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Re: U/C: Electrification & Upgrade of the Adelaide Rail Netw

#2386 Post by ChillyPhilly » Tue Feb 25, 2014 1:37 am

This is positively different.

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Re: U/C: Electrification & Upgrade of the Adelaide Rail Netw

#2387 Post by [Shuz] » Tue Feb 25, 2014 10:25 am

SEAFRD? :hilarious:
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Re: U/C: Electrification & Upgrade of the Adelaide Rail Netw

#2388 Post by mattblack » Tue Feb 25, 2014 10:42 am

[Shuz] wrote:SEAFRD? :hilarious:

Uummmmm .......... that's an abbreviation Shuz in keeping with the rest of the train timetables. Max 6 characters.

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U/C: Electrification & Upgrade of the Adelaide Rail Network

#2389 Post by Aidan » Tue Feb 25, 2014 11:32 am

mattblack wrote:
[Shuz] wrote:SEAFRD? :hilarious:

Uummmmm .......... that's an abbreviation Shuz in keeping with the rest of the train timetables. Max 6 characters.
of course it's an abbreviation - but why is it needed? What exactly is 7 characters too many for?
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Re: U/C: Electrification & Upgrade of the Adelaide Rail Netw

#2390 Post by Xaragmata » Tue Feb 25, 2014 11:49 pm

"Up" A-city electric set 4004 at Emerson - Monday

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Re: U/C: Electrification & Upgrade of the Adelaide Rail Netw

#2391 Post by monotonehell » Wed Feb 26, 2014 10:04 am

Aidan wrote:
mattblack wrote:
[Shuz] wrote:SEAFRD? :hilarious:
Uummmmm .......... that's an abbreviation Shuz in keeping with the rest of the train timetables. Max 6 characters.
of course it's an abbreviation - but why is it needed? What exactly is 7 characters too many for?
I suspect that is the character limit they decided upon for all their timetables, website headers and so on. Consistency is important for us OCD (CDO) types.
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Re: U/C: Electrification & Upgrade of the Adelaide Rail Netw

#2392 Post by rubberman » Wed Feb 26, 2014 10:44 am

monotonehell wrote: I suspect that is the character limit they decided upon for all their timetables, website headers and so on. Consistency is important for us OCD (CDO) types.
You mean AR (@nally Retentive) types, surely? :lol: :D

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Re: U/C: Electrification & Upgrade of the Adelaide Rail Netw

#2393 Post by monotonehell » Wed Feb 26, 2014 1:04 pm

rubberman wrote:
monotonehell wrote: I suspect that is the character limit they decided upon for all their timetables, website headers and so on. Consistency is important for us OCD (CDO) types.
You mean AR (@nally Retentive) types, surely? :lol: :D
No that would mean no change at all ;)
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Re: U/C: Electrification & Upgrade of the Adelaide Rail Netw

#2394 Post by AG » Wed Feb 26, 2014 6:33 pm

So apparently the express services are being instated for the Seaford Line from April on a Seaford-Seaford Meadows-Noarlunga-Adelaide basis.

I wonder if any 6-car trains will eventually be run.

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Re: U/C: Electrification & Upgrade of the Adelaide Rail Netw

#2395 Post by jk1237 » Thu Feb 27, 2014 2:30 pm

OK, I have a few days off so I went down to Seaford on the train. I didn't happen to get a new train, but oh well. The all stops was a bit excrutiating, especially because the 3000 trains are so slow in accelerating from stations, and the 2 car train almost struggled to get up the hills through Seacliff and Marino (infact it sounded like one of engines karked it, caus it was revving out of control). Amazingly, its been running 4 days and the quite large new carpark at Seaford was 95% full already, was quite surprised, next week when uni goes back it will probably be overflowing. The amount of temporary speed restrictions on brand new track is just torture, but its just so tradition for us. 15 min frequency is good, will be better when Tonsley opens so that Seaford trains can be express from city to Woodlands park

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Re: U/C: Electrification & Upgrade of the Adelaide Rail Netw

#2396 Post by fabricator » Thu Feb 27, 2014 7:59 pm

jk1237 wrote:OK, I have a few days off so I went down to Seaford on the train. I didn't happen to get a new train, but oh well. The all stops was a bit excrutiating, especially because the 3000 trains are so slow in accelerating from stations, and the 2 car train almost struggled to get up the hills through Seacliff and Marino (infact it sounded like one of engines karked it, caus it was revving out of control).
On the 3000's the engine revs are controlled by the generator/traction equipment. Sometimes it screws up and revs the engine up and down over and over, usually the engine stalls at some point.
That engine, the poor ride and weak aircon is what I don't like about the 3000's.

The 2000s and 4000s are about even par as far as having decent aircon and suspension.
I'd prefer the 4000s obviously, but the poles around Gawler don't have any wires yet, not been able to catch one myself due to the distance and time involved waiting at Adelaide station for one to show up.
jk1237 wrote:Amazingly, its been running 4 days and the quite large new carpark at Seaford was 95% full already, was quite surprised, next week when uni goes back it will probably be overflowing. The amount of temporary speed restrictions on brand new track is just torture, but its just so tradition for us. 15 min frequency is good, will be better when Tonsley opens so that Seaford trains can be express from city to Woodlands park
All brand new track has speed restrictions, it needs a second tamping to even things out it needed. The government owned tamper is only really suited to timber and steel sleepers, which are mostly gone.
And yeah, the signalling still has some gremlins to sort out, mostly signal sighting issues.
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Re: U/C: Electrification & Upgrade of the Adelaide Rail Netw

#2397 Post by muzzamo » Fri Feb 28, 2014 1:30 pm

AG wrote:So apparently the express services are being instated for the Seaford Line from April on a Seaford-Seaford Meadows-Noarlunga-Adelaide basis.

I wonder if any 6-car trains will eventually be run.
Oaklands can only do 5 cars which is a problem although not insurmountable.

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Re: U/C: Electrification & Upgrade of the Adelaide Rail Netw

#2398 Post by skyliner » Fri Feb 28, 2014 8:44 pm

Hope they do convert to six coach capacity - keep the Aldinga line in view. Used to take 8 coaches out to Largs once.

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Re: U/C: Electrification & Upgrade of the Adelaide Rail Netw

#2399 Post by muzzamo » Fri Feb 28, 2014 9:53 pm

I was speaking to a train driver mate of mine who told me they have actually tested with twelve (!) cars.

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Re: U/C: Electrification & Upgrade of the Adelaide Rail Netw

#2400 Post by AG » Fri Feb 28, 2014 9:55 pm

muzzamo wrote:I was speaking to a train driver mate of mine who told me they have actually tested with twelve (!) cars.
Nice foresight, but I don't think there'll ever be a need to run them as twelve car trains.

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