News & Developments: Bowden TOD

[abc]

I'm bitter because they stole the market shed and all its businesses from City South

You know the former market shed and plant 3/4 are the same owner right? Relocate is a more applicable word than 'stole'...

yes I know

Bowden stole it from Adelaide

[Patrick_27]

Was at Bowden on the weekend to catch up with some friends, and it was great to see the weekend atmosphere around Plant 3/Plant 4. While they clearly still need more everyday businesses like a pharmacy, post office, and so on, it really did feel like a bustling town square.

Hopefully they and the nearby brewery site can keep growing that feeling, and avoid the temptations to just have a developer build a big shopping center in the way that kills the atmosphere of so many other town centers.

I live nearby and my partner works in Plant 4, I agree it's bustling, but I really think they need to rework some of it, because whilst Bowden Brewery, Bowden Cellars (both in Plant 3) plus My Grandma Ben, Lost Loaf (soon to join Plant 3) and Nutrition Republic are always busy (oftentimes with 40+ minute waits for coffee on weekends); I find there are some businesses that just don't cut it for day trade (or even their limited night trade), and it seems a bit depressing at times that some stalls are roaring whilst others are twiddling their thumbs for customers (reminds me a bit of the former Fisherman's Wharf Market at Port Adelaide in its final years). Like you mention, Bowden is without essential businesses/services like a Post Office/Newsagent, Pharmacy, Medical Centre/General Practise, Dentist, Green Grocer, Butcher etc; Plant 3/4 have a hairdresser, a plant shop (not a florist), a doughnut stall, a gemstone shop/import jewellery stall, and a clothing stall that sells what looks like last seasons offering from Millers. Outside of Plant 3 (across the road there is another hairdresser also. I honestly can say, the hospitality front in Bowden is covered. The new build-to-rent building opposite Plant 4 will have ground-level retail (whether this will include any of these necessary services, who knows. Muse apartments commencing construction in a couple of months will also have a commercial space at the ground level, but that looks to be hospitality oriented. Frankly, what I'd LOVE to see, is a Chapley's Foodland built on the empty block and surrounding buildings bordered by Gibson Street/First Street/Port Road/Park Terrace, with an adjoining medical centre/dentist; befitting of the area, an ideal location in terms of locals commuting via tram or train to work but also a good entry statement into Bowden. As of the IGA in Plant 4, close it and extend the foodcourt to include a butcher, fruit grocer and fish grocer.

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Was at Bowden on the weekend to catch up with some friends, and it was great to see the weekend atmosphere around Plant 3/Plant 4. While they clearly still need more everyday businesses like a pharmacy, post office, and so on, it really did feel like a bustling town square.

Hopefully they and the nearby brewery site can keep growing that feeling, and avoid the temptations to just have a developer build a big shopping center in the way that kills the atmosphere of so many other town centers.

I live nearby and my partner works in Plant 4, I agree it's bustling, but I really think they need to rework some of it, because whilst Bowden Brewery, Bowden Cellars (both in Plant 3) plus My Grandma Ben, Lost Loaf (soon to join Plant 3) and Nutrition Republic are always busy (oftentimes with 40+ minute waits for coffee on weekends); I find there are some businesses that just don't cut it for day trade (or even their limited night trade), and it seems a bit depressing at times that some stalls are roaring whilst others are twiddling their thumbs for customers (reminds me a bit of the former Fisherman's Wharf Market at Port Adelaide in its final years). Like you mention, Bowden is without essential businesses/services like a Post Office/Newsagent, Pharmacy, Medical Centre/General Practise, Dentist, Green Grocer, Butcher etc; Plant 3/4 have a hairdresser, a plant shop (not a florist), a doughnut stall, a gemstone shop/import jewellery stall, and a clothing stall that sells what looks like last seasons offering from Millers. Outside of Plant 3 (across the road there is another hairdresser also. I honestly can say, the hospitality front in Bowden is covered. The new build-to-rent building opposite Plant 4 will have ground-level retail (whether this will include any of these necessary services, who knows. Muse apartments commencing construction in a couple of months will also have a commercial space at the ground level, but that looks to be hospitality oriented. Frankly, what I'd LOVE to see, is a Chapley's Foodland built on the empty block and surrounding buildings bordered by Gibson Street/First Street/Port Road/Park Terrace, with an adjoining medical centre/dentist; befitting of the area, an ideal location in terms of locals commuting via tram or train to work but also a good entry statement into Bowden. As of the IGA in Plant 4, close it and extend the foodcourt to include a butcher, fruit grocer and fish grocer.

