[PRO] St Peters Cathedral [$100 million]

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[PRO] St Peters Cathedral [$100 million]

#1 Post by PeFe » Thu Sep 10, 2020 1:48 pm

The Anglican Church want to redevelop St Peters Cathedral and are asking the state government to pitch in $35 million.

From In Daily
REVEALED: Anglican Church seeks $35m taxpayer funds for Adelaide cathedral revamp

The Anglican Church wants $35 million of taxpayer funds as part of an estimated $100 million redevelopment of St Peter’s Cathedral and its surrounds in a bid to double annual visitation, with the plans also including an as-yet-unconfirmed tramline extension into North Adelaide.

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A render of the proposed "Cathedral 150" development in North Adelaide. Image: Woods Bagot/Anglican Diocese of Adelaide
Branded “Cathedral 150”, the proposed project involves restoring state heritage-listed St Peter’s Cathedral, which celebrated its 150-year anniversary last year, as well as constructing a new underground visitor centre and public plaza outside the landmark building.

Documents obtained by InDaily show the church is seeking up to $35 million from the state and federal governments to pay for the public infrastructure works, including $15 million for the restoration and $20 million for the visitor centre and plaza.

The remaining $65 million will be spent by the Diocese to create an annuity to maintain the cathedral.

The Anglican Church has also asked the State Government to spend an undisclosed sum to extend the north-south tramline into North Adelaide to create a new “cathedral line” connecting St Peter’s Cathedral to Victoria Square, where Colonel William Light originally intended the church to be built in the 1800s.

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An Anglican Diocese of Adelaide document outlining its funding request to the state and federal governments.

The extended line would feature three new stops extending from the Festival Plaza stop: one directly in front of St Peter’s Cathedral, a second near the old Le Cornu site at 88 O’Connell Street and the third near the Piccadilly Cinema.

According to the plan, other future developments, including a proposed new Aquatic Centre in the park lands, would also benefit from a tramline extension into North Adelaide.

It follows a $259 million Labor pledge ahead of the 2018 election to extend the tramline two-kilometres along O’Connell Street into North Adelaide as part of its proposed “ProspectLink” extension – a plan that has been shelved by the Marshall Liberal Government until at least after the next poll in 2022.

According to the undated plan, the restoration works were scheduled to start as early as next month, with construction on the public realm and visitor centre due to begin in January.

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The proposed St Peter’s Cathedral underground visitor centre. Image: Woods Bagot/Anglican Archdiocese of Adelaide

The Anglican Diocese of Adelaide and St Peters Cathedral commissioned UK consultancy firm Mott MacDonald, which was involved in the Torrens to Torrens project and Adelaide Oval redevelopment, and Melbourne-based architects Woods Bagot, which worked on the Adelaide Convention Centre redevelopment, to come up with the plan.

It states the redevelopment would transform the cathedral precinct into a “destination” and double annual visitation from 40,000 to 80,000 people.

According to the church, the proposed redevelopment has the potential to create a “catalyst for development in the surrounding areas” and increase the residential population in North Adelaide.

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stimated property values of key North Adelaide sites. Image: Mott MacDonald/Anglican Diocese of Adelaide

A vision statement declares the redevelopment would create an “ongoing revenue stream” for the cathedral and “enhance the prominence and accessibility of St Peter’s Cathedral within our city”.

The designs show the redeveloped cathedral would complement a yet-to-be-announced new development at the current Women’s and Children’s Hospital site, once the public hospital is relocated from North Adelaide to the city’s west.

It would also “enhance Adelaide’s culture of music” by aligning with the University of Adelaide’s Conservatorium of Music, as well as the State Government’s proposed new acoustic concert hall, which is yet to be funded.

A raft of church redevelopments interstate and overseas are mentioned as “benchmark” examples for the proposed St Peter’s Cathedral works, including Bishop’s See in Perth, Aspire Precinct in Bendigo, Project Pilgrim at Gloucester Cathedral and Cathedral Place in Philadelphia.

A tramline extension into North Adelaide would help link the cathedral to what the designers have named “Riverbank 2.0”, featuring new developments including the proposed concert hall, an unannounced glass building floating on the Torrens called “Elder Jewel” and a new sports arena on Memorial Drive – a project that the Government has since shelved.

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The Anglican Diocese of Adelaide wants to connect St Peter’s Cathedral to a redeveloped “Riverbank 2.0” featuring new and existing developments. Image: Mott MacDonald/Anglican Diocese of Adelaide

According to the master plan documents, Premier Steven Marshall and former Planning Minister Stephan Knoll have been briefed on the plans, as well as South Australian Liberal senator David Fawcett and ex-independent senator Cory Bernardi.

InDaily asked Marshall’s office if the State Government was considering funding the project, but a spokesperson referred the enquiry to Planning Minister Vickie Chapman, who is yet to respond.

Treasurer Rob Lucas said a broad proposal had been raised and rejected a year ago but he had not seen the detailed plans since then.

“As with all proposals, the Government will consider it but my personal view is it would have to be a fairly high threshold to be putting $35 million into a cathedral,” he said.

“We may have similar arguments for other principal places of worship for other religions as well [so] we’d obviously cast the eye on what the ongoing public benefit would be for any such proposal.

“If it’s submitted, it will be given due consideration.”

Federal Infrastructure Minister Michael McCormack is yet to respond to InDaily‘s request for comment.

The church has briefed a raft of major organisations including the Adelaide Oval’s Stadium Management Authority, the Adelaide Football Club, Adelaide Festival Centre, the University of Adelaide, Business SA and Adelaide Symphony Orchestra.

