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Re: ## General Public Transport thread
Posted: Sun Sep 30, 2012 6:29 pm
by neoballmon
Nathan wrote:You can get 2 section single trip tickets on the bus, you just have to ask for one specifically. If you don't say "section ticket" or "2 section", then you'll be given a normal ticket. 2 section multi-trips are bought from outlets, just like any other multi-trip.
Nothing happens if you end up passing 2 sections, other than you are no longer are travelling on a valid fare - so risk getting done by inspectors, just like people travelling on concession tickets who shouldn't be or people with no ticket at all.
Thank you for that. That's very handy to know, I'll definately keep that in mind next time I take a short trip!
Re: ## General Public Transport thread
Posted: Sun Sep 30, 2012 7:15 pm
by monotonehell
Splashmo wrote:This is all new to me. I've never heard of a two section ticket. Could I have been taking the 861 all the way down Glen Osmond Road and only on a two section ticket?
We've had them since the inception of this new system (possibly even before on the punched paper tickets I can't remember that far back). I buy a two-section multitrip which works out to 1.73 per trip. Since all I do is catch the tram in the morning from Pirie Street to Greenhill road (only one stop past the "free zone", I could walk the last bit but I never get out of bed early enough lol, I do walk all the way home after work though).
Section Tickets
Once validated, each trip on a Multitrip 2 SECTION ticket cannot be used to transfer onto another service and is valid only for a journey that is no more than 2 Sections (approx. 3kms).
Singletrip 2 SECTION tickets cannot be used to transfer onto another service once validated and are valid only for a journey that is no more than 2 Sections (approx. 3kms).
Two Sections explained
A Two Section ticket allows you to travel two sections which generally works out to be around 3 kilometres in distance.
Unlike Adelaide Metro Zone tickets you are unable to transfer services when travelling on a Two Section ticket without another trip being used on your ticket. Two Section tickets are considerably cheaper than Zone tickets, making them an excellent choice for anyone living close to their desired destination. Two Section tickets are available in the following varieties;
- Multitrip and Singletrip All Times Two Section tickets
which can be used at any time of any day.
- Multitrip and Singletrip Interpeak Two Section tickets
which can only be used between 9.01am and 3.00pm Monday to Friday excluding public holidays.
All of these tickets can only be used for Two Sections or part thereof and are not transferable. See the map below for bus section examples.
http://www.adelaidemetro.com.au/ticketi ... -explained
Re: ## General Public Transport thread
Posted: Sun Sep 30, 2012 10:29 pm
by ChillyPhilly
Essentially it seems that two-section tickets are primarily geared towards CBD workers who live in neighbouring suburbs, then. They should retain it but revamp it, as only ~15% of all jobs across Adelaide are in town...
Re: ## General Public Transport thread
Posted: Mon Oct 01, 2012 4:10 pm
by monotonehell
ChillyPhilly wrote:Essentially it seems that two-section tickets are primarily geared towards CBD workers who live in neighbouring suburbs, then. They should retain it but revamp it, as only ~15% of all jobs across Adelaide are in town...
Also people who want to pop down to their local shops or pub.
Re: ## General Public Transport thread
Posted: Mon Oct 01, 2012 5:32 pm
by claybro
A pity they don't advertise these local zone tickets.I have actually had a bus driver deny the existance of such a ticket and was charged full price from Mile End. The cost of fares is a major reason I often drive into the city and park. If there were more park and rides just outside the city (like the one at the ent. centre.) and the cost of travel into the city was under 2 bucks, it might prevent alot of cars parking in the city itself, around Hindmarsh Sqaure., the uni precinct or queing for carparks. The desire of the city council to de-car the city, perhaps they could subsidise the cheaper innner suburban fares, also to encourage residents the immediate areas outside the parklnds to use the city centre for shopping rather than drive to a suburban shopping centre and to get over the imaginary barrier of the parklands for many of these residents.
Re: Public transport smartcard system
Posted: Fri Oct 12, 2012 8:57 am
by muzzamo
If anyone wants one of these and still does not have one, the metrocentre on currie st (and presumably the one at the train station) is now replacing faulty metrotickets with metrocards.
Even though they are still not available to the general public, if you go in and tell them your ticket is faulty (they don't check if it actually is), they will offer you a metrocard as a replacement ($5 card cost still applies).
Re: Public transport smartcard system
Posted: Fri Oct 12, 2012 2:25 pm
by crawf
ozisnowman wrote:Apparently card will cost you $25 and have only $5 credit included. You then better not lose those cards as they will cost you $20 not including credit every time you lose it. Government trying to rip off other patrons to recoup fare evasion costs?
Tonsley213 wrote:No the cards will cost $5 for adults and $3.50 consessions plus $5 for credit.
I heard somewhere they are around $20 for a adult card. Similar to what it costs in other cities.