There's a Romeo's Foodland less then 2km away at the other end of Hawker Street.
I remember before the housing development between Hawker and Torrens wont went up, they wanted to build a supermarket in there I think possibly a small shopping centre.
Cant remember the exact details but it didn't go ahead, the Foodland (wasn't a Romeos at the time I think it was Violia?) had it stopped, I think they may have petitioned against it.

Perhaps Romeos could do a build there? The Hawker street store is tiny., would be an opportunity for them to expand their footprint and capture the growing population.

[Nathan]

Lost Loaf (soon to join Plant 3)

Tell me more about what's happening here.

The new build-to-rent building opposite Plant 4 will have ground-level retail (whether this will include any of these necessary services, who knows.

It won't. The discussions we had with RenewalSA indicated that this ground level space will be limited, with most of it taken up by administration offices for the building. There's been no effort, aside from organising home delivery from the chemist further up Port Rd, to address any of the short falls in necessary services.

[Mpol02]

When is that Melbourne developer coming in to build their vision? Did they abandon it after Malaka kicked off?

[Nathan]

When is that Melbourne developer coming in to build their vision? Did they abandon it after Malaka kicked off?

MAB? They've been working on remediation of the Gasworks site, which should be significantly done by the end of the year. Once that's done, we'll see more concrete plans for stage 1 (which will be the area closest to Drayton St)

If anyone is interested, RenewalSA are holding some walking tours later in September. Tour 3 presumably will cover what's happening with the Gasworks site

Walking tour 1 - Bowden through the ages
Walking tour 2 - Bowden's sustainability journey
Walking tour 3 - Building Bowden (current and future construction)
Walking tour 4 - Designing Bowden

[A-Town]

When is that Melbourne developer coming in to build their vision? Did they abandon it after Malaka kicked off?

Not abandoned, but significantly delayed for no real reason other than Malaka's political point-scoring.

A real kick in the teeth during a housing crisis.

[Patrick_27]

Crane base in place for the affordable apartment build on the corner of Second and Gibson Street(s), piling has also well and truly commenced. Tried to get a photo but workers were still around and interestingly there are signs all around the construction site prohibiting photography and videography?

[SouthAussie94]

Crane base in place for the affordable apartment build on the corner of Second and Gibson Street(s), piling has also well and truly commenced. Tried to get a photo but workers were still around and interestingly there are signs all around the construction site prohibiting photography and videography?

If you're in a public space, they can't really prohibit you from taking photos or videos.

Workers on sites are often not allowed to take photos or videos which is reasonable, but a member of the public walking past? Good luck to them if they tried

[Mpol02]

When is that Melbourne developer coming in to build their vision? Did they abandon it after Malaka kicked off?

MAB? They've been working on remediation of the Gasworks site, which should be significantly done by the end of the year. Once that's done, we'll see more concrete plans for stage 1 (which will be the area closest to Drayton St)

If anyone is interested, RenewalSA are holding some walking tours later in September. Tour 3 presumably will cover what's happening with the Gasworks site

Walking tour 1 - Bowden through the ages
Walking tour 2 - Bowden's sustainability journey
Walking tour 3 - Building Bowden (current and future construction)
Walking tour 4 - Designing Bowden

Thanks for clarifying I like their proposal I hope it happens

[mattblack]

When is that Melbourne developer coming in to build their vision? Did they abandon it after Malaka kicked off?

Not abandoned, but significantly delayed for no real reason other than Malaka's political point-scoring.

A real kick in the teeth during a housing crisis.

Do you actually have evidence of Malinauskas persnally interviening in the development approval or withholding funding for his own political gains?? Sure the reporters that frequent this site would make that front page news in a nanosecond. He would be in massive trouble. Sadly, I think they might need to find a alternative headline for now.

[Llessur2002]

Article from today's Advertiser about increased building heights for the gasworks site. Not sure how many of these renders (if any) are new or revised.

