News & Developments: Port Adelaide

[victorious80]

I agree in part with Crawf here. Development in the Port should centre around what makes the Port unique. I have no problem with new attractions, but I believe the focus should be on developing attractions in line with what the Port already has (or had) to offer - shipping, submarines, dolphines, working docks, etc. I hope they do not beautify the area too much and lose the grittiness and character of the place. Living next to industrial areas (or former industrial areas) can add a lot of character to an area. As long as the industry is not excessively negatively impacting on residents. The Port has a lot to offer - some great pubs, amazing old buildings, rich history and colourful characters - these need to be maintained and developed, rather than turning the area into a "drag and drop" waterfront development that looks like any other in Australia. I had dinner and drinks in the Port a few weeks ago (first time there for a year or so) and was amazed at some of the beautiful old abandoned buildings in the eastern areas of the Port. I would love to see that rather than build new style apartments, they focus on turning these beautiful old buildings into flats and warehouse style apartments. This is likely to be more expensive than building precast boxes, but perhaps the government could offer incentives that guide developers in this direction. Some good points have been made on this forum regarding bringing people into the Port before being able build/transform more residential buildings. And this will be the challenge - horse before the cart - people need a reason to live and visit there. As well as tourism, I do like the idea of a university or higher learning centre being based at the Port. I believe there was a TAFE on the wharf at some stage? At least it would bring young people into the area. And young people are generally the ones who prefer the apartment based, eat-out lifestyle. Anyway, just my thoughts. I am very happy to at least see discussion about the Port, as it shows people still have an interest in it.

[rev]

I had some detailed photos of the ones posted in here so far, of the proposed development from the public open day from sunday morning there, but my phone decided it wanted to hide them from me.
It actually didn't look too bad, but I don't think it's suited for the areas they've chosen.
As for the beach idea, they'll probably do something about the water quality if that eventuates. But I think in the long run if it does go ahead, it might be a catalyst for having the industry further up like the cement joint moved elsewhere.

The Port Adelaide train station, imo, is too far from the center of the Port to be of any practical use in attracting people.
Why not close that station, and spur off towards the center of the Port with an underground station?

The idea to move a government department down there is a good one though. All those extra workers will be a boost for local businesses.
Hopefully we get a nice glass office block of a reasonable size out of it

Ultimately I think what ever happens it needs to be outside the box, because I don't see people getting excited by the governments plans nor any apartment tower plans or the like after the failure of New Port.

[Port Adelaide Fan]

HMAS Parramatta and Navy Open Day is at Osborne on Sunday should be in Port Adelaide.

[pushbutton]

I'm not having a go at anyone, but just making an observation. It's interesting how what some call 'exciting and fun, others call 'tacky'. Also what some call 'ugly and derelict' others call 'gritty and interesting'!

That's ok. The world would certainly be boring if everyone had the same opinions. To me though Adelaide is pretty boring, and Port Adelaide could really do with completely flattening and redesigning to a masterplan. I could see it as potentially a place that could attract tourists, but it would need at least some of the attractions I mentioned above. I like museums too but by themselves they're just not very exciting for families compared to the sort of things on my list above.

Personally I can see no good reason why a good balance could not be achieved between keeping the best of the old bits and building exciting new attractions to compliment them.

[Stefan]

If the port could have something similar to hilerys in perth it would be amazing and then to fix up port adelaide as a whole like fremantal.

[ghs]

HMAS Parramatta and Navy Open Day is at Osborne on Sunday should be in Port Adelaide.

From what I understand this open day was held where there is good security at Osborne.
I think there would be security issues with having HMAS Parramatta at Port Adelaide.

[Nort]

I'm not having a go at anyone, but just making an observation. It's interesting how what some call 'exciting and fun, others call 'tacky'. Also what some call 'ugly and derelict' others call 'gritty and interesting'!

