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Financing shouldn't be an issue (or at least not for this reason). Whole of ACT is 99 year leases.how good is he wrote: ↑Sun Feb 14, 2021 9:50 pmOk generally thats fair but this is Govt/Crown land. I know Govt could give land leases (ie 99 years) but I expect financing is far harder and private companies more reluctant.
Thanks for sharing that Ben. I’m a bit confused now as to the planned scale of the building as this page of the report shows it spanning two heritage buildings and sitting quite low down, while the other render shows it looking taller and spanning three?
I think you’re probably right. I took this today from one of the heritage buildings (Allied Health Building) and they’ve cleared the land all the way across now:Mpol02 wrote:I see what you’re saying but I think the perspective is off in the image where it spans across two buildings. If you follow the line of perspective it should hit the width of the third building.
Agree ACC is not involved in the actual proposals but the ACC is responsible for the footpath, (the boulevard) - that was my concern raised, to ensure the continuation of the tree lined boulevard and to note there is a conflict in the artists impressions between the two proposals as to what vegetation is on the footpath. We must avoid a native vegetation theme encroachment onto the boulevard - it would be out of place for the reasons I posted about previously in this thread on Feb 4.
Whatever your reasons for thinking it out of place, let's not forget that this area is the frontage of the Australian Indigenous Gallery, regardless of whether or not it fits everyone else's expectations of this boulevard, I think it makes a much more powerful design statement to have an interruption in the overall design specification that considers the indigenous history of this country and Adelaide plain. Besides, the further east you go along North Terrace, this design spec is not continued, nor is it continued along the portion of North Terrace west of KWS. Besides, I for one am happy to not see the use of Plane Trees along an Adelaide CBD median for a change, they're horrible allergenic and they are monotonous comparatively to other options for street trees.
Patrick_27 wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 6:24 pmWhatever your reasons for thinking it out of place, let's not forget that this area is the frontage of the Australian Indigenous Gallery, regardless of whether or not it fits everyone else's expectations of this boulevard, I think it makes a much more powerful design statement to have an interruption in the overall design specification that considers the indigenous history of this country and Adelaide plain. Besides, the further east you go along North Terrace, this design spec is not continued, nor is it continued along the portion of North Terrace west of KWS. Besides, I for one am happy to not see the use of Plane Trees along an Adelaide CBD median for a change, they're horrible allergenic and they are monotonous comparatively to other options for street trees.
One can only hope that your viewpoint is in the minority of the decision makers.Patrick_27 wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 6:24 pmWhatever your reasons for thinking it out of place, let's not forget that this area is the frontage of the Australian Indigenous Gallery, regardless of whether or not it fits everyone else's expectations of this boulevard, I think it makes a much more powerful design statement to have an interruption in the overall design specification that considers the indigenous history of this country and Adelaide plain. Besides, the further east you go along North Terrace, this design spec is not continued, nor is it continued along the portion of North Terrace west of KWS. Besides, I for one am happy to not see the use of Plane Trees along an Adelaide CBD median for a change, they're horrible allergenic and they are monotonous comparatively to other options for street trees.
What, because I actually have some cultural sensitivity and don't want to see a heap of trees from European origin planted in front of a gallery aimed at educating people on Indigenous Australia? Wow, how short-sighted of me! So many of you preach Adelaide's need for originality and progressive-thinking and yet you also cry in instances where banality is not adhered to in the form of bad town planning. Mpol02 is right in his reasoning for being critical of certain developments, and it's becoming ever-present how absolutely clueless some people here are.Bob wrote: ↑Tue Mar 02, 2021 4:40 pmPatrick_27 wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 6:24 pmWhatever your reasons for thinking it out of place, let's not forget that this area is the frontage of the Australian Indigenous Gallery, regardless of whether or not it fits everyone else's expectations of this boulevard, I think it makes a much more powerful design statement to have an interruption in the overall design specification that considers the indigenous history of this country and Adelaide plain. Besides, the further east you go along North Terrace, this design spec is not continued, nor is it continued along the portion of North Terrace west of KWS. Besides, I for one am happy to not see the use of Plane Trees along an Adelaide CBD median for a change, they're horrible allergenic and they are monotonous comparatively to other options for street trees.One can only hope that your viewpoint is in the minority of the decision makers.Patrick_27 wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 6:24 pmWhatever your reasons for thinking it out of place, let's not forget that this area is the frontage of the Australian Indigenous Gallery, regardless of whether or not it fits everyone else's expectations of this boulevard, I think it makes a much more powerful design statement to have an interruption in the overall design specification that considers the indigenous history of this country and Adelaide plain. Besides, the further east you go along North Terrace, this design spec is not continued, nor is it continued along the portion of North Terrace west of KWS. Besides, I for one am happy to not see the use of Plane Trees along an Adelaide CBD median for a change, they're horrible allergenic and they are monotonous comparatively to other options for street trees.
