Cnr South Road and Daws Road, Vacant Site. Former Caryard

[SouthAussie94]

Not sure if this is the right place for this but....

I couldnt help but think this site would be the ideal location for a Coles Express Service Station. It would be one of the only service stations between Reynella/Morphett Vale and ANZAC highway on the city bound side of South rd. Also there are hardly any Coles Express Service Stations in the surrounding area, despite there being numerous Coles Supermarkets.

I'm just trying to settle a debate with my Girlfriend...

Cheers

[Nathan]

Why specifically a Coles Express instead of any other service station chain?

[Aidan]

There don't seem to be any other Coles Expresses in the area, though the RAA fuelwatch website doesn't seem to show Shell, so I can't be entirely sure. It does look like quite a good place for a servo, but the really important thing should be to make provision for construction of an overpass.

[crawf]

This should be moved to the general metro thread.

[[Shuz]]

Oh hai geniuses, how about the Government buy the land to reserve it for future widening of South Road and/or to accomodate the need for an overpass/underpass at this intersection!

[Aidan]

Oh hai geniuses, how about the Government buy the land to reserve it for future widening of South Road and/or to accomodate the need for an overpass/underpass at this intersection!

That was sort of my point, but an overpass wouldn't require anything like the full width of the site, so there should be room for a fuel station as well should ColesShell or anyone else want to build one. And an underpass would be much more expensive and not offer any major advantage over an overpass at that location.

[Songsting]

There is a coles petrol station at Darlington, opposite McDs and (almost) HJs

[Ben]

This site has been vacant for a year or so now and it makes me angry the govnment have not purchased the land. This is the site of a major bottleneck and this would allow construction of an underpass when the state can afford it. Massive lost opportunity if a developer buys the land.

[Aidan]

I'd forgotten that one was still open, Songsting.

Still, SouthAussie94 has a point about the lack of fuel stations on the northbound side of South Road - there are currently none before the Gallipoli Underpass. UIVMM that even includes Main South Road since the Caltex Woolworths at Reynella has closed.

Currently of course it's a non issue, as right turns are permitted in many locations. But once South Road becomes a non stop corridor, it will be of more significance because other refueling options will be more limited.

[Ben]

Still, SouthAussie94 has a point about the lack of fuel stations on the northbound side of South Road - there are currently none before the Gallipoli Underpass. UIVMM that even includes Main South Road since the Caltex Woolworths at Reynella has closed.

There is one at Castle Plaza

[Maximus]

I was actually thinking just the other day that there seem to be more petrol stations on the outbound (i.e. driving away from CBD) side of the road than the inbound. Not just on South Road, but in general. I wonder if this is deliberate -- more people tend to buy fuel on the way home from work than on the way in...?

[RL306]

I'd forgotten that one was still open, Songsting.

Still, SouthAussie94 has a point about the lack of fuel stations on the northbound side of South Road - there are currently none before the Gallipoli Underpass. UIVMM that even includes Main South Road since the Caltex Woolworths at Reynella has closed.

Currently of course it's a non issue, as right turns are permitted in many locations. But once South Road becomes a non stop corridor, it will be of more significance because other refueling options will be more limited.

Since when has the Caltex/Woolworths at Reynella closed? It was still open when i filled up there on Saturday?
I can remember years ago when Shell servos were everywhere, then a lot seem to have closed. Brighton Rd, Morphett Vale(is now Australian Motors car yard)(ironically the same company that use to occupy the Daw's/South Rd site) and there was one on Goodwood Rd too somewhere (cant remember excatley where).

[neoballmon]

Since when has the Caltex/Woolworths at Reynella closed? It was still open when i filled up there on Saturday?
I can remember years ago when Shell servos were everywhere, then a lot seem to have closed. Brighton Rd, Morphett Vale(is now Australian Motors car yard)(ironically the same company that use to occupy the Daw's/South Rd site) and there was one on Goodwood Rd too somewhere (cant remember excatley where).

I remember that one in Morphett Vale actually. Right next to the BP. Then in the carpark of Woolworths, there was another BP, with the Mobil (now On the Run) next to it. Who would think 4 servo's are needed within 50 meters of each other?? Especially in the outter suburbs.

[Aidan]

I'd forgotten that one was still open, Songsting.

Still, SouthAussie94 has a point about the lack of fuel stations on the northbound side of South Road - there are currently none before the Gallipoli Underpass. UIVMM that even includes Main South Road since the Caltex Woolworths at Reynella has closed.

Currently of course it's a non issue, as right turns are permitted in many locations. But once South Road becomes a non stop corridor, it will be of more significance because other refueling options will be more limited.

Since when has the Caltex/Woolworths at Reynella closed? It was still open when i filled up there on Saturday?

It was closed the last few times I passed it last year, so I (wrongly) assumed the closure was permanent. And (as has been pointed out) I also forgot about the one at Castle Plaza.

I can remember years ago when Shell servos were everywhere, then a lot seem to have closed. Brighton Rd, Morphett Vale(is now Australian Motors car yard)(ironically the same company that use to occupy the Daw's/South Rd site) and there was one on Goodwood Rd too somewhere (cant remember excatley where).

But it's not just Shell. Mobil's closed one on Brighton Road. A few have gone from Marion Road, including the one (Liberty I think) that was once Adelaide's biggest. And IIRC two have gone from Darlington.

Is it matched by new ones opening? Or expanding? Is demand falling? Or was there just an oversupply of them before?

[neoballmon]

But it's not just Shell. Mobil's closed one on Brighton Road. A few have gone from Marion Road, including the one (Liberty I think) that was once Adelaide's biggest. And IIRC two have gone from Darlington.

Is it matched by new ones opening? Or expanding? Is demand falling? Or was there just an oversupply of them before?

I don't think anything has replaced the Marion one, but it is a shame to see such a large independant gone.
As for Darlington, the first one to close was a Mobil, so I guess they found it pointless to keep 2 Mobils, then when they sold the other one to Caltex, I assume it still couldn't compete with the large BP that's just up the road.
Brighton Road doesn't seem to be replaced in the area either.

I would say there was just an over supply, and at some point (my guess would be 80's), there was just a thought that with no excessive taxes like we have now on petrol, there could never be too many stations, and that they'd all do excellently. Now with 130+c/L, everyone has to be more competitive, the smaller stores can no longer profit..