Adelaide makes Top 10 for 2019 EIU most liveable cities index

[Bob]

The latest most liveable city index - on the Global Index - Melbourne #2, Sydney #3, Adelaide #10. Perth and Brisbane also make the Top 20.

https://www.theguardian.com/australia-n ... -in-a-spin

[rev]

Yeh yeh, so liveable with high unemployment/few job prospects, huge rise in cost of living and more pain to come on that front.

Also from the article..

“What’s important to remember is that the Economist Intelligence Unit’s index is a composite rating made up 30 indicators, with only four of them being quantitative,” said Dr Lucy Gunn, a research fellow in the Centre for Urban Research at Melbourne’s RMIT university.

“The rest of them are based on a rating from the [Economist Intelligence Unit] itself so there’s almost no objectivity in the development of this index, and it’s really just a marketing tool to help executives understand, in a broad sense, a city’s living conditions.”

In other words, these lists mean jack shit.

[Nort]

Yeh yeh, so liveable with high unemployment/few job prospects, huge rise in cost of living and more pain to come on that front.

Also from the article..

“What’s important to remember is that the Economist Intelligence Unit’s index is a composite rating made up 30 indicators, with only four of them being quantitative,” said Dr Lucy Gunn, a research fellow in the Centre for Urban Research at Melbourne’s RMIT university.

“The rest of them are based on a rating from the [Economist Intelligence Unit] itself so there’s almost no objectivity in the development of this index, and it’s really just a marketing tool to help executives understand, in a broad sense, a city’s living conditions.”

In other words, these lists mean jack shit.

Hey Rev, what other cities have you lived in?

[Ho Really]

While we are at it here's Mercer's 2019 Quality of Living Ranking published earlier in the year:

