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[COM] Re: Adelaide Oval Redevelopment - General Discussion Thread

#736 Post by Tyler_Durden » Tue Sep 14, 2010 7:53 pm

ozisnowman wrote:LA has the Rose Bowl, Adelaide will have the Toilet Bowl. This Fugly design needs to be scrapped and
the planned Eastern Stand needs to go all the way around connecting up to each side of the new Western
Stand.
Your problem is you have bad taste.

The open ended north end will be a great feature that will add character and beauty to a stadium that would otherwise be a concrete bowl. It's quite funny you mention the Rose Bowl, used primarily for College Football, because College Football has many many examples of horseshoe shaped stadiums. The USA is full of them.

Try these, for starters.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Husky_Stadium
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kenan_Memorial_Stadium
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Los_Angele ... l_Coliseum
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sanford_Stadium
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Darrell_K. ... al_Stadium
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kyle_Field
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Memorial_Stadium,_Clemson
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donald_W._ ... ck_Stadium
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Faurot_Field
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Citrus_Bowl
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scott_Stadium
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Memorial_S ... Champaign)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mountainee ... ar_Stadium
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mississipp ... al_Stadium
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Papa_John% ... al_Stadium
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Davis_Wade_Stadium
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Folsom_Field
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Franklin_Field
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_Snyde ... ll_Stadium

I could go on, but you get the idea. There are many others I haven't listed. And, believe it or not, every one of those I've listed has a capacity of over 50,000 some of them pushing 100,000.

Aesthetics and character are the main reason many of these stadiums retain such a feature. I think it'll be sensational for Adelaide to have something we too can be proud of. Those with enough good taste to appreciate it, that is.

P.S. the Rose Bowl was originally built in a horseshoe shape too, as seen in this photo from wikipedia.

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#737 Post by Kasey771 » Tue Sep 14, 2010 7:55 pm

anthonydalpra wrote:when are you gonna see some new photos
I'll be thereabouts on Friday, unless someone beats me to the punch:)
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[COM] Re: U/C: Adelaide Oval - Western Grandstand Construction Thr

#738 Post by Tyler_Durden » Tue Sep 14, 2010 8:12 pm

spiller wrote:Will provide some excellent views at night time when AFL games are played there. I think this would just about be closer to buildings of siginifance than any other major sporting stadium in Australia??
I agree. AO is the best located stadium in the country relative to the city it resides in. In fact, its location and surrounds are truly world class. That's the major factor for me in why AO should become our premier stadium for football aswell as cricket. Even the railyards area that is so loved by many as a preferred location is not even in the same league as AO for location.

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#739 Post by Kasey771 » Tue Sep 14, 2010 8:16 pm

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spiller wrote:Will provide some excellent views at night time when AFL games are played there. I think this would just about be closer to buildings of siginifance than any other major sporting stadium in Australia??
I agree. AO is the best located stadium in the country relative to the city it resides in. In fact, its location and surrounds are truly world class. That's the major factor for me in why AO should become our premier stadium for football aswell as cricket. Even the railyards area that is so loved by many as a preferred location is not even in the same league as AO for location.
I think its very important to get that footbridge built from Central Train Station, linking North Tce to AOvia the Festival Centre forecourt! Its surely much cheaper to build a footbridge than the Tram extension to North Adelaide(with a super-stop at AO)
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#740 Post by Tyler_Durden » Tue Sep 14, 2010 8:23 pm

Kasey771 wrote:I think its very important to get that footbridge built from Central Train Station, linking North Tce to AOvia the Festival Centre forecourt! Its surely much cheaper to build a footbridge than the Tram extension to North Adelaide(with a super-stop at AO)
A tram would be pointless. 20,000 people will be moving towards the city after a game. How many can you fit on a tram? And if you miss the first tram it'll be quicker to walk than wait for the second, even if it shuttles back and forth between AO and North Terrace. The walk is really not that far.

I'm not against a footbridge. Although I don't think it should be essential, it can't hurt.

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#741 Post by Kasey771 » Tue Sep 14, 2010 8:32 pm

That's a great post Tyler, i think you only forgot one biggun.. Ohio's "The Horseshoe" seats 102+k
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ohio_Stadium
Funnily considering AO's long hard road to getting flood-light towers, OSU have to truck in lights whenever they host a night game.
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#742 Post by Kasey771 » Tue Sep 14, 2010 8:40 pm

In my mind the tram isn't just for AO, its for O'Connell Street and just happens to service AO as it passes. I think the footbridge is an essential part of the AO/riverbank precinct regardless on if the rest of the redevelopment goes ahead.
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#743 Post by AtD » Tue Sep 14, 2010 8:51 pm

^^ Just a reminder that this is a construction thread. If you want to talk tram ideas, please use the Vision section. Feel free to start a thread there.

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#744 Post by Waewick » Tue Sep 14, 2010 9:18 pm

lolz at people like me who thought it was strange to have a u shape stadium

ignorance is bliss, thanks for the enlightening post

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#745 Post by Wayno » Wed Sep 15, 2010 9:35 am

Tyler_Durden wrote:
ozisnowman wrote:LA has the Rose Bowl, Adelaide will have the Toilet Bowl. This Fugly design needs to be scrapped and
the planned Eastern Stand needs to go all the way around connecting up to each side of the new Western
Stand.
Your problem is you have bad taste.

The open ended north end will be a great feature that will add character and beauty to a stadium that would otherwise be a concrete bowl. It's quite funny you mention the Rose Bowl, used primarily for College Football, because College Football has many many examples of horseshoe shaped stadiums. The USA is full of them.
Agree - no concrete bowl please. Keep the north end open.
Opportunity is missed by most people because it is dressed in overalls and looks like work.

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[COM] Re: Adelaide Oval Redevelopment - General Discussion Thread

#746 Post by rhino » Wed Sep 15, 2010 10:08 am

Wayno wrote:no concrete bowl please. Keep the north end open.
What that man said! (+1)
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#747 Post by Paulns » Wed Sep 15, 2010 10:50 am

Wayno wrote:Do we know for sure that no treatment/covering will be applied to the rear of the stand?
I'm pretty sure thats a no. Check out a picture of the what the stands going to look like at the SACA site here.

http://www.cricketsa.com.au/content.aspx?p=324
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[COM] Re: Adelaide Oval Redevelopment - General Discussion Thread

#748 Post by Isiskii » Wed Sep 15, 2010 11:42 am

I beg to differ. (-1)

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#749 Post by omada » Wed Sep 15, 2010 2:03 pm

+ 1 from me, making a net overall gain of + 1, in your face Isiskii :)

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#750 Post by Wayno » Wed Sep 15, 2010 2:14 pm

omada wrote:+ 1 from me, making a net overall gain of + 1, in your face Isiskii :)
:lol:
Opportunity is missed by most people because it is dressed in overalls and looks like work.

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