Re: News & Developments: Port Adelaide
Posted: Tue Jan 22, 2019 4:59 pm
I agree with your sentiment, but not sure about using Bowden as your example as there is much that has/is being retained.
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I agree with your sentiment, but not sure about using Bowden as your example as there is much that has/is being retained.
I think the point is that the exterior won't be changed (not to say it might not need some restoration work and a clean). Perhaps they'll remove some of the rooftop structures but I presume the rest will stay largely as is.
City of Adelaide ship deadline approaches, Buffalo replica to be demolished
Eugene Boisvert and Chris McLoughlin, 30 January 2019, ABC News Online
Hopes of securing the future of two of South Australia's most iconic wooden boats are sinking, with one facing certain demolition and the other effectively adrift.
Key points:
The City of Adelaide clipper ship brought thousands of migrants to SA
Its hull was brought to Port Adelaide in 2014 but has not found a permanent home
The Buffalo, another iconic "boat", will be demolished
The world's oldest clipper ship, the City of Adelaide, is fast approaching a deadline to move from a Port Adelaide development site.
But the well-known Buffalo at Glenelg in Adelaide's west is facing an even more definite fate, and will be reduced to rubble next week.
The HMS Buffalo replica, which was built in 1980 and operated as a restaurant, fell into disrepair in recent years.
While not a real boat, it has long sat in shallow waters alongside the Patawalonga River, and its design imitates the ship which brought the first batch of European settlers to South Australia in 1836.
In 2017, the council approved an application by an Adelaide businessman for a $1 million redevelopment of the Buffalo.
Despite those plans, the City of Holdfast Bay has approved an application for its demolition.
City of Holdfast Bay Mayor Amanda Wilson told the ABC she believed the final cost would have been higher.
"The further he got into the development process he realised that it was going to be much more expensive than envisaged," Ms Wilson said.
She said the Buffalo's appeal to diners had also diminished.
"Looking at the way people go out these days it's not the same as what was happening in the 80s," she said.
"The Buffalo was very much a novelty dining experience in the 80s and it was before we had the Holdfast Marina, the pier, the alfresco dining in Moseley Square, so people's tastes have changed."
Deadline for clipper fast approaching
Meanwhile, South Australian Transport Minister Stephan Knoll has given the owners of the 155-year-old City of Adelaide until March to move it from Dock One to another part of the harbour known as "Dock 2" in Port Adelaide.
The City of Adelaide clipper ship in her new location closer to the Pt Adelaide lighthouse
PHOTO: The City of Adelaide clipper ship at Dock One in Port Adelaide. (ABC Radio Adelaide)
It is situated on the northern side of the Tom 'Diver' Derrick Bridge over the Port River and is difficult to access from the historic part of Port Adelaide.
However, City of Adelaide Preservation Trust director Peter Christopher would rather the ship be moved to a regional city or interstate than to such an "inaccessible" location.
The group led a 14-year campaign to get the ship's hull returned to Port Adelaide before it was placed on a barge at Dock One in 2014, where it has remained ever since.
The ship brought thousands of migrants to South Australia in the 19th century but was left to rot on the banks of a Scottish river for decades.
Starfish Developments wants the ship moved before it starts promoting 750 home sites for sale next to Dock One in February.
Managing director Damon Nagel told the ABC more than 400 jobs were at stake.
He said the State Government sold his company the Dock One land with the understanding the City of Adelaide would be moved "months ago".
"You could argue Port Adelaide isn't actually the greatest suburb in Adelaide and it needs development to get going and this ship is single-handedly stopping it," Mr Nagel said.
"People… buy down there because they want a view of the water and the other side of Dock One.
"It's just not appropriate for a ship of that size to be in that residential environment."
He said the ship and related "paraphernalia" on the dock were at "ground zero" of the development, stopping initial works for stormwater, sewerage and power going ahead.
"The trust owners I think are being difficult in the sense they've got an unbelievable offer from the Government," he said.
Earlier this month, Mr Knoll said the land at "Dock 2" was the only site the Government had to give away in Port Adelaide.
Mr Knoll gave Mr Christopher's group a March deadline to move the ship during meetings on December 21, 2018, and on January 4 this year.
"All the other parts of the inner harbour have been sold off by the former government for housing development, so we're working with them to identify what bits of land we have," Mr Knoll said.
"But we can't compulsorily acquire someone else's land to stick the ship on so we have to work on the opportunities we have available."
Trust considering its options
Mr Christopher said the clipper could move to the offered site in the long-term, "subject to a number of conditions, including a road being put in so people could find it".
