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Omicron wrote:

Cruise wrote:

Omicron wrote: And stop that Omi fellow from ranting on about Formula One in a Memorial Drive thread!

yeah im as guilty as you, you and I should start a thread about car racing, im sure that would keep us very entertained lol

We should not apologise for the appreciation of fine events.

Well we will have to agree to love F1, I'm sure that will be hard

SRW wrote:

JamesXander wrote:If I were Premier of South Australia one of the things I would investigae would be the establishment of an Aquarium at Glenelg.

PPP agreement could be struck. A top Knotch aquarium specializing in Southern marine life such as Dolphins and seals. Also alot of information on Sharks and Whales. It would be a massive exercise but alot of tourists go to Glenelg and I can see it being a smash hit if they actually spend some capital on it.

I've suggested a couple times on this website before that I think a aquarium would be best suited to Port Adelaide. Build it in conjunction with the redevelopment, and give the city a much-needed scientific institution.

An investigator science centre in the city, or at Science Park next to Flinders Uni (perhaps built in conjunction with a Tonsley interchange) would be nice too.

One can dream...

We used to have a Marineland in Adelaide, but it was poorly patronised and closed in the early '90s. We used to have a lot of things that closed, does anyone know what happened in Adelaide that saw a lot of places close their doors, instead of expanding and renewing like they did in other places to develop into large theme parks and their like? Was it a series of depressions, or something like that?

monotonehell wrote:We used to have a lot of things that closed, does anyone know what happened in Adelaide that saw a lot of places close their doors, instead of expanding and renewing like they did in other places to develop into large theme parks and their like? Was it a series of depressions, or something like that?

I suspect it was our reasonably small population base coupled with the fact that we never really promoted ourselves interstate or overseas until relatively recently. Once the limited number of people in Adelaide had been to, say, Marineland, they weren't in a hurry to go there again, so the patronage dropped, reducing income/available funds, it was not being promoted outside the state, and eventually there were not enough coins in the purse for an upgrade, so even fewer people returned because it had become shabby.

monotonehell wrote:We used to have a lot of things that closed, does anyone know what happened in Adelaide that saw a lot of places close their doors, instead of expanding and renewing like they did in other places to develop into large theme parks and their like? Was it a series of depressions, or something like that?

You can probably hang a chunk of blame on the State Bank fiasco...

Wayno wrote:

monotonehell wrote:We used to have a lot of things that closed, does anyone know what happened in Adelaide that saw a lot of places close their doors, instead of expanding and renewing like they did in other places to develop into large theme parks and their like? Was it a series of depressions, or something like that?

You can probably hang a chunk of blame on the State Bank fiasco...

You know I'm starting to suspect that the State Bank Fiasco was a scapegoat used to blame for a lot of things....

"Yes we have to cut your arms off"
"WHY!?"
"Oh you know... State Bank Fiasco.."
"Oh .. I see..." *offers arms*

Wayno wrote:

monotonehell wrote:We used to have a lot of things that closed, does anyone know what happened in Adelaide that saw a lot of places close their doors, instead of expanding and renewing like they did in other places to develop into large theme parks and their like? Was it a series of depressions, or something like that?

You can probably hang a chunk of blame on the State Bank fiasco...

I don't think so. Some things just run their course. Take the National Motor Museum for example. It's grown and grown, and is still growing, but it's going to reach a point where there will be nothing new for it to add, and unless it heads in a completely new direction (say, offering drives of renovated FJs or GTHOs on a privately owned track out the back of the museum), patronage is eventually going to slow down. The fact that SA (and the motor museum too, for that matter)is now promoting itself outside the state is going to keep the patrons coming for longer than those enterprises of the 1960s and70s that relied solely on our small population for survival.

monotonehell wrote: You know I'm starting to suspect that the State Bank Fiasco was a scapegoat used to blame for a lot of things....

I'm with you on that one.

No, the State Bank collapse and the recession in the early 90's combined to close a lot of shops and entertainment venues at that time. To think otherwise either shows you weren't around when it happened or you don't realise just how severe that situation was for SA at a time when manufacturing was rapidly being taken overseas.

Times have thankfully changed but you never know what may be around the corner. Hopefully a continued mining/defence boom, but who really knows what may happen in that time.

UrbanSG wrote:No, the State Bank collapse and the recession in the early 90's combined to close a lot of shops and entertainment venues at that time. To think otherwise either shows you weren't around when it happened or you don't realise just how severe that situation was for SA at a time when manufacturing was rapidly being taken overseas.