Rank City Country/Region
1 Vienna Austria
2 Zürich Switzerland
3 Vancouver Canada
3 Munich Germany
3 Auckland New Zealand
6 Düsseldorf Germany
7 Frankfurt Germany
8 Copenhagen Denmark
9 Geneva Switzerland
10 Basel Switzerland
11 Sydney Australia
11 Amsterdam Netherlands
13 Berlin Germany
14 Bern Switzerland
15 Wellington New Zealand
16 Toronto Canada
17 Melbourne Australia
18 Luxembourg Luxembourg
19 Ottawa Canada
19 Hamburg Germany
21 Perth Australia
21 Montréal Canada
23 Nuremburg Germany
23 Stockholm Sweden
25 Oslo Norway
25 Singapore Singapore
27 Stuttgart Germany
28 Brussels Belgium
29 Adelaide Australia
30 Canberra Australia
31 Helsinki Finland
32 Calgary Canada
33 Dublin Ireland
34 San Francisco United States
35 Brisbane Australia
36 Boston United States
37 Lisbon Portugal
37 Honolulu United States
39 Paris France
40 Lyon France
41 Milan Italy
41 London United Kingdom
43 Barcelona Spain
44 New York United States
45 Edinburgh United Kingdom
46 Madrid Spain
46 Seattle United States
48 Glasgow United Kingdom
49 Kobe Japan
49 Tokyo Japan
49 Birmingham United Kingdom
49 Chicago United States
53 Washington United States
54 Philadelphia United States
55 Yokohama Japan
56 Rome Italy
57 Aberdeen United Kingdom
58 Osaka Japan
59 Pittsburgh United States
60 Leipzig Germany
61 Minneapolis United States
62 Nagoya Japan
63 Dallas United States
64 Belfast United Kingdom
64 Atlanta United States
66 Houston United States
66 Los Angeles United States
66 Miami United States
69 Prague Czech Republic
70 St. Louis United States
71 Hong Kong Hong Kong SAR
72 Pointe-à-Pitre Guadeloupe (France)
72 Detroit United States
74 Ljubljana Slovenia
74 Dubai United Arab Emirates
76 Budapest Hungary
77 Seoul South Korea
78 Abu Dhabi United Arab Emirates
78 Montevideo Uruguay
80 Bratislava Slovakia
81 Vilnius Lithuania
82 Warsaw Poland
83 Port Louis Mauritius
84 Taipei Taiwan
85 Kuala Lumpur Malaysia
86 Limassol Cyprus
86 Tallinn Estonia
88 Durban South Africa
89 Athens Greece
90 Riga Latvia
91 Buenos Aires Argentina
92 San Juan Puerto Rico
93 Santiago Chile
94 Busan South Korea
95 Cape Town South Africa
96 Johannesburg South Africa
97 Panama City Panama
98 Zagreb Croatia
98 Victoria Seychelles
100 Wroclaw Poland
101 Johor Bahru Malaysia
101 Taichung Taiwan
103 Shanghai China
104 Tel Aviv Israel
105 Muscat Oman
106 Bandar Seri Begawan Brunei
107 Brasilia Brazil
108 San José Costa Rica
109 Bucharest Romania
110 Noumea New Caledonia
110 Doha Qata
112 Nassau Bahamas
113 Monterrey Mexico
114 Tunis Tunisia
115 Asunción Paraguay
116 Sofia Bulgaria
117 Rabat Morocco
118 Rio de Janeiro Brazil
119 São Paulo Brazil
120 Beijing China
120 Amman Jordan
122 Guangzhou China
122 Quito Ecuador
124 Casablanca Morocco
124 Lima Peru
126 Kuwait City Kuwait
127 Manaus Brazil
128 Bogotá Colombia
129 Mexico City Mexico
130 Istanbul Turkey
131 Windhoek Namibia
132 Shenzhen China
133 Bangkok Thailand
134 Chengdu China
135 Santo Domingo Dominican Republic
136 Manama Bahrain
137 Manila Philippines
138 Colombo Sri Lanka
139 Belgrade Serbia
140 Nanjing China
141 Gaborone Botswana
142 Jakarta Indonesia
143 Hyderabad India
143 Pune India
145 Xian China
146 Qingdao China
147 Port of Spain Trinidad & Tobago
148 Chongqing China
149 Bengaluru India
150 Lusaka Zambia
151 Chennai India
152 Kingston Jamaica
153 Ho Chi Minh City Vietnam
154 Mumbai India
155 Hanoi Vietnam
156 La Paz Bolivia
156 Sarajevo Bosnia-Herzegovina
158 Shenyang China
158 Guatemala City Guatemala
160 Kolkata India
161 Skopje Macedonia
162 New Delhi India
163 Dakar Senegal
164 Riyadh Saudi Arabia
165 Accra Ghana
166 Libreville Gabon
167 Moscow Russia
168 Jeddah Saudi Arabia
169 Jilin China
170 Yerevan Armenia
171 Vientiane People's Democratic Republic of Laos
172 Kampala Uganda
173 Kyiv Ukraine
174 St. Petersburg Russia
175 Tirana Albania
175 San Salvador El Salvador
177 Cairo Eqypt
177 Almaty Kazakhstan
179 Banjul Gambia
180 Managua Nicaragua
181 Blantyre Malawi
182 Cotonou Benin
183 Maputo Mozambique
184 Beirut Lebanon
185 Algiers Algeria
186 Nairobi Kenya
187 Tbilisi Georgia
188 Minsk Belarus
189 Djibouti Djibouti
189 Tegucigalpa Honduras
191 Kigali Rwanda
192 Havana Cuba
193 Yaounde Cameroon
194 Islamabad Pakistan
195 Baku Azerbaijan
196 Phnom Penh Cambodia
197 Douala Cameroon
198 Dar es Salaam Tanzania
199 Luanda Angola
199 Tehran Iran
201 Karachi Pakistan
202 Caracas Venezuela
203 Yangon Myanmar
203 Lome Togo
203 Tashkent Uzbekistan
206 Bishkek Kyrgyzstan
207 Lahore Pakistan
208 Abidjan Cote d'Ivoire
209 Addis Ababa Ethiopia
210 Harare Zimbabwe
211 Ashgabat Turkmenistan
212 Lagos Nigeria
213 Abuja Nigeria
214 Antananarivo Madagascar
215 Dushanbe Tajikistan
216 Ouagadougou Burkina Faso
217 Dhaka Bangladesh
218 Tripoli Libya
218 Niamey Niger
220 Bamako Mali
221 Nouakchott Mauritania
222 Conakry Guinea Republic
223 Kinshasa Democratic Republic of the Congo
224 Brazzaville Congo
225 Damascus Syria
226 N'Djamena Chad
227 Khartoum Sudan
228 Port au Prince Haiti
229 Sana'a Yemen Arab Republic
230 Bangui Central African Republic
231 Baghdad Iraq

List taken from: QUALITY OF LIVING CITY RANKING. Find criteria on how the list was formulated on same page.

