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Ho Really
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by Ho Really » Mon Feb 04, 2008 3:23 pm
Edgar wrote:There is nothing wrong about night race, and in F1, Singapore is set to hold the world's first night race for F1. Of course for a city that never sleeps like Singapore, it is possible. For a nation that is dying to host an international event, it is possible. A nation that is so wealthy, it is possible. A nation with very little NIMBY's association, it is possible.
Just a side note. What little NIMBY associations? Are you kidding? Singapore just falls short of full-on dictatorship...
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by Ho Really » Mon Feb 04, 2008 3:37 pm
Seriously. Adelaide (SA) if it really wanted to could still stage a F1 event here. We've held the American Le Mans race here at night. We only staged it once, I know, because we stuffed-up our chances for following ones, but it doesn't mean we're incapable of staging something at night and lit. Major issue is economics. Our government would have to underwrite it and then we would have to find a decent high-paying sponsor. The grandstand in Victoria Park is only a small issue. It has already been circumvented (just look at this year's Clipsal 500), but who knows, if it's tied in with a Britannia Roundabout solution (see appropriate thread:
Solving the Britannia Roundabout Mess), you never know it may even eventuate.
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by Tyler_Durden » Mon Feb 04, 2008 4:36 pm
What does a city/state lose when hosting the F1 these days? I could be wrong but I think I remember hearing Melbourne lose about $50 Mill currently. Sure it's a lot of money but no amount of advertising could buy the kind of exposure that an F1 race brings to a city. It's worth every cent in my opinion.
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by JamesXander » Mon Feb 04, 2008 9:31 pm
Exactly. It would also help our immigration out a BLOODY truck load. People would recognise the name.
Adelaide, OHHHHH thats where that sweet as F1 race is! And Jacobs Creek. HAHAH I WANT TO LIVE THERE
One would only hope.
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by Omicron » Mon Feb 04, 2008 10:53 pm
I would sooner see a massive injection of funds into the Adelaide Festival and Fringe Festival before any consideration whatsoever of a bid for the Grand Prix, and that's coming from a car lover.
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by Ho Really » Tue Feb 05, 2008 9:39 am
JamesXander wrote:Exactly. It would also help our immigration out a BLOODY truck load. People would recognise the name.
Adelaide, OHHHHH thats where that sweet as F1 race is! And Jacobs Creek. HAHAH I WANT TO LIVE THERE
How many extra immigrants did the ten years of GPs bring us? Mmmh...
Tyler_Durden wrote:What does a city/state lose when hosting the F1 these days? I could be wrong but I think I remember hearing Melbourne lose about $50 Mill currently. Sure it's a lot of money but no amount of advertising could buy the kind of exposure that an F1 race brings to a city. It's worth every cent in my opinion.
It is good advertising. It will not bring us many more immigrants than we're already getting but it will bring more tourists and tourism money.
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by Edgar » Tue Feb 05, 2008 10:04 am
Ho Really wrote:Edgar wrote:There is nothing wrong about night race, and in F1, Singapore is set to hold the world's first night race for F1. Of course for a city that never sleeps like Singapore, it is possible. For a nation that is dying to host an international event, it is possible. A nation that is so wealthy, it is possible. A nation with very little NIMBY's association, it is possible.
Just a side note. What little NIMBY associations? Are you kidding? Singapore just falls short of full-on dictatorship...
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Which turned out to be a good thing don't you think so?
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by Edgar » Tue Feb 05, 2008 10:06 am
Ho Really wrote:JamesXander wrote:Exactly. It would also help our immigration out a BLOODY truck load. People would recognise the name.
Adelaide, OHHHHH thats where that sweet as F1 race is! And Jacobs Creek. HAHAH I WANT TO LIVE THERE
How many extra immigrants did the ten years of GPs bring us? Mmmh...
Tyler_Durden wrote:What does a city/state lose when hosting the F1 these days? I could be wrong but I think I remember hearing Melbourne lose about $50 Mill currently. Sure it's a lot of money but no amount of advertising could buy the kind of exposure that an F1 race brings to a city. It's worth every cent in my opinion.
It is good advertising. It will not bring us many more immigrants than we're already getting but it will bring more tourists and tourism money.
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Yes, Ho Really is right, holding major international events will not secure the possibilities of increase in migrants.
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by Edgar » Tue Feb 05, 2008 10:08 am
Tyler_Durden wrote:What does a city/state lose when hosting the F1 these days? I could be wrong but I think I remember hearing Melbourne lose about $50 Mill currently. Sure it's a lot of money but no amount of advertising could buy the kind of exposure that an F1 race brings to a city. It's worth every cent in my opinion.
