantage.
Is he the subway dude?

That just might be your answer.

[COM] Re: SWP: New Royal Adelaide Hospital | $1.7b

Posted: Wed Feb 23, 2011 5:14 pm
by AtD
After four years can you please just accept that it's going to be built where it is going to be built and find something less repetitive to talk about.


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Posted: Wed Feb 23, 2011 8:30 pm
by contractor
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Posted: Wed Feb 23, 2011 9:17 pm
by metro
contractor wrote:.
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Posted: Thu Feb 24, 2011 1:56 am
by stumpjumper
This is one of those rare occasions I agree with you.
Why, thank you Pants. I feel that my efforts on this forum have not been wasted...

I also agree that the horse has bolted, but a little reflection can sometimes improve future decision-making (not that such decisions are made here, worse luck).

[COM] Re: SWP: New Royal Adelaide Hospital | $1.7b

Posted: Thu Feb 24, 2011 8:49 am
by Aidan
Pants wrote:
rhino wrote:
Pants wrote:[
Keswick. Not CBD, but close enough.
Can't wait to hear Aiden's response to this.
I've already explained why I, like many others here, think an onsite rebuild is by far the best option. I'm happy to clarify any issues you might have with it, but just repeating my opinion over and over is rather a waste of time.
He said moving the hospital 1km further along North Terrace was putting Eastern Suburbs dwellers at a disadvantage.
And I stand by that comment. In our increasingly gridlocked City, ambulances will take longer to get there, and there's no alternative hospital for the Eastern Suburbs.
Is he the subway dude?

That just might be your answer.
Living near the Noarlunga Line (where trains travel past the City to dump all its passengers right on its edge) I make no apologies for stressing the importance of extending the line under the City to get the passengers nearer to their destination more quickly, as every other mainland state capital has already done.