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#661 Post by cruel_world00 » Tue Jun 01, 2010 11:12 am

Not that I take any enjoyment in another state's lament, I did think it was interesting to see that a venue as famous as the Opera House in the headlines for all the wrong reasons. Looks like funding, or there lack of, for Arts venues isn't exclusive to Adelaide. Not that I believe a lot that is written by News Limited, still nice to know we aren't the only state having these issues.

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#662 Post by Wayno » Tue Jun 01, 2010 12:52 pm

crawf wrote:I would rather see the Festival Centre given a major revamp.
agree.
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#663 Post by Waewick » Tue Jun 01, 2010 2:51 pm

crawf wrote:I would rather see the Festival Centre given a major revamp.
agreed

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#664 Post by ricecrackers » Tue Jun 01, 2010 3:19 pm

perhaps we need a thread for that

tbh I'm not really sure what you do with the exterior of the Festival Centre. when it was built in the 70's it was only ever a cheap knock off of the Opera House, but we were proud of it then, during a time when we lived in blissful naivety. even so, its still the most prominent building of our northern skyline, so any major change would be difficult to accept by most who are used to that aspect. it does seem in conflict with the new convention centre though on that count.

it was always the centerpiece during the height of our Arts festivals during the 70's and early 80's, but now seems to be underutilized and underused in comparison to those times. in a sense it has already been replaced by the Ent Centre..which due to the recent interior refit has a little more class about it than the original interior.
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#665 Post by Vee » Tue Jun 01, 2010 7:36 pm

crawf wrote:I would rather see the Festival Centre given a major revamp.
One more vote from me.

Vital part of a Riverside precinct upgrade.

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#666 Post by Stubbo » Wed Jun 02, 2010 8:01 am

veemur wrote:
crawf wrote:I would rather see the Festival Centre given a major revamp.
One more vote from me.

Vital part of a Riverside precinct upgrade.
Yep definately. Expand the Convention Centre as already proposed, but significantly revamp the whole stretch from the Convention Centre through to the Festival Centre.

Leave the old RAH site to be put back into the Botanical Gardens, but link it through to the new Zoo entrance better or at least make the entrance to the Botanical Gardens something significant other than a small, easily missable gate.

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#667 Post by crawf » Fri Jun 04, 2010 4:11 pm

Surprised no one has posted this
Heritage Matters: Vision of a Museum of Adelaide
http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/news/sout ... 5874607453

THE battle for a Museum of Adelaide was fought and lost nearly a decade ago when the Treasury Building next to Adelaide Town Hall was converted into the Medina Grand Hotel.

It was not an altogether bad outcome, as the Medina Grand has made an asset out of the many heritage elements of the building and avoided irreversible changes to its fabric, which includes some of the oldest bits of Adelaide. What did not go away was the need for a Museum of Adelaide. That should be a starting point for any journey into the history and culture of our city and state.

At present, the options are limited by the specialist nature of our existing museums. These provide many portals into the city and South Australia. Each has its particular flavour.

You can start in Port Adelaide at the SA Maritime Museum, where some idea of settlement can be garnered, or go to the State Library and see some of the original documentation that formed the state.

You can visit the SA Museum or the Adelaide Zoo and Botanic Garden, and learn more about our indigenous cultures and natural history.

You can explore the Art Gallery of SA and find out more about the complex interplay of ideas and cultures which shaped by our city and state. There are museums for immigration and settlement, theatre, railways, automobiles, aviation and other subjects.

What you cannot find is a museum for Adelaide that captures the origin and meaning of the city but, more importantly, a museum that opens the way to our depth of museums and makes sure they can be understood.

Many institutions hold artefacts and documents on Adelaide. Parliament House and the Town Hall are prime examples, holding some magnificent, but rarely viewed, treasures.

A good idea never dies, and it turns out Adelaide City Council, with the State Library and other institutions, has been preparing confidential plans for a distributed Museum of Adelaide. The museum potentially can be located at the distinctly underused Institute Building on North Tce.

With the right brief and support, it could give locals and visitors a meaningful introduction to the city and provide a stepping-off point and guide to the fabric of city museums and heritage treasures.

* Some of Adelaide's suburbs have their own museums. Try the Museum of Unley.

* There is a Museum of Sydney, a Melbourne Museum and a Museum of Brisbane.

* Today and tomorrow are the final days of SA History Week, and a great time to explore SA's many museums.

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#668 Post by AtD » Thu Jun 10, 2010 8:55 am

Today's AFR: The Riverside Centre on North Tce has been sold to a German group for $66.8m. The building was sold by Industry Super Property Trust who acquired it in 2001 for $35.1m. It is 23,000 sqm and will be on-sold to wholesale investors in Germany.

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#669 Post by Prince George » Thu Jun 10, 2010 9:08 am

AtD wrote:Today's AFR: The Riverside Centre on North Tce has been sold to a German group for $66.8m. The building was sold by Industry Super Property Trust who acquired it in 2001 for $35.1m. It is 23,000 sqm and will be on-sold to wholesale investors in Germany.
I had to lookup which building that actually is - it's the grey one with four octagonal buildings joined together like a four-leaf clover that's between the convention centre, the Hyatt, and the railway station. It seems to be almost entirely state government offices, so we can all rest easy that German investors are reaping the benefits of government leases. :?

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#670 Post by activ8ed » Thu Jun 10, 2010 10:09 am

Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but I though that the Riverside Centre is supposed to be earmarked for demolition in conjunction with the Convention Centre and Torrens Riverbank redevelopment?

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#671 Post by AtD » Thu Jun 10, 2010 10:19 am

Prince: It's the blue one. It used to have a big staircase on North Tce to the first floor lobby but they removed it and now I presume the lobby is on the ground floor. I thought Singapore Airlines (or Malaysia Airlines?) were a tenant too. Could be wrong.

Yes Shuz, they paid $67m to have it demolished...

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#672 Post by Prince George » Thu Jun 10, 2010 11:58 am

AtD wrote:Prince: It's the blue one. It used to have a big staircase on North Tce to the first floor lobby but they removed it and now I presume the lobby is on the ground floor. I thought Singapore Airlines (or Malaysia Airlines?) were a tenant too. Could be wrong
I saw the article - the photo there is that octagonal building I'm talking about, on the north side of the terrace. That picture has a blue tint, but the actual building is the kind of colour that gives grey a bad name.

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#673 Post by Nort » Thu Jun 10, 2010 1:12 pm

How did that building get built in the first place on that side of North Terrace anyway? It's the odd one out when you long along all the rest of North Terrace. Was it needed to raise funds when the convention center was initially built or something? I can't imagine the outcry if someone proposed building a commercial office building on that side of North Terrace nowadays.

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#674 Post by SRW » Thu Jun 10, 2010 1:25 pm

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#675 Post by monotonehell » Fri Jun 11, 2010 8:52 pm

SRW wrote:*grits teeth*

ASER, children. It's the ASER.
You can see it being constructed on the right, along with the hotel on the left, in this circa 1986 photo on Wikipedia...
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