You lost nothing, it is a good advertising that's for sure, but could a state so fragile in their economics and budget (at the moment, and I believe in a few more years to come) afford that sort of amount?
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by Brando » Sun Feb 10, 2008 12:55 am
Knew this was going to happen. Thanks Melbourne
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February 10, 2008 12:10am
FORMULA One chief Bernie Ecclestone has slammed the door on Melbourne's chances of retaining the Grand Prix.
Days after revealing the race was all but over, Mr Ecclestone said there was now no chance it would be held in Melbourne after 2010.
The Victorian Government this week responded to pressure on the race's future by confirming it would not consider hosting the Albert Park event at night.
Mr Ecclestone said that decision effectively severed Australia's 23-year record of hosting the international event, which originated in Adelaide.
But lone Formula One star Mark Webber has urged the Brumby Government to embrace a night Grand Prix and save Melbourne from losing the event.
Webber said the Grand Prix was crucial to Melbourne's international reputation and the Government had to accept change to salvage it.
"We should fight to have a night race," he said.
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by Cruise » Sun Feb 10, 2008 1:07 am
Bernie Ecclestone is a greedy pig.
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by Brando » Sun Feb 10, 2008 1:08 am
From the Herald Sun.
Peter Rolfe, State political reporter
February 10, 2008 12:00am
FORMULA One chief Bernie Ecclestone has slammed the door on Melbourne's chances of retaining the Grand Prix.
Days after telling the Sunday Herald Sun the race was in doubt, Mr Ecclestone said there was no chance it would be in Melbourne after 2010.
The Brumby Government confirmed it would not run the Albert Park event at night, something Mr Ecclestone says is non-negotiable.
He said the Government's stance would effectively end 25 years of the event in Australia. But Australian F1 star Mark Webber urged the Brumby Government to embrace a night Grand Prix to save the Melbourne event.
Webber said the Grand Prix was crucial to Melbourne's international reputation, but "you can't constantly keep having the same toys in the sand pit".
"If it is an ultimatum of being night or not at all, there is a big decision to be made," he said.
The Singapore Grand Prix, under lights for the first time in September, could be a testing ground for Melbourne.
"We should try to make night work . . . it could be exactly what the event needs -- who knows?" Webber said.
If Melbourne loses the Grand Prix, Australia will be without F1 exposure for the first time since 1985.
Mr Ecclestone said if the event was to continue in Melbourne beyond 2010 it had to be at night
"I think it would be good for the public, good for the restaurants, good for everything. There is no downside to it," he said.
Government spokesman George Svigos reiterated yesterday that a night race would not happen.
"The Government's position is that there will not be a night race," he said.
Mr Svigos said Premier John Brumby had made it clear negotiations for the Grand Prix would be staged this year.
"The Government believes it is a good event for Melbourne. We fully support the Grand Prix," he said.
But Mr Ecclestone said a daylight Melbourne race was not up for discussion.
"I'm sure Melbourne will survive without a Grand Prix," he said. "It seems it would be better without it."
He again poured cold water on efforts by NSW to steal Melbourne's thunder.
"There is nothing in Sydney -- they haven't even got a circuit," he said.
The Grand Prix lost Victorians almost $35 million last year. Melbourne Grand Prix chairman Ron Walker has predicted this year's race will lose about $40 million.
Grand Prix sources said the licensing fee for the Australian event was about $40 million -- more than enough to make the Melbourne Grand Prix profitable if it were waived.
Mr Ecclestone said if it were not "good value, they shouldn't continue with it".
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by Will » Sun Feb 10, 2008 10:04 am
Our state government should take advantage of Mr Ecclestone's reluctance of staging the Grand Prix in Sydney and make a bid! Bringing back the Grand Prix to Adelaide would be worth the cost! Not only would it place Adelaide on an international stage, it would allow Adelaide to be associated with something exciting. But the most important result of bringing back the Grand Prix is that it would shatter our state's collective inferiority complex. In my professional opinion I am 100% sure that bringing back the Grand Prix would usher a wave of positivity to this state, and help reduce the brain drain of our young people interstate and overseas. If people lose the inherent negativity they have for Adelaide, they may start to see that the city is not the what they imagined it to be.
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by JamesXander » Sun Feb 10, 2008 10:12 am
Totally agree. We atleast need to try and make a bid.
This is a once in a generation opportunity to bring a major event to Adelaide, dare I say the last opportunity to bring a major event. We have a proven record, and we need a top class event as the jewel in our crown.
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by Mants » Sun Feb 10, 2008 5:39 pm
what would happen to the Clipsal 500 if we won the bid to re-host the GP?
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