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[COM] Re: PRO: 50 Flinders St | ~60m | 15lvls | Office
Posted: Tue Feb 26, 2013 2:45 pm
by [Shuz]
Brando wrote:[Shuz] wrote:Oh my god.
THIS ONE DOESN'T HAVE A BLANK WESTERN WALL.
IT CAN BE DONE.
That's because the western wall is Gawler Place.
Didn't stop the ANZ Tower (City Central 1) from having a blank western wall, even though it abuts Post Office Lane...
[COM] Re: PRO: 50 Flinders St | 63m | 15lvls | Office
Posted: Fri Mar 01, 2013 9:37 am
by Ben
Fullplans are now on ACC website.
Height to roof is 63m
http://ncapps.adelaidecitycouncil.com/a ... hments.pdf
[COM] Re: PRO: 50 Flinders St | 63m | 15lvls | Office
Posted: Fri Mar 01, 2013 10:08 am
by UrbanSG
Thanks Ben.
Shows office buildings can still be constructed without a single elevation having a blank wall in Adelaide! Something that's very rare these days.
If only the building had a few more floors height to make it stand out more in that location.
The link with the Santos building is interesting and reinforces the recent Santos office lease news. Maybe Santos could also end up linking into a new office to be constructed on the former Planet site to the north one day in the future? Hopefully a much taller building than the one proposed a few years back.
[COM] Re: PRO: 50 Flinders St | 63m | 15lvls | Office
Posted: Fri Mar 01, 2013 11:34 am
by Will
Interesting to note that this building will have a skybridge on level 6, connecting it to the Santos HQ.
[COM] Re: PRO: 50 Flinders St | 63m | 15lvls | Office
Posted: Fri Mar 01, 2013 11:55 am
by rhino
I'm guessing that level 6 is one of the levels that SANTOS is taking a long term lease over.
[COM] Re: PRO: 50 Flinders St | 63m | 15lvls | Office
Posted: Fri Mar 01, 2013 12:51 pm
by Brando
Page 16 of the PDF really gives you an idea the size of this project.
[COM] Re: PRO: 50 Flinders St | 63m | 15lvls | Office
Posted: Fri Mar 01, 2013 12:57 pm
by Ben
This project reminds me a lot of the site for the failed Hills Headquarters in many aspects, same size building, similar design, same architects, same level of pre commitment... hope the fate is not the same.
[COM] Re: PRO: 50 Flinders St | 63m | 15lvls | Office
Posted: Fri Mar 01, 2013 1:27 pm
by Pants
Wouldn't think so. People's Choice and Santos are in far better shape than Hills was (and is now).
[COM] Re: PRO: 50 Flinders St | 63m | 15lvls | Office
Posted: Fri Mar 01, 2013 1:38 pm
by UrbanSG
This development has 75% pre commitment Ben (15,000 sqm).
I thought Hills had only agreed to lease a couple of levels in the failed KWS development? Something like only 20-25% pre commitment?
[COM] Re: PRO: 50 Flinders St | 63m | 15lvls | Office
Posted: Fri Mar 01, 2013 1:48 pm
by Waewick
I thought HIlls was taking the whole building - rather than a small %.
the JV partner pull out and effectively killed the deal from memory
edit - how do you quote a post from another thread?
the other thread being the one on that proposal
http://www.sensational-adelaide.com/for ... &start=405
[COM] Re: PRO: 50 Flinders St | 63m | 15lvls | Office
Posted: Fri Mar 01, 2013 2:06 pm
by Ben
I think this one will be fine as long as nothing unexpected happens (GFC). Just was drawing attention to the similarities
[COM] Re: PRO: 50 Flinders St | 63m | 15lvls | Office
Posted: Fri Mar 01, 2013 3:16 pm
by UrbanSG
Well my memory of 20-25% pre commitment for the Hills development was close, it was 30% (see quote from that thread below).
Talk about boom time pre commitments, no wonder that proposal got canned as a result of the GFC.
This is a totally different situation with 75% pre commitment, it should proceed providing the economy continues to stabilise.
413 KWS thread quote:
This is a pretty exciting development. The site next to the Optus building on South Terrace/King William St is to be developed into a 20,000sqm office building. To be known as Hills House, Hills Industries will take up 6,000sqm while the remaining 14,000 will be spec.
[COM] Re: PRO: 50 Flinders St | 63m | 15lvls | Office
Posted: Fri Mar 01, 2013 5:00 pm
by Will
Just out of curiosity, it appears that this building is behind the modern facade of the current 2 level building at this site:
[COM] Re: PRO: 50 Flinders St | 63m | 15lvls | Office
Posted: Fri Mar 01, 2013 5:48 pm
by Reb-L
Yes, I think that used to be the Earl of Zetland (unless I had one too many).
[COM] Re: PRO: 50 Flinders St | 63m | 15lvls | Office
Posted: Fri Mar 01, 2013 8:40 pm
by Waewick
Reb-L wrote:Yes, I think that used to be the Earl of Zetland (unless I had one too many).
http://adelaidephotos.com.au/flindersst001a.htm
I wonder if the council have realised yet....