"Dock 2 is virtually inaccessible," Mr Christopher told ABC Radio Adelaide today.
"It's an industrial wasteland. Nobody could find it even if they had a map to show them there.
"So if the ship were to go there in a temporary situation, it would just be lost."
He said the trust was against being forcibly moved by March, and said the Government had shown a "lack of interest" in the historic boat.
Port Augusta in SA's north has previously expressed interest in the vessel.
Aquariums don't make money. I've said it before, move the clipper onto dry land and inside the market shed, build a new maritime museum around it... This then puts the lighthouse even closer to the museum.SRW wrote: ↑Thu Jan 31, 2019 12:47 pmThis is so disappointing. It was such a coup to get the City of Adelaide here, and it could be such a saleable attraction to the heritage of the Port, but the government is content to just put it out of sight and out of mind and let it return to rotting. IMO the vacant site at the corner of McLaren Parade & Lipson Street (adjacent to Lighthouse square) should be acquired and turned into an aquarium/maritime attraction.City of Adelaide ship deadline approaches, Buffalo replica to be demolished
Eugene Boisvert and Chris McLoughlin, 30 January 2019, ABC News Online
Hopes of securing the future of two of South Australia's most iconic wooden boats are sinking, with one facing certain demolition and the other effectively adrift.
Key points:
The City of Adelaide clipper ship brought thousands of migrants to SA
Its hull was brought to Port Adelaide in 2014 but has not found a permanent home
The Buffalo, another iconic "boat", will be demolished
The world's oldest clipper ship, the City of Adelaide, is fast approaching a deadline to move from a Port Adelaide development site.
But the well-known Buffalo at Glenelg in Adelaide's west is facing an even more definite fate, and will be reduced to rubble next week.
The HMS Buffalo replica, which was built in 1980 and operated as a restaurant, fell into disrepair in recent years.
While not a real boat, it has long sat in shallow waters alongside the Patawalonga River, and its design imitates the ship which brought the first batch of European settlers to South Australia in 1836.
In 2017, the council approved an application by an Adelaide businessman for a $1 million redevelopment of the Buffalo.
Despite those plans, the City of Holdfast Bay has approved an application for its demolition.
City of Holdfast Bay Mayor Amanda Wilson told the ABC she believed the final cost would have been higher.
"The further he got into the development process he realised that it was going to be much more expensive than envisaged," Ms Wilson said.
She said the Buffalo's appeal to diners had also diminished.
"Looking at the way people go out these days it's not the same as what was happening in the 80s," she said.
"The Buffalo was very much a novelty dining experience in the 80s and it was before we had the Holdfast Marina, the pier, the alfresco dining in Moseley Square, so people's tastes have changed."
Deadline for clipper fast approaching
Meanwhile, South Australian Transport Minister Stephan Knoll has given the owners of the 155-year-old City of Adelaide until March to move it from Dock One to another part of the harbour known as "Dock 2" in Port Adelaide.
The City of Adelaide clipper ship in her new location closer to the Pt Adelaide lighthouse
PHOTO: The City of Adelaide clipper ship at Dock One in Port Adelaide. (ABC Radio Adelaide)
It is situated on the northern side of the Tom 'Diver' Derrick Bridge over the Port River and is difficult to access from the historic part of Port Adelaide.
However, City of Adelaide Preservation Trust director Peter Christopher would rather the ship be moved to a regional city or interstate than to such an "inaccessible" location.
The group led a 14-year campaign to get the ship's hull returned to Port Adelaide before it was placed on a barge at Dock One in 2014, where it has remained ever since.
The ship brought thousands of migrants to South Australia in the 19th century but was left to rot on the banks of a Scottish river for decades.
Starfish Developments wants the ship moved before it starts promoting 750 home sites for sale next to Dock One in February.
Managing director Damon Nagel told the ABC more than 400 jobs were at stake.
He said the State Government sold his company the Dock One land with the understanding the City of Adelaide would be moved "months ago".
"You could argue Port Adelaide isn't actually the greatest suburb in Adelaide and it needs development to get going and this ship is single-handedly stopping it," Mr Nagel said.
"People… buy down there because they want a view of the water and the other side of Dock One.
"It's just not appropriate for a ship of that size to be in that residential environment."
He said the ship and related "paraphernalia" on the dock were at "ground zero" of the development, stopping initial works for stormwater, sewerage and power going ahead.
"The trust owners I think are being difficult in the sense they've got an unbelievable offer from the Government," he said.
Earlier this month, Mr Knoll said the land at "Dock 2" was the only site the Government had to give away in Port Adelaide.
Mr Knoll gave Mr Christopher's group a March deadline to move the ship during meetings on December 21, 2018, and on January 4 this year.