Re: Public transport smartcard system
Posted: Fri Oct 12, 2012 4:10 pm
by Tonsley213
crawf wrote:ozisnowman wrote:Apparently card will cost you $25 and have only $5 credit included. You then better not lose those cards as they will cost you $20 not including credit every time you lose it. Government trying to rip off other patrons to recoup fare evasion costs?
Tonsley213 wrote:No the cards will cost $5 for adults and $3.50 consessions plus $5 for credit.
I heard somewhere they are around $20 for a adult card. Similar to what it costs in other cities.
What are you on about?
the prices I have stated are correct. Back up by numerous Adelaide Metro Publications
Re: Public transport smartcard system
Posted: Fri Oct 12, 2012 4:14 pm
by Tonsley213
Right here for one.
http://www.adelaidemetro.com.au/ticketi ... ocard-cost
Also in the letters they send to trial participants.
Re: Public transport smartcard system
Posted: Fri Oct 12, 2012 4:48 pm
by neoballmon
Either I'm blind, or there's nothing on that page stating whether or not the credit put onto the card expires. Do I have a limited time to use it (ie. 6 months from recharge), or will it stay on there until I use it up?
Re: Public transport smartcard system
Posted: Fri Oct 12, 2012 5:08 pm
by Tonsley213
neoballmon wrote:Either I'm blind, or there's nothing on that page stating whether or not the credit put onto the card expires. Do I have a limited time to use it (ie. 6 months from recharge), or will it stay on there until I use it up?
There is no expiry, I was talking to one of the Admet people yesterday about the card.
Re: Public transport smartcard system
Posted: Fri Oct 12, 2012 5:08 pm
by Tonsley213
Re: Public transport smartcard system
Posted: Fri Oct 12, 2012 7:19 pm
by neoballmon
Thanks for that, has cleared a lot up
I can see the Auto-Recharge structure changing sometime soon though. As I see it, recharges go through at 8PM Daily (assuming no delays), $5 for an Adult trip, when the card reaches below the threshold ($3.19*2 = $6.38). Assuming an adult were to travel in morning and evening peak ($3.19*2=6.38), and recharge $5 each day, the card holder will run out of funds, or will have 2 simultaneous recharges every 3 or so days.
Example: (Bracket = multiple recharges allowed per day). Bracketless = One recharge per day.
Code: Select all
DAY START BAL AFTER MORN AFTER NIGHT RECHARGE TOTAL
MONDAY 10.00 6.81 3.62 5
TUES 8.62 5.43 2.24 5
WED 7.24 4.05 0.86 5 (10)
THU 5.86 (10.86) 2.67 ( 7.67) -0.52 ( 4.48) 5 ( 5)
FRI 4.48 ( 9.48) 1.29 ( 6.29) -1.90 ( 3.10) 5 ( 5)
SAT (no travel) 3.10 5
MON 8.10 ( 8.10) 4.91 ( 4.91) 1.72 ( 1.72) 5 ( 5)
TUE 6.72 ( 6.72) 3.53 ( 3.53) 0.34 ( 0.34) 5 (10)
WED 5.34 (10.34) 2.15 ( 7.15) 1.04 ( 3.96) 5 ( 5)
THU 3.96 ( 8.96) 0.77 ( 5.77) -2.42 ( 2.58) 5 ( 5)
FRI 2.58 ( 7.58) -0.61 ( 4.39) -3.80 ( 1.20) 5 (10)
SAT (no travel) 1.20 5
SUN (no travel) 6.20 5
MON 11.20 (11.20)
(I have spare time on my hands tonight
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{ Reformatted by monotonehell: I have even more apparently
}
Re: Public transport smartcard system
Posted: Sat Oct 13, 2012 12:20 am
by crawf
Tonsley213 wrote:crawf wrote:ozisnowman wrote:Apparently card will cost you $25 and have only $5 credit included. You then better not lose those cards as they will cost you $20 not including credit every time you lose it. Government trying to rip off other patrons to recoup fare evasion costs?
Tonsley213 wrote:No the cards will cost $5 for adults and $3.50 consessions plus $5 for credit.
I heard somewhere they are around $20 for a adult card. Similar to what it costs in other cities.
What are you on about?
the prices I have stated are correct. Back up by numerous Adelaide Metro Publications
Settle Mary.
Re: Public transport smartcard system
Posted: Mon Oct 15, 2012 2:14 pm
by Aidan
crawf wrote:ozisnowman wrote:Apparently card will cost you $25 and have only $5 credit included. You then better not lose those cards as they will cost you $20 not including credit every time you lose it. Government trying to rip off other patrons to recoup fare evasion costs?
Tonsley213 wrote:No the cards will cost $5 for adults and $3.50 consessions plus $5 for credit.
I heard somewhere they are around $20 for a adult card. Similar to what it costs in other cities.
What other cities? When I was in Melbourne last month IIRC a Myki card costs $6 (+ stored value).
I wouldn't be surprised if other cities sold cards for $20 including credit, but I doubt anywhere charges that much for the card itself.