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monotonehell wrote:

rev wrote:I cant trust a party that flip flops between which major party to support based on which way the political winds are blowing at the time.
They may have a set of policies posted on their website, but that doesn't make them trustworthy if they are going to be willing to compromise with the major parties in order to gain more political power/standing.

If they were a party that stood on it's own, against the major parties, then sure, I can see the merit in giving them my vote.
But why vote for Greens when they'll just side with which ever major party offers them the best deal? Just vote for the most likely major party to win, same thing at the end of the day.

But you can trust them. Instead of choosing a team right or wrong, they look at what is being proposed on that day.

In other words they look at the evidence and vote for, side with, or negotiate for the best outcome for the electorate.

That's a far better policy than just choosing a team and supporting them no matter what bills that team produce.

Look at the recent tax transparency bill. The Greens negotiated up from zero to most companies needing to publish how much tax they pay. The choices were to vote for the bill and have no companies' tax published OR reject the bill and have no companies' tax published. The Greens instead negotiated an amendment which means most companies' tax paid is reported. That way it will be simpler to extend the bill later.

Don't believe the anti-Green spin that the desperate Labor machine pumps out. Two misinformation campaigns come to mind recently; the tax transparency above and the pensioner scare over the pension bill from last year. The Labor memes were pumped out and people simply believe it - and still do. Labor should be cooperating with the Greens, but instead they are scared of losing votes so are waging a misinformation campaign.

I'm not suggesting voting for Xenophon or any of his candidates because they present a viable alternative or because of their policies.
I'm going to vote for them, because Xenophon has a history of standing up for the little guy, making noise, and helping people have their voices heard. He is the best chance South Australia has of having some form of viable opposition to the government that can hold the government accountable and pressure them. The Greens wont, because they'll just get in bed with them in a convenient deal for them.

See above.

Greens make just as much noise if not more, actually negotiate useful amendments to bills, and at a federal level are a constant source of important questions at senate estimates. The Coalition hate that because the Greens are constantly pointing out what they would rather keep quiet. Hence why I support both Greens and NXT.

The Liberals in this state have failed as an opposition, I don't even want to contemplate what a disaster it would be if they were government. We need an alternative in this state.

Agreed.

rev wrote:Sorry Mono, but you wont sway me to ever vote for the Greens.
I'm as likely to vote for the Greens as I am to vote for communists/far left or nazis. Hell could freeze over and defrost.

rev wrote:...What's their strategy exactly? To sit back do as little as possible and wait till Labor inevitably screws up the state as bad as it's ever been combined with uncontrolled global issues and then try and win an election?

monotonehell wrote:

rev wrote:...What's their strategy exactly? To sit back do as little as possible and wait till Labor inevitably screws up the state as bad as it's ever been combined with uncontrolled global issues and then try and win an election?

Amazingly it hasn't worked so far. But I think you're right. No action = no target.

Same procedure Federal Labor had been using until recently. Now they are using the undermine the Greens strategy.

rev wrote:So whose had a read of the Liberas 2036 manifesto for the state?

peas_and_corn wrote:

rev wrote:So whose had a read of the Liberas 2036 manifesto for the state?

I tried to, I really really did. Got to the end of their "economic vision" and closed the pdf. So many pages promising they will release policies to conform to a set of buzzword-filled principles.

They've had a long time to come up with ideas, and so far the only policies I can think of are the ones from the last election, which were "cutting taxes and spending on small projects will create a surplus".

Oh how I wish we had a good state opposition

GoodSmackUp wrote:It would be nice to have a premier with as much guts as Playford

Waewick wrote:

GoodSmackUp wrote:It would be nice to have a premier with as much guts as Playford

lets face it

in SA we have two parties - one run by unions for the benefit of unions and lead by people deflecting blame and responsiblity until the union replaces them

the other is a party that relies on a diminishing number of volunteers and donors to prop them up and as a result relies on political students and federal governmnet support staff to provide assistance to some very underwhelming candidates who happen to friends with Christopher Pyne.

Norman wrote:What's even worse is that a lot of the politicians spend more time bitching about each other on Twitter than probably doing actual work. It's a disgrace.