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Ben
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by Ben » Thu Aug 09, 2007 5:19 pm
Thought it would be good to have a thread to all links regarding development in and around Adelaide. If you think of additional site please add them in.
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Will
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by Will » Thu Aug 09, 2007 6:18 pm
This is a good idea, thanks Beamer!
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by Ben » Fri Aug 10, 2007 9:03 am
Updated.
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by Ben » Fri Aug 10, 2007 9:51 am
Thanks Howie. Got that in the list already haha thanks though. There are so many small architecture firms i've forgottten about but they'll come to me.
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by Howie » Fri Aug 10, 2007 10:07 am
haha.. whoops. i did a ctrl-f and didn't find anything so i just assumed it wasn't on the list
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by crawf » Fri Aug 10, 2007 4:50 pm
Nice work, I think this should be sticked
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by AG » Sun Aug 12, 2007 8:15 am
Young architect's vision
RENATO CASTELLO
August 12, 2007 12:15am
A TRIO of Adelaide's leading young architects have outlined their vision of the city's future – and challenged civic leaders to map out a plan of their own.
The architects have formed the Adelaide 2050 Group, combining to design a comprehensive blueprint for the development of major areas across the city.
The strategy, revealed exclusively to the Sunday Mail, sets out a revolutionary view of how Adelaide could look in the future.
The home of AFL would be moved from AAMI Stadium to a sporting mecca at Cheltenham racecourse; the Keswick army barracks would be transformed into the city's health care hub; and the Adelaide Railyards would form the city's cultural heart.
Architects David Burton, Mario Dreosti and Jason Schulz – directors of three prominent Adelaide firms – believe Adelaide is in the grip of "spot planning" with too many "pivotal projects" planned in isolation.
The plan comes in response to the Group's concerns that major projects, including the Marjorie Jackson-Nelson Hospital and Victoria Park Racecourse, lack planning.
Mr Burton said a master plan would provide a "full understanding" of how major sites within Adelaide could link together and allow more critical analysis of development.
They do not pretend to have a solution but hope the master plan is a "catalyst" to sparking much-needed debate, said Mr Burton.
"We simply want Adelaide to live up to its potential," he said.
The Adelaide 2050 group fear if the $1.7 billion Marjorie Jackson-Nelson Hospital is built on the Adelaide Railyards it would be a "lost opportunity" for the city.
"We get a hospital plonked in there but don't have any discussion about whether it is a great spot; we have a discussion about how much it's going to cost and what to name it – it's a failure of how we look at things as a town," Mr Burton said.
"It is a very important site for both the city centre and greater Adelaide.
"We don't have a plan that looks at how potentially large sites in different council areas connect together."
Planning Institute of Australia SA chapter president Gary Mavrinac agreed that a master plan was needed.
He said the State Government had undertaken development on a "piecemeal" approach rather than providing a "vision".
"We are not seeing that from the Government – not clearly anyway," he said.
"We had the tramline going to nowhere but we have now got it going to a hospital; if the Government had that in mind they should have said so.
"At the moment they are making announcements and we don't understand the context in which they are happening."
Urban Design Institute of Australia SA president Peter Jackson said governments had tended to think of projects in "isolation".
"Instead of looking at connections and synergies – we've lost the art of spatial planning," he said. He said master planning was a state-wide problem that needed to be addressed to meet the Government's target of boosting population.
Property Council of SA executive director Nathan Paine said there was a "critical need" for more strategic planning in Adelaide.
"Part of that is a master plan," he said. "The Property Council would be advocating that we need a planning authority that looks at a 50-year time frame."
The article brings up a very good point about the way projects are done in this city. They all seem to be treated individually rather than as part of an overall greater plan. This is particularly evident in the transport and redevelopment projects. Newport Quays is being constructed and planned without any proper linkage into the surrounding areas and left the train line untouched, plans to bring more people by public transport in and around the city (eg. tram extension) but no proposed city bypass or improvement to the ring routes of any sort to complement it. The government is doing more than previous governments but there is still little vision, if any, shown by any of them.
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by AtD » Sun Aug 12, 2007 10:18 am
Why would you move AAMI to Cheltenham? Yes, it'd be next to a rail line, but wouldn't it be better and easier to bring the rail line to it? Either way, it's still way out in suburbia.
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by SRW » Sun Aug 12, 2007 10:25 am
We had the tramline going to nowhere.
It shits me people say that, as it's patently false. Other than that, the article makes some good points.
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by Shuz » Sun Aug 12, 2007 10:44 am
Stadiums in suburbia just doesn't work! I mean, kudos to these guys for releasing some sort of stragetically thought out plan, but if anything - we need to learn off other cities achievements and mistakes, and build the new stadium on the railyards site. Its prime CBD location right next to the Railway Station terminal. I don't think any other place in Adelaide can meet a better standard of PT access and location for a stadium.
They are just reinforcing everyone's view that the railyards should be the cultural centre of the city - The entertainment centre, city square, stadium, etc. are all things that can be utilised in this space, to already emphasise the North Terrace cultural boulevard.
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by Tyler_Durden » Mon Aug 13, 2007 12:01 pm
AtD wrote:Why would you move AAMI to Cheltenham? Yes, it'd be next to a rail line, but wouldn't it be better and easier to bring the rail line to it? Either way, it's still way out in suburbia.
Exactly. What is the point in moving it a couple of kilometers north? And, for that matter, putting other facilities next to it? What exactly does it achieve? Very little as far as I'm concerned, except to move it even further away from the hundreds of thousands of people that live in the south of the city. May as well leave everything where it is.
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by Cruise » Mon Aug 13, 2007 12:15 pm
I dont know why your all complaing about these guys plans to move Football park to cheltnam, its never gonna happen.
And though i share the dream for a super stadium to be built in the city i cant see Football park moving anytime soon
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by talrok » Mon Aug 13, 2007 1:16 pm
Suggesting that AAMI could move to Cheltenham is ridiculous .. just adds extra useless debate and distracts from where it should be .. in the city!!!
Move the damn hospital there .. combine the RAH with the QEH with the Marj with the whatever at Cheltenham .. if we were bidding for the Olympics then I would agree with some plans those guys had, but we will never be in that position. We need only one decent Footy (AFL) stadium in city and raise capacity at Hindmarsh (two tiers all round) to 30,000 and that's fine for next 20 or so years. Then if we need new soccer stadium built it at Santos and scrap the running track!! Both are near rail, rail stations, bus stations, and major public transport. Just think the new bus station in city will cater for those travelling from whoop whoop to see thier beloved Crows or Power or Reds!!
And if finance is the problem, just think about all that land freed up at West lakes or Woodville (QEH) that new home owners will be jumping over themselves to acquire and add to the government/SANFL coffers.
hey did anyone see a report on TV the other night about a new massive hospital being buily in Napoli .. just down the road from their good mate Mt Vesuvious .. people couldn't believe they were building it there .. this government still can't put 2 and 2 together!?!?
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by Ho Really » Mon Aug 13, 2007 2:39 pm
talrok wrote:...hey did anyone see a report on TV the other night about a new massive hospital being buily in Napoli .. just down the road from their good mate Mt Vesuvious .. people couldn't believe they were building it there .. this government still can't put 2 and 2 together!?!?
Didn't see the report, but I knew of the story. I wouldn't worry too much about what happens in Naples, Italy. The whole area around would be susceptible to quakes anyway, so it doesn't really matter if they build it east or west of the city. Also, most, if not all things there are controlled by the local mafia, the "Camorra". These guys are interested in profits and couldn't care less where it was built...
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