Thank you.Patrick_27 wrote: ↑Tue Mar 02, 2021 5:47 pmWhat, because I actually have some cultural sensitivity and don't want to see a heap of trees from European origin planted in front of a gallery aimed at educating people on Indigenous Australia? Wow, how short-sighted of me! So many of you preach Adelaide's need for originality and progressive-thinking and yet you also cry in instances where banality is not adhered to in the form of bad town planning. Mpol02 is right in his reasoning for being critical of certain developments, and it's becoming ever-present how absolutely clueless some people here are.Bob wrote: ↑Tue Mar 02, 2021 4:40 pmPatrick_27 wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 6:24 pm
Whatever your reasons for thinking it out of place, let's not forget that this area is the frontage of the Australian Indigenous Gallery, regardless of whether or not it fits everyone else's expectations of this boulevard, I think it makes a much more powerful design statement to have an interruption in the overall design specification that considers the indigenous history of this country and Adelaide plain. Besides, the further east you go along North Terrace, this design spec is not continued, nor is it continued along the portion of North Terrace west of KWS. Besides, I for one am happy to not see the use of Plane Trees along an Adelaide CBD median for a change, they're horrible allergenic and they are monotonous comparatively to other options for street trees.One can only hope that your viewpoint is in the minority of the decision makers.Patrick_27 wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 6:24 pm
Whatever your reasons for thinking it out of place, let's not forget that this area is the frontage of the Australian Indigenous Gallery, regardless of whether or not it fits everyone else's expectations of this boulevard, I think it makes a much more powerful design statement to have an interruption in the overall design specification that considers the indigenous history of this country and Adelaide plain. Besides, the further east you go along North Terrace, this design spec is not continued, nor is it continued along the portion of North Terrace west of KWS. Besides, I for one am happy to not see the use of Plane Trees along an Adelaide CBD median for a change, they're horrible allergenic and they are monotonous comparatively to other options for street trees.
North Terrace Boulevard can continue like the photo attached or be completely ruined by introducing the look in the other photo attached which is the native vegetation theme outside the East Gate of the Botanic Gardens on Hackney Road.Patrick_27 wrote: ↑Tue Mar 02, 2021 5:47 pmWhat, because I actually have some cultural sensitivity and don't want to see a heap of trees from European origin planted in front of a gallery aimed at educating people on Indigenous Australia? Wow, how short-sighted of me! So many of you preach Adelaide's need for originality and progressive-thinking and yet you also cry in instances where banality is not adhered to in the form of bad town planning. Mpol02 is right in his reasoning for being critical of certain developments, and it's becoming ever-present how absolutely clueless some people here are.Bob wrote: ↑Tue Mar 02, 2021 4:40 pmPatrick_27 wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 6:24 pm
Whatever your reasons for thinking it out of place, let's not forget that this area is the frontage of the Australian Indigenous Gallery, regardless of whether or not it fits everyone else's expectations of this boulevard, I think it makes a much more powerful design statement to have an interruption in the overall design specification that considers the indigenous history of this country and Adelaide plain. Besides, the further east you go along North Terrace, this design spec is not continued, nor is it continued along the portion of North Terrace west of KWS. Besides, I for one am happy to not see the use of Plane Trees along an Adelaide CBD median for a change, they're horrible allergenic and they are monotonous comparatively to other options for street trees.One can only hope that your viewpoint is in the minority of the decision makers.Patrick_27 wrote: ↑Mon Mar 01, 2021 6:24 pm
Whatever your reasons for thinking it out of place, let's not forget that this area is the frontage of the Australian Indigenous Gallery, regardless of whether or not it fits everyone else's expectations of this boulevard, I think it makes a much more powerful design statement to have an interruption in the overall design specification that considers the indigenous history of this country and Adelaide plain. Besides, the further east you go along North Terrace, this design spec is not continued, nor is it continued along the portion of North Terrace west of KWS. Besides, I for one am happy to not see the use of Plane Trees along an Adelaide CBD median for a change, they're horrible allergenic and they are monotonous comparatively to other options for street trees.
You say ruined, I think that well maintained native plantings like that could look amazing.Bob wrote: ↑Wed Mar 03, 2021 12:16 pmNorth Terrace Boulevard can continue like the photo attached or be completely ruined by introducing the look in the other photo attached which is the native vegetation theme outside the East Gate of the Botanic Gardens on Hackney Road.Patrick_27 wrote: ↑Tue Mar 02, 2021 5:47 pmWhat, because I actually have some cultural sensitivity and don't want to see a heap of trees from European origin planted in front of a gallery aimed at educating people on Indigenous Australia? Wow, how short-sighted of me! So many of you preach Adelaide's need for originality and progressive-thinking and yet you also cry in instances where banality is not adhered to in the form of bad town planning. Mpol02 is right in his reasoning for being critical of certain developments, and it's becoming ever-present how absolutely clueless some people here are.
As I posted on Feb 4, move the proposed building back from the footpath if they want to add a native theme between the footpath and the project, or move the native theme to the proposed courtyard, or move the native theme to the rear of the project, but don't block the footpath from the continual consistent tree planted boulevard theme. You can have both but don't ruin the footpath - that was my point.