That's ok. The world would certainly be boring if everyone had the same opinions. To me though Adelaide is pretty boring, and Port Adelaide could really do with completely flattening and redesigning to a masterplan. I could see it as potentially a place that could attract tourists, but it would need at least some of the attractions I mentioned above. I like museums too but by themselves they're just not very exciting for families compared to the sort of things on my list above.

Personally I can see no good reason why a good balance could not be achieved between keeping the best of the old bits and building exciting new attractions to compliment them.

Port Adelaide already does attract tourists. Head down on a weekend or public holiday and there are tons of people around the markets and the waterfront where the dolphin cruises depart. What is needed is stuff that gives them incentive to hang around Port Adelaide.

[rev]

I'm not having a go at anyone, but just making an observation. It's interesting how what some call 'exciting and fun, others call 'tacky'. Also what some call 'ugly and derelict' others call 'gritty and interesting'!

That's ok. The world would certainly be boring if everyone had the same opinions. To me though Adelaide is pretty boring, and Port Adelaide could really do with completely flattening and redesigning to a masterplan. I could see it as potentially a place that could attract tourists, but it would need at least some of the attractions I mentioned above. I like museums too but by themselves they're just not very exciting for families compared to the sort of things on my list above.

Personally I can see no good reason why a good balance could not be achieved between keeping the best of the old bits and building exciting new attractions to compliment them.

Port Adelaide already does attract tourists. Head down on a weekend or public holiday and there are tons of people around the markets and the waterfront where the dolphin cruises depart. What is needed is stuff that gives them incentive to hang around Port Adelaide.

Theme Park ? plenty of empty land being used for sfa. Create an entertainment precinct with bars, restaurants, clubs..
Aquarium ?
Glass tunnel under the river as suggested by the mayor ? would give a new level to seeing the dolphins etc

The governments idea to move a department down there will boost day time activity and help local businesses.

But I still insist the image of the area needs to be changed. Along with the removal of industry like the cement plant and other polluting businesses around that area. Move up closer to the expressway at Gillman and further north towards Osborne and Outer Harbor where there is large areas of empty land near industrial sites.

I think it was also a mistake to allow those 2-3 level pre-fabricated houses around Mclaren parade.

The tafe campus there imo is on one of the best bits of land. Move it elsewhere and use that land for something else.

[pushbutton]

If it was up to me I would change the name of the suburb. "Port Adelaide" just has too many negative connotations.

[Aidan]

If it was up to me I would change the name of the suburb. "Port Adelaide" just has too many negative connotations.

Would I be right in deducing you barrack for Norwood?

Port Adelaide has plenty of positive connotations as well as negative ones, and does changing any suburb's name fix its image? It doesn't seem to have worked for Davoren Park!

[[Shuz]]

I think it's time for a thread title change to something a bit more positive?

Port Adelaide Development & News

[mattblack]

If it was up to me I would change the name of the suburb. "Port Adelaide" just has too many negative connotations.

Maybe change it back to its original name.............. Port Misery!

[Hooligan]

Was it Wayno that mentioned the caravan park idea?

think about it, low capital investment and the amount of people in the port on weekends would surge. Also it would attract a wide spectrum of people.

[Hooligan]

If it was up to me I would change the name of the suburb. "Port Adelaide" just has too many negative connotations.

Would I be right in deducing you barrack for Norwood?

Port Adelaide has plenty of positive connotations as well as negative ones, and does changing any suburb's name fix its image? It doesn't seem to have worked for Davoren Park!

You have a strange obsession of using Davoren Park for comparisons. Why?

[Aidan]

If it was up to me I would change the name of the suburb. "Port Adelaide" just has too many negative connotations.

Would I be right in deducing you barrack for Norwood?

Port Adelaide has plenty of positive connotations as well as negative ones, and does changing any suburb's name fix its image? It doesn't seem to have worked for Davoren Park!

You have a strange obsession of using Davoren Park for comparisons. Why?

Because it's reputedly Adelaide's worst suburb.

But if it makes you feel any better, I don't think renaming parts of Hackham and Hackham West to Onkaparinga Hills and Huntfield Heights was much of a success either.