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#721 Post by spiller » Wed Aug 18, 2010 12:43 pm

rev wrote:
metro wrote:The Adelaide City Council :P

our extreme air-safety rules, if you've seen how low planes like to fly over the CBD you would see why wespac is our tallest..need to get very strong demand here and redirect all flights by making the Adelaide CBD restricted airspace/no-fly-zone whatever it's called
Thats crap and I wish people would stop spreading ACC nimby propaganda.

I've given examples before of airports that are closer to a CBD, with planes flying closer to buildings, then what in Adelaide. And the buildings are taller.
Then you have places like Hong Kong, which had an airport surrounded by high rise. Never stopped them building tall buildings.

But for some reason it seems our council is under the belief that if they allow tall buildings they will magically attract planes out of the sky onto them.
The planes do fly quite close, I will demonstrate by taking a photo from my window seat on the rex flight that I catch back into Adelaide this afternoon. I dont think the risk of crashing into buildings is the reason why the restrction apply however; something about radar interferences come to mind, but i'm no expert on the matter.

RE: tall buildings being built in other citys close to the airport (like Hong Kong) and not Adelaide, one must also compare the economic status of the two cities. Adelaide doesnt have the demand at the moment for multiple (or even one) 200m+ towers. When it does, I assure you, the height restrictions will not hold the city (or its skyline) back. Things are on the move in Adelaide slowly, but surely. A negative focus on absence gets no one anywhere.

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#722 Post by Ben » Tue Nov 23, 2010 2:55 pm

"The Loft" is likely to be approved by the DAC on Thursday meeting after Urban Construct have addressed the DAC's original issues:

http://www.dac.sa.gov.au/index.cfm?obje ... 0F2030D46A

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#723 Post by Just build it » Wed Nov 24, 2010 4:35 am

I want one of the undersize 48sq one beds with undersize balcony and concrete column obstructed car park space.

Sounds like a wonderfully 'urban' life. :toilet:

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#724 Post by omada » Wed Nov 24, 2010 10:45 am

I want one of the undersize 48sq one beds with undersize balcony and concrete column obstructed car park space.

Sounds like a wonderfully 'urban' life. :toilet:

This issue of small sqm living has come up in couple of threads of late. It is only in highly urbanised, or should I say "sub-urbanised" nations like Australia, US and Canada, that we have become fixated with owning a classic block of land, in Europe and in Asia, they have no problems living in small spaces. The difference being that their cities are more "active" than ours, ie public spaces, "community" etc. In our migration to the suburbs and the associated urban sprawl, our cities and indeed our society have lost the connections with space and community. If done properly, there is nothing wrong with living in one of these apartments. Disclaimer: I too live in one of these suburbs, with my block of land.

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#725 Post by Will » Wed Nov 24, 2010 11:16 am

omada wrote:
I want one of the undersize 48sq one beds with undersize balcony and concrete column obstructed car park space.

Sounds like a wonderfully 'urban' life. :toilet:

This issue of small sqm living has come up in couple of threads of late. It is only in highly urbanised, or should I say "sub-urbanised" nations like Australia, US and Canada, that we have become fixated with owning a classic block of land, in Europe and in Asia, they have no problems living in small spaces. The difference being that their cities are more "active" than ours, ie public spaces, "community" etc. In our migration to the suburbs and the associated urban sprawl, our cities and indeed our society have lost the connections with space and community. If done properly, there is nothing wrong with living in one of these apartments. Disclaimer: I too live in one of these suburbs, with my block of land.
But herein lies the problem. I too live in the suburbs in my detached house with a large backyard. I would love to live in the city, and would be happy to live without a backyard, but not too happy to live in something the size of my lounge room. Australians love to live in big houses, and I am sure the apartment market would boom if developers actually built apartments the average Australian would like to live in.

There is a space in the market for small apartments, however the market is not solely composed by Asian students.

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#726 Post by Waewick » Wed Nov 24, 2010 11:31 am

I wonder what the costs would be to build a whole tower of 100m2 apartments?