"All the other parts of the inner harbour have been sold off by the former government for housing development, so we're working with them to identify what bits of land we have," Mr Knoll said.
"But we can't compulsorily acquire someone else's land to stick the ship on so we have to work on the opportunities we have available."
Trust considering its options
Mr Christopher said the clipper could move to the offered site in the long-term, "subject to a number of conditions, including a road being put in so people could find it".
"Dock 2 is virtually inaccessible," Mr Christopher told ABC Radio Adelaide today.
"It's an industrial wasteland. Nobody could find it even if they had a map to show them there.
"So if the ship were to go there in a temporary situation, it would just be lost."
He said the trust was against being forcibly moved by March, and said the Government had shown a "lack of interest" in the historic boat.
Port Augusta in SA's north has previously expressed interest in the vessel.
With Shed 26...the developer bought it in full knowledge (one would hope) of the asbestos issue with the roof, and published numerous site mockups with the shed in situ and even one with a brand new downsized mirroring structure right next to it. They either got their sums wrong or were deliberately misleading about their intentions upon purchase. It was only late last year that they revealed the plan to demolish it. Whether they demolish or develop though they’ll have to remove the asbestos and bear the cost of that regardless. If the current provisional heritage listing gets made permanent they’ll have to develop or simply leave it to rust and disintegrate - not a good look smack bang in the middle of their development. Will be interesting to see their submission to the Heritage Council. My point about government negligence though is that Renewalhow good is he wrote: ↑Fri Feb 01, 2019 11:36 amI agree with all said except with the Shed 26 point. There are costings of $10m to remove asbestos/restore the shed etc and the developer has stopped and is open to community proposals etc ie put up the money and we will keep it and/or show us how it can be viable. Its now a case of those that are wanting to keep it to raise the funds ie ask council/govt etc. With the Buffalo its amusing once its gone it will leave an old red rattler tram suiting a prime waterfront location, not.
Six new restaurants to open in Port Adelaide
DEVELOPMENT The first stage of the new $45 million Port Adelaide Plaza shopping centre – the biggest retail development in the Port in four decades – is set to open soon with new restaurants and cafes.
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Excellent.The first stage of the new $45 million Port Adelaide Plaza shopping centre is set to open in April with six restaurants.
Oh...The Funk Coffee franchise...
I Follow PAFC wrote: ↑Mon Feb 25, 2019 5:45 pmSix new restaurants to open in Port Adelaide
DEVELOPMENT The first stage of the new $45 million Port Adelaide Plaza shopping centre – the biggest retail development in the Port in four decades – is set to open soon with new restaurants and cafes.
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First stage of $45 million Port Adelaide Plaza to open in April with six restaurants and cafes
Caleb Bond, Portside Weekly Messenger
February 25, 2019 1:34pm
The first stage of the new $45 million Port Adelaide Plaza shopping centre is set to open in April with six restaurants.
Precision Group – which owns the centre – last week confirmed it had already signed on three restaurants to join a new outdoor dining precinct on the eastern side of the building and was in talks with other outfits.
The Funk Coffee franchise, Yiros Central and Shanghai Teahouse, which has a popular restaurant at Burnside Village, were set to be part of the centre’s first stage.
The three remaining vacancies are expected to be filled with Asian or burger-style restaurants.
All this food-inspired action is aimed predominantly at nearby office workers – many of whom recently moved to the Port as part of a public service relocation – who want a quick lunch.
It also offers after-work dining, with licensed restaurants open until about 9pm.
Shanghai Teahouse will sell its own Chinese teas and focus on light foods such as dumplings, while Funk Coffee plans on operating as a cafe.
Yiros Central is a local business that already has outlets at the Brickworks and in the city.
Precision Group spokeswoman Alisha Daniels expects the shopping centre – previously named Port Canal – will cash in on a recent resurgence of restaurants and bars in Port Adelaide.
Artist impression of the new Port Adelaide Plaza shopping centre. Photo: Supplied by Precision Group.
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“The Port Adelaide demographic is growing day by day with all the residential developments taking place and with Techport workers and office workers,” Ms Daniels says.
“We’re really trying to reach a new demographic.”
Work on the new shopping centre began late last year and is running to schedule.
At the project’s completion, the shopping centre’s footprint will have grown by more than a third – expanding from 19,000sq m to just under 30,000sq m.
The number of shops will grow from 28 to 60.
They will include an Aldi supermarket, a childcare centre, medical centre, bank and Australia Post, as well as 1000 free parking spaces.
It is the most significant retail development in Port Adelaide in four decades.