Four towers up to 12 storeys for Brompton Gasworks under plan to lift maximum building heights

Four towers up to 12 storeys high – two for apartments – would be built on the old Brompton Gasworks site under newly released plans for a high-density housing development on the site.


Artist impression for the proposed housing development at the Brompton gasworks site, for more than 800 homes.

In total, 11 buildings are part of the plans to renew the site in Adelaide’s inner-north, which was sold to Victorian developers MAB by Renewal SA, instead of becoming the Adelaide Crows new HQ, in 2022.

A proposal to lift building heights for the site from 10 to 12 storeys was released for public consultation on Wednesday. A report says doing so would increase open space at the 800-home development.


Artist impression for the proposed housing development at the Brompton gasworks site, for more than 800 homes.

The masterplan includes 151 townhouses, four apartment blocks, 2100sq m retail building, a 9000sq m office building and 120-room hotel. A commercial and retail zone would incorporate a piazza surrounded by cafes, restaurants and bars.


Artist impression for the proposed housing development at the Brompton gasworks site, for more than 800 homes. Existing gasworks structures such as the chimney would be retained.


Artist impression for the proposed housing development at the Brompton gasworks site, for more than 800 homes.

It also features more than 200 affordable units, 340 two-bedroom units and 45 three-bedroom units.

About 25 per cent of open space would be created, with plans to reuse the old gasworks tunnels and other heritage-listed structures, such as the still-standing gasworks chimney, in green landscaped areas that includes walkways and bike paths.


Artist impression for the proposed housing development at the Brompton gasworks site, for more than 800 homes.

It also features more than 200 affordable units, 340 two-bedroom units and 45 three-bedroom units.

About 25 per cent of open space would be created, with plans to reuse the old gasworks tunnels and other heritage-listed structures, such as the still-standing gasworks chimney, in green landscaped areas that includes walkways and bike paths.

A new ‘Plan X’ is part of the latest change, with plans revealing overshadowing could be a problem along Drayton St, where residences are also most likely to experience overshadowing.

A building up to six storeys along that street is planned to reduce overshadowing for neighbours.


Artist impression for the proposed housing development at the Brompton gasworks site, for more than 800 homes.

The report says overshadowing caused by the development should be “considered reasonable and expected”.

It also states there are existing buildings in the area that have hit 12 storeys.

The development would place the taller buildings “along the central parkland-style boulevard” to lessen the impact on surrounding neighbours.

It comes as developers seek to build a 20-storey apartment tower at Glenside, and a five-storey medical building was approved for Kensington Rd.








Artist impressions for the proposed housing development at the Brompton gasworks site, for more than 800 homes.

The site has had extensive soil remediation to fix contamination, with nearly 40,000sq m of clean fill used as a capping layer across the entire site.

When it was announced in 2022, MAB Corporation said it planned to restore former gasworks structures and tunnels across the heritage site.


The Brompton Gasworks site in Adelaide, as it looks now.


A map showing proposed building heights for the Brompton Gasworks site.

The commercial and retail space, featuring an Employment Hub, will flow across about 11,500sq m – four times larger than Bowden’s Plant 3 and Plant 4 combined.

The development will house an estimated 2200 residents once completed.

In 2022, MAB said it would invest more than $459m into the precinct, with an average of 190 construction jobs supported over the site’s 10-year development.

A further 730 to 1000 ongoing jobs are expected once the rejuvenation has been completed.

From: https://www.adelaidenow.com.au/news/sou ... 54dbba8dda

[Nathan]

Story is a bit misleading.

Plans haven't changed, this is pretty much what's been intended since the original vision was released — what is happening is that some changes need to be made to the code in order to allow what is within the plan, and the process for that mandates that it needs to go out for community feedback (all locals would have had a mail drop from URPS earlier this week).

[Llessur2002]

Story is a bit misleading.

Plans haven't changed, this is pretty much what's been intended since the original vision was released — what is happening is that some changes need to be made to the code in order to allow what is within the plan, and the process for that mandates that it needs to go out for community feedback (all locals would have had a mail drop from URPS earlier this week).

Ah fair enough, thought the renders all looked pretty familiar.

Over the last decade I've passed the gasworks site several times a week either via bike or train and it'll be great to see construction finally commence.

[Patrick_27]

Answer my earlier queries re: a full fledged supermarket, looks like there will be one at the ground level of one of these new buildings.