It also intends to launch an expression of interest process to secure potential development partners.

The Adelaide City Council is not mentioned in the documents.

InDaily contacted the Anglican Diocese of Adelaide for comment but it yet to receive a response.

The Anglican Diocese of Adelaide earlier this week announced that it had sold its 164-year-old mansion Bishop’s Court at Palmer Place for an undisclosed sum.

The 5300 square-metre property, which sits on prime land overlooking Palmer Gardens, hit the market in February and was expected to fetch more than $10 million – making it the most expensive residential property in SA.

Archbishop Geoff Smith was the most recent resident, having lived at the estate for the past three years with his wife.

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Re: [PRO] St Peters Cathedral [$100 million]

#2 Post by Nort » Thu Sep 10, 2020 1:55 pm

Will they be making their facilities available for public uses that go against their religious views? If so could be worth considering, if not then there is no reason for the government to be funding this.

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#3 Post by SRW » Thu Sep 10, 2020 2:01 pm

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I think somebody's gonna be in trouble for releasing unannounced state government concepts.

Note also Bicentennial Park in front of the railways.

(Btw, I don't think we should be posting articles in full from InDaily given they depend on advertising for operations. They're our only remaining competitor to Murdoch media locally after The Adelaide Review announced its last edition yesterday).
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#4 Post by SRW » Thu Sep 10, 2020 2:18 pm

I think it's fine for the state and federal government to contribute funds for restoration/conservation of an item of significant heritage.

However, all the rest of it the church can pursue on its own, especially if the state builds the tram line. I think they're optimistic about the extent of visitation it would receive when there are many other more surefire attractions the state could direct its limited money. It's worth noting too that the Catholic Church has funded itself from land development around St Xavier's, so the Anglicans can do the same from their holding. Although, I would say setting Perth's Bishop's See and Philly's Cathedral Place as benchmarks would be pretty inappropriate in the context of St Peters.
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Re: [PRO] St Peters Cathedral [$100 million]

#5 Post by shiftaling » Thu Sep 10, 2020 2:23 pm

No pun intended, but to a 'layperson' that whole riverbank thing looks pretty awesome.

Any ideas about what the "Jewel" is about?

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#6 Post by SRW » Thu Sep 10, 2020 2:32 pm

shiftaling wrote:
Thu Sep 10, 2020 2:23 pm
No pun intended, but to a 'layperson' that whole riverbank thing looks pretty awesome.

Any ideas about what the "Jewel" is about?
My guess is a performance pontoon/platform to solidify Elder Park as the city's outdoors event space.
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Re: [PRO] St Peters Cathedral [$100 million]

#7 Post by rev » Thu Sep 10, 2020 2:42 pm

Not a cent of tax payers dollars should be spent on this, except for the tram extension. These religious groups have more money then people can dream of, they can afford to pay for it them selves. The Church of England aka Anglican Church has a net worth of $9 billion.

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#8 Post by ChillyPhilly » Thu Sep 10, 2020 3:29 pm

rev wrote:
Thu Sep 10, 2020 2:42 pm
Not a cent of tax payers dollars should be spent on this, except for the tram extension. These religious groups have more money then people can dream of, they can afford to pay for it them selves. The Church of England aka Anglican Church has a net worth of $9 billion.
Agree - sure, in the future when the existing members of the parish/diocese pass on and leave behind only the church building, heritage upkeep could warrant public funding. At this time though, it is important to note that the church pays no tax and remains one of the most powerful organisations in the world.

It would be great if this can end up being a bit of an impetus to extend the tramline to North Adelaide and beyond.
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Re: [PRO] St Peters Cathedral [$100 million]

#9 Post by Nathan » Thu Sep 10, 2020 3:49 pm

Let's keep the collection plate inside the church.

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#10 Post by wilkiebarkid » Thu Sep 10, 2020 4:20 pm

Good to see they will incorporate Darwin's esplanade precinct into the Riverbank precinct!!

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#11 Post by Algernon » Thu Sep 10, 2020 5:48 pm

My girlfriend and I visit quite a number of churches in the year when we travel, not only from being fans of old architecture but also it's pretty strongly woven into the cultural fabric here in Europe where we live. From our last visit to Adelaide, I can suggest one way that St Peters can improve its annual visitation compared to, say... Francis Xavier cathedral.... DON'T LOCK THE FRONT DOOR.
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Re: [PRO] St Peters Cathedral [$100 million]

#12 Post by Nort » Thu Sep 10, 2020 5:49 pm

SRW wrote:
Thu Sep 10, 2020 2:01 pm
elderpark.png
I think somebody's gonna be in trouble for releasing unannounced state government concepts.

Note also Bicentennial Park in front of the railways.

(Btw, I don't think we should be posting articles in full from InDaily given they depend on advertising for operations. They're our only remaining competitor to Murdoch media locally after The Adelaide Review announced its last edition yesterday).
Well spotted!

Bicentennial park is an interesting one, assuming it's referring to the creation of South Australia as a legal entity the earliest that bicentennial will occur would be 2034.

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#13 Post by Algernon » Thu Sep 10, 2020 5:53 pm

Btw, what's up with that womens and childrens hospital in the graphic. I could have sworn it's Bosco Verticale in Milan :lol:

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#14 Post by how good is he » Thu Sep 10, 2020 7:38 pm

You would realistically think the next tram stop would be in front of AO, so I doubt they would put another stop only 200m away in front of the Cathedral.

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Re: [PRO] St Peters Cathedral [$100 million]

#15 Post by Jaymz » Thu Sep 10, 2020 8:55 pm

Extend the tram line, i'm all for that. To North Adelaide please.

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