This IS the case. My brother, a CFO of a large firm of 1200 people (with HQ in Adelaide), has filled me in on this one. He was an accountant at the time in Adelaide and dealt with many financial organisations.

Back to the thread topic - wiould love to see a render of this. Was looking at a city map and I wonderedc just where the two ends of the bridge would be. Any clues anyone?

ADELAIDE - TOWARDS A GREATER CITY SKYLINE

UrbanSG wrote:No, the State Bank collapse and the recession in the early 90's combined to close a lot of shops and entertainment venues at that time. To think otherwise either shows you weren't around when it happened or you don't realise just how severe that situation was for SA at a time when manufacturing was rapidly being taken overseas.

Times have thankfully changed but you never know what may be around the corner. Hopefully a continued mining/defence boom, but who really knows what may happen in that time.

It was a detrimental event, but the rest of Asia went through similar times (look at all the abandoned theme parks in Japan as an example of the fall out) so I don't know if we can place all the blame on the State Bank. It did bring down a government, and it did cause financial tremors throughout the state, but I'm starting to think that it wasn't solely to blame looking at what happened in the rest of the country and region.


Skyliner: there's a placement diagram and an early render earlier in this thread.

SRW wrote:

JamesXander wrote:If I were Premier of South Australia one of the things I would investigae would be the establishment of an Aquarium at Glenelg.

PPP agreement could be struck. A top Knotch aquarium specializing in Southern marine life such as Dolphins and seals. Also alot of information on Sharks and Whales. It would be a massive exercise but alot of tourists go to Glenelg and I can see it being a smash hit if they actually spend some capital on it.

I've suggested a couple times on this website before that I think a aquarium would be best suited to Port Adelaide. Build it in conjunction with the redevelopment, and give the city a much-needed scientific institution.

An investigator science centre in the city, or at Science Park next to Flinders Uni (perhaps built in conjunction with a Tonsley interchange) would be nice too.

One can dream...

No Glenelg is our main tourist location, and in order to acheive a viable and good attraction (Aquarium) it would have to be located at our main tourist location. Glenelg would work great. Perhaps it could be run by the Adelaide Zoo Corporation (or whatever they are called). With Monarto, Adelaide Zoo and the Aquarium they would have the money power to keep refreshing their facilties.

Port Adelaide just wouldn't work, I wouldn't go to Port Adelaide just for an Aquarium. Port Adelaide is a dump.

JamesXander wrote:Port Adelaide just wouldn't work, I wouldn't go to Port Adelaide just for an Aquarium. Port Adelaide is a dump.

If the Hassell / Port Adelaide Vision design framework is implemented, the Port has the potential to be the jewel in Adelaide's crown, with
or without an aquarium. ( http://www.the-port.com.au/pccg/downloa ... mework.pdf )

Xaragmata wrote:

JamesXander wrote:Port Adelaide just wouldn't work, I wouldn't go to Port Adelaide just for an Aquarium. Port Adelaide is a dump.

If the Hassell / Port Adelaide Vision design framework is implemented, the Port has the potential to be the jewel in Adelaide's crown, with
or without an aquarium. ( http://www.the-port.com.au/pccg/downloa ... mework.pdf )

It may become a jewel in the crown for the developers, but I'm not too sure about it being a cultural jewel. Yes, Port Adelaide has so much potential, just like Riverbank if the right buildings, bridges, etc., go up and the art and cultural aspects retained or implemented. I am disappointed that a Memorial Drive upgrade wasn't done long ago. That may have helped us keep the the Australian Men's Hardcourt Championships (SA Open) here. They could have also used the place for concerts, basketball, volleyball and many other indoor events. Of course parking would have to be a concern with it mostly going underground. Transport too would have to be improved with the possibility of the tram extension to Adelaide Oval and into North Adelaide. The footbridge is an excellent idea but it has to be coupled to more people using Riverbank and extending the cultural and entertainment precinct all the way past the Morphett Street Bridge. Placing the new 'Marj' hospital there would be a mistake. A tram extension should also go to the National Wine Centre and possibly further taking over the O-bahn to Tea Tree Plaza. A National Beer Centre envisioned by some of you could be housed in the old tram building or built where the rose gardens are in an iconic building. The rose gardens could be relocated on the other side of the Botanical Gardens on Frome Road (just a suggestion - as plants can be easily moved, but buildings not). Any other ideas?

Cheers

JamesXander wrote: <snip>
Port Adelaide is a dump.

I think you mean slowly blossoming suburb - right?

Stop mincing your words, James.