News & Discussion: General CBD Development

[Will]

Whilst I do not agree with this new charge, I think people are seriously over-reacting. It does say that the fee is up to $10 700 per annum, meaning that most palces will be paying less than that. Sure, businesses will not like paying it, but I doubt any of them will actually close because of it. Rather the consequence will be more expensive drinks, food and entry fees.

I'm sorry, how is this a good thing?

Plus I know for a fact a couple of businesses are looking at ways to cut costs because of these fees with earlier closing times, cutting down on staff and security etc.

I don't think it's an overreaction to be against something that will have a detrimental affect on Adelaide's nightlife particularly when the council and state government are saying they want to encourage cultural precincts.

If you re-read my post, I actually state that I am against it, meaning that I do not think it is a good thing.

All I am stating is that you are over-reacting if you think a business will close because of a new charge, which would equate to less than $1000 per month. I mean, if they can't afford that, they are probably already going out of business.

[crawf]

Whilst I do not agree with this new charge, I think people are seriously over-reacting. It does say that the fee is up to $10 700 per annum, meaning that most palces will be paying less than that. Sure, businesses will not like paying it, but I doubt any of them will actually close because of it. Rather the consequence will be more expensive drinks, food and entry fees.

The article states that at least three entertainment venues are looking to close early or reduce their capacity. This is no overreaction, and I would be pretty annoyed if food prices and entry fees were increased thanks to this Government. Alcohol and some entry fees are already pretty expensive.

[Ben]

Wonder how significant this will be

Type: Development Application Received
Application Number: DA/380/2012
Lodgement Date: 1/06/2012
Location: Hilton International Adelaide Hotel, 233 Victoria Square, ADELAIDE SA 5000
Description: Internal and external alterations.

Applicant Name


WOODS BAGOT P/L

[Matt]

Extremely, I hope. I loathe that building.

[Dvious]

Its woods bagot, we will expect to see more than just some paint.

[metro]

Its woods bagot, we will expect to see more than just some paint.

maybe some glass 'Pods' to stick out of the building

[Reb-L]

Extremely, I hope. I loathe that building.

I agree it's not an architectural masterpiece - but it's one of the few buildings in this city that's lit up after dark.

[Ben]

From in Daily

Friday, 8 June 2012

Moves to relax nightclub licensing

Melissa Mack

A SENIOR SA Planning official has flagged an overhaul to the “hoops of fire” liquor licensing system for small bars in Adelaide.

Speaking last night at the Property Council SA’s youth forum at the Tuxedo Cat bar in the city, Matthew Loader said the government was working on reforms to small bar licences.

“That’s a body of work we are working on very keenly,” said Mr Loader, who is the general manager planning reform and projects with the Department of Planning, Transport and Infrastructure.

“Because it seems ridiculous that if you are walking to a disused shop front and you want to convert it to a small bar with 60 or 80 people in attendance, that you have to be dragged through hoops of fire in order to get an approval.

“That’s the type of stuff the government is very keen to look at and reform.

“I’m sure there will be announcements of various aspects of things as they roll out in the coming months this year.”

Loader said Hindley Street was a “classic example of risk-averse planning”.

“I don’t think there is anything to be afraid of with late night trading.

“I think there is a problem when you locate all your late night trading venues in the same place. You propose a lockdown policy, you send hoards of police in there and you generally agitate people there and concentrate them all in the same location.”

Loader’s comments seem to be at odds with the government’s recent changes to the Liquor Licensing Act, which will see increased fees to venues open after 2am coming into effect on July 1.

He said that instead of regulation, the starting point should be dispersing the nightclubs.

“You need to have some of those nightclubs not being on Hindley Street but let’s have a nightclub on Hutt Street, let’s have a nightclub on the Mall, let’s have a night club in North Adelaide.

“Or frankly we need to start talking about leading some night clubs up into the suburbs.

“It’s about getting past this idea that concentrating them in that location and policing it all is a good idea.”

The forum discussed the future of Adelaide’s CDB, with heated debate between young architects and developers about how best to attract people to the city and reduce the state’s dependence on cars.

[crawf]

“You need to have some of those nightclubs not being on Hindley Street but let’s have a nightclub on Hutt Street, let’s have a nightclub on the Mall, let’s have a night club in North Adelaide.

Yes!

[Omicron]

Sounds good to me, although this means my taxi bill is going to skyrocket.

[Will]

Good to see some movement regarding small bar licenses.

From the Advertiser:

Laneway licences toast of town for Festival

Political Reporter Daniel Wills

June 08, 201211:00PM


CHEAP new liquor licences will be aimed at creating laneway or "hole in the wall" bars in the Adelaide CBD.

And they are expected to be available in time for next year's Mad March festival season.

Business Services and Consumers Minister John Rau told The Advertiser he was drafting changes to liquor laws to encourage an Adelaide bar and music culture similar to Melbourne's.

The changes have been high on the wishlist for industry and small business groups but will face opposition from the Australian Hotels Association, which represents large existing pubs.

Small bar licences are in operation in Melbourne, Sydney and Western Australia.

They allow people with small premises a cut-rate liquor licence and less red tape than existing laws, which often require drink service to be paired with sit-down meals or live entertainment.

Restaurant and Catering Association chief executive Sally Neville said change would spark new activity in the CBD.

"What it will offer to South Australia is diversity, with the offering for young people particularly to enjoy hospitality outside the existing availability of restaurants, nightclubs or hotels," she said.

"It's what people talk about when they go to Melbourne and, quite frankly, it's a shame that we haven't got more of that style here."

Mr Rau said that Premier Jay Weatherill strongly backed the concept but details needed to be ironed out.

"In a matter of months, we should have something that we can talk about in detail," Mr Rau said. "I would be extremely disappointed if this all wasn't done and dusted before we got into that festive season starting with the Tour Down Under and into Mad March. The sooner before that, the better," he said.

It is anticipated the new regulations would be focused on the city and not apply in the suburbs.

Lord Mayor Stephen Yarwood, who has joined Mr Rau for a tour of Melbourne examining which small bar licence model to introduce in Adelaide, said he wanted change "sooner rather than later".

Adelaide City Council has commissioned its own report on implementing small bar licences.

"It's overdue," Mr Yarwood said. "We have more laneway assets than Melbourne, and we're not utilising them."

[Waewick]

yes, Mr Yarwood, we have more laneways than Melbourne, but a qtr of the population

[Wayno]

yes, Mr Yarwood, we have more laneways than Melbourne, but a qtr of the population

such a negative post - what's your point?

[Giorgio]

Did he really just imply that Adelaide has more laneways than Melbourne?! For starters Melbourne's laneways are not cutoff by carparks like most of those in Adelaide. They also form important pedestrian thoroughfares right through the entire Melbourne CBD which is what has truly activated them. The only lane with that kind of traffic is James Pl.

Talk about delusional...

[Waewick]

yes, Mr Yarwood, we have more laneways than Melbourne, but a qtr of the population

such a negative post - what's your point?

my point is his point is silly and pointless (like mine )