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#991 Post by Will » Tue May 10, 2011 11:48 pm

From the Advertiser:
Hilton Hotel flags upgrade

Guiseppe Tauriello From: The Advertiser May 10, 2011 12:00AM

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Woods Bagot Principal Rosina Di Maria who will work on the master plan for the Hilton Hotel ground floor with Michael Schmitt General Manager of the Hilton Adelaide. Picture: Higgs Greg Source: The Advertiser


THE Hilton Adelaide will upgrade its ground floor in a bid to revitalise the 30-year-old hotel building.

Hilton Adelaide general manager Michael Schmitt said the design would be "ahead of the times".

"The master plan we are now developing encompasses the entire ground floor space, which is close to 3000 sq m of space," he said. "We are looking for something exciting, something new, something innovative, something that's not yet here in Adelaide."

Adelaide-based architecture firm Woods Bagot has been engaged to deliver the master plan and principal Rosina Di Maria said the time was right to create a fresh vision for the way the hotel interacts with guests.

"The building set the way for lobby glamour but hasn't been significantly touched on the ground floor since 1982 when it was built," she said. "Adelaide needs it. If you look at the proposal for Victoria Square and down to the Riverbank, it's about linking these two precincts and attracting world-class events."

The planning process has included workshops where the project team has discussed the suitable mix of retail, food and beverage and guest services.

"Some discussions in the workshops have included the changing landscape of the food and beverage industry, global trends in consumer requirements and the future of guest services and hotel offerings," Ms Di Maria said. "We're bringing the best minds together to make sure the vision is an amazing result."

Mr Schmitt, who is part of the project team, said it was important the team engaged with the community. "We have to listen to what our guests are saying," he said. "We are also speaking to food critics and journalists to see what they think.

"To make sure we have all the right offerings in the right spaces with such a large area demands very careful planning, and we will take the time to challenge ourselves on a continuing basis."

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#992 Post by omada » Tue May 17, 2011 9:14 am

I think the foyer is the least of their problems.. they need external cladding or something, hideous building!

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#993 Post by Omicron » Wed May 18, 2011 12:54 am

I'm quite bothered by this news, because 99.9% of efforts to rejuvenate old spaces end up in half-arsed, try-hard, cost-cuttingly-evident failures. I desperately hope that all parties apply proper glamour to such a deserving space.

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#994 Post by Matt » Wed May 18, 2011 3:30 am

A full scale demolition and re-build would be a grand start.
Regardless of how it looks inside, the exterior is an absolute dog. Seriously hideous, particularly for a building in such a prominent location.

Didn't they do something similar to the Hilton in Sydney? Or did they move altogether?

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#995 Post by ml69 » Wed May 18, 2011 12:31 pm

Matt wrote:A full scale demolition and re-build would be a grand start.
Regardless of how it looks inside, the exterior is an absolute dog. Seriously hideous, particularly for a building in such a prominent location.

Didn't they do something similar to the Hilton in Sydney? Or did they move altogether?
Sydney Hilton underwent a massive refurbishment on its existing site about 4-5 years ago. The interiors were completely upgraded and public lobby areas now look amazing. The exterior facade for the lower levels was completely modernised, however the external facade of the accomodation tower didn't change much.

I would suggest that any money Hilton intend to spend upgrading the hotel is likely to be spent on the interior (public areas and guest rooms). Possible the lower levels of the facade might get an upgrade. But I reckon the external facade of the accomodation tower is going the be the last of their priorities.

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#996 Post by [Shuz] » Wed May 18, 2011 1:43 pm

I must be the only one who likes the Hilton. I appreciate the architecture of its era.
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#997 Post by ml69 » Wed May 18, 2011 9:54 pm

[Shuz] wrote:I must be the only one who likes the Hilton. I appreciate the architecture of its era.
I don't mind it as well Shuz. I think the modelling and shadowing of the facade is quite good, and better than most of that era.

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#998 Post by AtD » Thu May 19, 2011 1:58 pm

A nice piece of land up for sale behind the Law Courts. You may remember some time ago a mid-rise apartment block was proposed for this site.

http://www.realcommercial.com.au/proper ... de-5776209

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#999 Post by Waewick » Thu May 19, 2011 2:45 pm

you would think the Govt would snap that up for any potential expansion of the law courts.

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#1000 Post by mgb » Thu May 19, 2011 2:58 pm

Actually that land in off Penny place was previously owned by the government (and maybe still is). There was a tender I read about back in October last year for real estate services relating to the sale of the area marked [2]. The tender documents at the time suggested the sale to existing land holders in the area.


https://www.tenders.sa.gov.au/tenders/t ... er-details


I have the rest of the tender documents if anyone is interested.

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#1001 Post by Waewick » Thu May 19, 2011 3:55 pm

well maybe the wouldn't then :lol:

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#1002 Post by Ben » Thu May 19, 2011 4:05 pm

They need money!!!

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#1003 Post by Waewick » Thu May 19, 2011 4:24 pm

someone needs to pay for AO :hilarious:
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#1004 Post by Will » Thu May 19, 2011 4:35 pm

AtD wrote:A nice piece of land up for sale behind the Law Courts. You may remember some time ago a mid-rise apartment block was proposed for this site.

http://www.realcommercial.com.au/proper ... de-5776209

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This is the site of tthis failed proposal from 2006. We even have a thread for it:

http://www.sensational-adelaide.com/for ... ?f=7&t=332

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#1005 Post by rhino » Mon May 23, 2011 3:38 pm

ml69 wrote:
[Shuz] wrote:I must be the only one who likes the Hilton. I appreciate the architecture of its era.
I don't mind it as well Shuz. I think the modelling and shadowing of the facade is quite good, and better than most of that era.
Back to the Hilton for a moment - I quite like it too. Well, that's 3 of us.
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