See also press release issued 13 March, 2019: VIENNA TOPS MERCER’S 21ST QUALITY OF LIVING RANKING.

Cheers

[Ho Really]

Yeh yeh, so liveable with high unemployment/few job prospects, huge rise in cost of living and more pain to come on that front.

Also from the article..

“What’s important to remember is that the Economist Intelligence Unit’s index is a composite rating made up 30 indicators, with only four of them being quantitative,” said Dr Lucy Gunn, a research fellow in the Centre for Urban Research at Melbourne’s RMIT university.

“The rest of them are based on a rating from the [Economist Intelligence Unit] itself so there’s almost no objectivity in the development of this index, and it’s really just a marketing tool to help executives understand, in a broad sense, a city’s living conditions.”

In other words, these lists mean jack shit.

Hey Rev, what other cities have you lived in?

It's all relative isn't it? You can live well in most places as long as you have a job, a roof over your head (you own or can afford) and are not starving. The rest are bonuses of 21st century living.

Cheers

[SRW]

Yeh yeh, so liveable with high unemployment/few job prospects, huge rise in cost of living and more pain to come on that front.

Also from the article..



In other words, these lists mean jack shit.

Hey Rev, what other cities have you lived in?

It's all relative isn't it? You can live well in most places as long as you have a job, a roof over your head (you own or can afford) and are not starving. The rest are bonuses of 21st century living.

Cheers

That's exactly the original purpose of the Economist list; it's used by employers to determine the level of 'hardship pay' for expats working in these cities.

[ghs]

It's all relative isn't it? You can live well in most places as long as you have a job, a roof over your head (you own or can afford) and are not starving. The rest are bonuses of 21st century living.

Cheers

When you consider the cost of property in a city like Sydney or Melbourne, someone with an unskilled job earning 40k per year has no chance of getting into a good financial position.

[rev]

Yeh yeh, so liveable with high unemployment/few job prospects, huge rise in cost of living and more pain to come on that front.

Also from the article..

“What’s important to remember is that the Economist Intelligence Unit’s index is a composite rating made up 30 indicators, with only four of them being quantitative,” said Dr Lucy Gunn, a research fellow in the Centre for Urban Research at Melbourne’s RMIT university.

“The rest of them are based on a rating from the [Economist Intelligence Unit] itself so there’s almost no objectivity in the development of this index, and it’s really just a marketing tool to help executives understand, in a broad sense, a city’s living conditions.”

In other words, these lists mean jack shit.

Hey Rev, what other cities have you lived in?

Why? What does where any of us have lived got to do with my comment?

Did you even read the quote from the article?
(Not a dig at the OP)..People online post these lists as some sort of form of pride or one up manship on "rival" cities. The lists arent compiled for that purpose and dont have that type of meaning.
The quote I copied from the article pretty much tells you that.

Weve been ranking considerably well for many years now on these lists. What benefit have we seen?

[Ho Really]

If anyone is interested here's a link to download the Economist Intelligence "The Global Liveability Index 2022 - Recovery and hardship" publication. It's in PDF format and is 7mb in size.

Adelaide is ranked 30th slipping by 27 places.

Cheers

[rubberman]

What needs to be kept in mind about these indexes is that they are written from the point of view of executive recruiters. Mercers, for example, is an HR consultancy.

So, of course, if you are an executive whose company will pay for a harbour side mansion in Sydney, and pay for your kids to go to Kings School, or Shore, Sydney is great. Otoh, for most people in Sydney, it's an over priced dog box in suburbia, and Sydney, for them, is objectively worse than Adelaide. In fact, most Adelaideans are not only better off, but can probably fly to Sydney for shows etc any time they want and be there quicker than it takes from some of Sydney's outer suburbs.

[rev]

These lists are subjective.

You'll find as many people from say Sydney or Melbourne, who think Adelaide is amazing, as you will who find Adelaide boring and offering very little.

With everything considered, we've handled the pandemic pretty well here in SA, and while cost of housing has gone up and continues to, it's still relatively affordable compared to Melbourne or Sydney. But we've fallen 27 places.
Melbourne which had the most/longest lockdowns of any city on earth, is in 10th place. That's liveable according to the people who complied this list.

Perth, which kept covid at bay for a long period of time and life continued relatively unchanged while the rest of us went through lockdowns and so on, slipped 26 places as well.

I bet we could all make our own lists and have a different ranks.