News & Discussion: Adelaide Metro Trains

[abc]

Where is your proof for this comment?

Its not a comment, it a question. Learn the difference.
This was all over the news about a decade ago.

If it was "all over the news" a decade ago where are you links to prove your argument?

There was an issue with cladding post 2017 after the Grenfell fire in London. Quite a different issue from "the apartments sinking".

This was before that.

[[Shuz]]

The apartments aren't sinking. That's completely bullshit.

However, what they are prone to is king tides during freak weather events where a storm surge coincides with a high tide event, the whole of the inner Port Adelaide harbour is at risk of flooding.

[rev]

The apartments aren't sinking. That's completely bullshit.

However, what they are prone to is king tides during freak weather events where a storm surge coincides with a high tide event, the whole of the inner Port Adelaide harbour is at risk of flooding.

It's in a "red zone", the only worst zone to be in is black.
It's one of the areas that will potentially be uninsurable in the near future as insurers become more risk adverse.

[rubberman]

The apartments aren't sinking. That's completely bullshit.

However, what they are prone to is king tides during freak weather events where a storm surge coincides with a high tide event, the whole of the inner Port Adelaide harbour is at risk of flooding.

As global warming effects increase, these events can be expected to become more common. Insurers will, of course, take note.

Perhaps they will find an ongoing market for those who don't believe in global warming.

[SBD]

The apartments aren't sinking. That's completely bullshit.

However, what they are prone to is king tides during freak weather events where a storm surge coincides with a high tide event, the whole of the inner Port Adelaide harbour is at risk of flooding.

It's in a "red zone", the only worst zone to be in is black.
It's one of the areas that will potentially be uninsurable in the near future as insurers become more risk adverse.

There is a significant difference between buildings on soft soil with insufficient foundations sinking into the ground compared to buildings on stable ground being inundated by high water events. Permanent or temporary levee banks can help to address the latter, but not the former, which might be addressable by injecting concrete slurry into the subsoil or similar kinds of treatment.

I doubt Port Adelaide would get the kind of treatment that London has at the mouth of the Thames, but I guess it's possible.

[EBG]

When my father was a child the whole area between the railway line and the sea from Outer Harbor and Osborne Stations was flooded and remained under water for days due to a storm and a king Tide. the whole of the Le Feve peninsular is subject to flooding under certain weather conditions.

[abc]

The apartments aren't sinking. That's completely bullshit.

However, what they are prone to is king tides during freak weather events where a storm surge coincides with a high tide event, the whole of the inner Port Adelaide harbour is at risk of flooding.

As global warming effects increase, these events can be expected to become more common. Insurers will, of course, take note.

Perhaps they will find an ongoing market for those who don't believe in global warming.

seriously just stop it

[Waewick]

The apartments aren't sinking. That's completely bullshit.

However, what they are prone to is king tides during freak weather events where a storm surge coincides with a high tide event, the whole of the inner Port Adelaide harbour is at risk of flooding.

As global warming effects increase, these events can be expected to become more common. Insurers will, of course, take note.

Perhaps they will find an ongoing market for those who don't believe in global warming.

I've heard that's a big issue in florida at the moment. Basically parts being close to uninsurable

[abc]

The apartments aren't sinking. That's completely bullshit.

However, what they are prone to is king tides during freak weather events where a storm surge coincides with a high tide event, the whole of the inner Port Adelaide harbour is at risk of flooding.

As global warming effects increase, these events can be expected to become more common. Insurers will, of course, take note.

Perhaps they will find an ongoing market for those who don't believe in global warming.

I've heard that's a big issue in florida at the moment. Basically parts being close to uninsurable

its in a hurricane zone, it always has been
and no they're not getting more frequent, if anything they're getting less frequent

[rubberman]

As global warming effects increase, these events can be expected to become more common. Insurers will, of course, take note.

Perhaps they will find an ongoing market for those who don't believe in global warming.

I've heard that's a big issue in florida at the moment. Basically parts being close to uninsurable

its in a hurricane zone, it always has been
and no they're not getting more frequent, if anything they're getting less frequent

Less frequent? Ok. So, no problem. Fine by me.

[rubberman]

Port Dock opening.

Trains to PD every 30 mins.

Most Outer Harbor trains express to Woodville.

https://www.adelaidemetro.com.au/about- ... ilway-line

[PeFe]

Frequencies of 30 minutes.....hardly conducive to get people to use public transport.

I would prefer to see the Grange line become a spur only, with people transferring at Woodville.

Then make Port Dock all stoppers to the city, Outer Harbour express to Woodville.

Frequencies count....having a train every 15 minutes makes people believe they can just turn up and a service will come within a reasonable time....30 minutes just doesn't cut it.

[Patrick_27]

Frequencies of 30 minutes.....hardly conducive to get people to use public transport.

I would prefer to see the Grange line become a spur only, with people transferring at Woodville.

Then make Port Dock all stoppers to the city, Outer Harbour express to Woodville.

Frequencies count....having a train every 15 minutes makes people believe they can just turn up and a service will come within a reasonable time....30 minutes just doesn't cut it.

I would rather see Grange close and government redirect and planned investment and annual expenditure saved elsewhere within the network, having travelled Grange both peak and inter peak, the line is virtually redundant and seems to only exist now out of the fact that neither party when in government want to face down the community uproar if they were to close it, even though the community don't seem to utilise the line whilst it's still there. I want to see the Adelaide metropolitan rail network expand and whilst Outer Harbour remains diesel this will not happen, and I suspect it remains diesel because the government are at a crossroad on whether or not to invest in the electrification of Grange or not.

[Spotto]

Frequencies of 30 minutes.....hardly conducive to get people to use public transport.

I would prefer to see the Grange line become a spur only, with people transferring at Woodville.

Then make Port Dock all stoppers to the city, Outer Harbour express to Woodville.

Frequencies count....having a train every 15 minutes makes people believe they can just turn up and a service will come within a reasonable time....30 minutes just doesn't cut it.

I would rather see Grange close and government redirect and planned investment and annual expenditure saved elsewhere within the network, having travelled Grange both peak and inter peak, the line is virtually redundant and seems to only exist now out of the fact that neither party when in government want to face down the community uproar if they were to close it, even though the community don't seem to utilise the line whilst it's still there. I want to see the Adelaide metropolitan rail network expand and whilst Outer Harbour remains diesel this will not happen, and I suspect it remains diesel because the government are at a crossroad on whether or not to invest in the electrification of Grange or not.

We have a line that’s already there, in good condition but is severely under-utilised. Surely a better use of money than closing and demolishing it would be to rezone the surrounding land to encourage dense living in the style of Bowden and Tonsley?

Take advantage of the infrastructure that already exists and use it to its potential!

Wasn’t the entire business case for the Port Dock extension to serve new dense living under construction? It would be the same thing for the Grange Line, only in reverse.

[PeFe]

Albert Park and Seaton Park are ideal for medium density development....as for East Grange and Grange no way...never...rich people who live in big houses with 4 bedrooms and 2 cars....
"We don't need public transport!"