I would imagine it would be very very high

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#727 Post by Wayno » Wed Nov 24, 2010 11:36 am

capitalist wrote:I wonder what the costs would be to build a whole tower of 100m2 apartments?

I would imagine it would be very very high
probably less than building a similar tower of smaller apartments (potentially less plumbing for one thing). From an apartment purchase perspective the cost would probably be double that of a 2br apartment ($700k+)
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#728 Post by Waewick » Wed Nov 24, 2010 11:55 am

do you think the taller building heights being propsied would encourage more decent sized ones?

I would imagine it would be a benefit.

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#729 Post by skyliner » Wed Nov 24, 2010 6:10 pm

As someone else recently said, cost/demand factors would control this - evidenced in other capitals as taller bldgs.

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#730 Post by ghs » Thu Nov 25, 2010 10:57 pm

If all 5 of these developments go ahead and the other building on 176-178 Mortphett sreet
goes ahead then we'll end up with a nice community of apartments.... :)

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#731 Post by Isiskii » Fri Nov 26, 2010 9:18 am

Not to mention the Andrew Street development. I think that's still proposed, floating around in space somewhere. News on that one has been very quiet. But yes you're right, It'll be good to have that influx of people into the West End and stimulate the business and retail potential of the surrounding area.

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#732 Post by Will » Fri Dec 03, 2010 10:48 am

From the Messenger:
Loft gets go-ahead

Local News2 Dec 10 @ 02:13pm by Jessica Whiting

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A third building in the city’s largest residential development has been approved by the state’s Development Assessment Commission (DAC).

‘The Loft’ will front Franklin St on the former Balfours site and is part of the Precinct development, a joint venture between Urban Construct and Brookfield Multiplex.

The building, worth about $50 million, features a ground floor plus seven storeys with 10 small home office apartments, 78 one and two bedroom apartments, three shops and 88 car parks.

Stage two of the “rec deck” - a rooftop space for the Precinct’s residents - will also be built with an outdoor pool and spa, gymnasium, sundeck and tai-chi deck.

The Loft joins two other apartment buildings on the Precinct’s site, including the $55 million The Gallery and the $80 million Altitude, both on Morphett St.

The Precinct Consortium spokesman Todd Brown said the building’s contemporary form would set new benchmarks for design in the residential apartment market.

The DAC approved the plans for the building at a meeting last week subject to a number of conditions.

The city council’s development assessment panel did not make a recommendation on the project as the council owns the land.

Property Council of SA executive director Nathan Paine said the western corner of the city incorporating the Precinct had been overlooked for some time but that was starting to change with new developments.

“We’ve got a great opportunity in the western quarter of the city to really create a vibrant and active precinct and anything that contributes to that is positive,” he said.

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#733 Post by mshagg » Mon Feb 07, 2011 1:04 pm

Hey all. I just moved into altitude, so will be able to watch the loft development like a hawk.

Hasnt been any movement on the site since i moved in a couple of weeks ago, do they have another round to go with the DAC?

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#734 Post by jk1237 » Tue Feb 08, 2011 12:14 pm

mshagg wrote:Hey all. I just moved into altitude, so will be able to watch the loft development like a hawk.

Hasnt been any movement on the site since i moved in a couple of weeks ago, do they have another round to go with the DAC?
hey there, are you high enough to take some nice snaps of the city skyline for us :) :)

Ive noticed that altitude residents have access to a pool. Ive never noticed it when the building was being built, whereabouts is it?

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#735 Post by mshagg » Tue Feb 08, 2011 4:57 pm

Sure thing, pic from the balcony attached (before the crane went up there on Waymouth next to the WorkCover building). Lol, the array of airconditioners on Gallery in all their glory :lol:

There is a pool on level 6 (which is really level 5... as the ground floor is denoted level 1), which is kinda cool as it has an all-glass section that extends out the side of the building by a meter or so. If you look from the plaza area between Gallery and Altitude you can see it hanging out. Its a nice place to go later in the evening and sit in the spa which has a nice view south and south east of the building.
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