News & Discussion: Adelaide Airport & Airlines

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Re: News & Discussion: Adelaide Airport & Airlines

#3241 Post by Ho Really » Tue Jul 30, 2024 2:30 pm

Anyone know why a Xiamen Air flight CXA803 Xiamen-Melbourne was diverted to ADL?

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Re: News & Discussion: Adelaide Airport & Airlines

#3242 Post by Saltwater » Tue Jul 30, 2024 2:34 pm

Just a guess but they had quite bad fog in Melbourne this morning, so if it wasn't carrying enough fuel to hold for an extended period they may have made the conservative decision to divert to Adelaide.

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Re: News & Discussion: Adelaide Airport & Airlines

#3243 Post by GrowAdelaide » Wed Jul 31, 2024 10:59 am

Yes was fog related

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Re: News & Discussion: Adelaide Airport & Airlines

#3244 Post by Ho Really » Wed Aug 14, 2024 9:27 pm

Ho Really wrote:
Tue Jul 16, 2024 1:07 am
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Yet they have not been made available on Singapore's website beyond march next year, hoping its also rectified soon. Or perhaps singapore have made a backflip decision to stick with daily instead of 10, with the inevitable return of Cathay and China Southern. I highlight this only because Melbourne and Sydney are available to book a multitude of services past march, hence my concern.

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Officially the last SQ276 flight (to SIN) is Friday 28 March 2025. Beyond that nothing is confirmed. Just like the 6 weekly flights between 30 NOV and 19 JAN mentioned by AAL. I contacted SIA. They said keep checking our schedules for any updates as they can change for a variety of factors. So it is not confirmed or denied. However I lean towards those extra flights being confirmed. It will be a test run that will hopefully bring twice daily next year.

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Viny, still no 6 weekly SQ276/SQ277 flights on SIA's schedule. Would be good to know what the advanced bookings (load factors) are on SQ276/SQ277 for all those flights over the period 27 OCT-29 MAR that are currently on the schedule and if it will warrant those extra flights. I'm itching to book a flight on a day currently not available in JAN.

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Guess what Viny? I was checking dates in mid January 2025 and yes SQ276/SQ277 six days a week! Hopefully soon I’ll be booking an evening flight to SIN so my layover will only be 3 hours.

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Re: News & Discussion: Adelaide Airport & Airlines

#3245 Post by VinyTapestry849 » Thu Aug 15, 2024 12:02 am

Ho Really wrote:
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Guess what Viny? I was checking dates in mid January 2025 and yes SQ276/SQ277 six days a week! Hopefully soon I’ll be booking an evening flight to SIN so my layover will only be 3 hours.

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Hell yeah, thanks for the heads up dude! :banana:

seems for a short time only though, shame

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Re: News & Discussion: Adelaide Airport & Airlines

#3246 Post by Saltwater » Thu Aug 15, 2024 9:07 am

Isn't that pretty normal for Singapore Air though, who run extra flights (SQ276/277) across December / January every year? I thought there was talk of making those permanent, but it seems to have fizzled out.

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Re: News & Discussion: Adelaide Airport & Airlines

#3247 Post by VinyTapestry849 » Thu Aug 15, 2024 11:00 am

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Isn't that pretty normal for Singapore Air though, who run extra flights (SQ276/277) across December / January every year? I thought there was talk of making those permanent, but it seems to have fizzled out.
They've increased flights before yeah, but they have never done double daily 6x a week before to Adelaide, ever. Thats why its important

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Re: News & Discussion: Adelaide Airport & Airlines

#3248 Post by Norman » Fri Aug 16, 2024 6:21 pm

Yes, in previous summers it was only 3 or 4 flights per week.

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Re: News & Discussion: Adelaide Airport & Airlines

#3249 Post by rubberman » Sat Aug 17, 2024 11:57 am

In the O-Bahn topic, the discussion is straying over airport topics, so I am just bringing up the airport side of it here, rather than go too far off the O-Bahn subject.

In particular, the O-Bahn discussion referred to the poor infrastructure at the airport for buses, and the poor impression it gives visitors who use public transport.

The main problem is that while car users get dropped off near the lift, and can have enclosed access to the terminal, public transport users have a long walk exposed to the weather. This includes taxi users.

It's reminiscent of the days when Adelaide Airport used to be the last one boarding via stairs on the tarmac in all weathers.

Surely Adelaide can do better for taxi and bus users. An enclosed walkway from the terminal past the taxi rank is a fairly simple and cheap proposition. Similarly, a more substantial shelter at the bus stop itself is surely in order for South Australia's major tourist gateway. The present entry for both taxi and bus passengers is just...backward.

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Re: News & Discussion: Adelaide Airport & Airlines

#3250 Post by VinyTapestry849 » Sat Aug 17, 2024 12:44 pm

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Sat Aug 17, 2024 11:57 am
In the O-Bahn topic, the discussion is straying over airport topics, so I am just bringing up the airport side of it here, rather than go too far off the O-Bahn subject.

In particular, the O-Bahn discussion referred to the poor infrastructure at the airport for buses, and the poor impression it gives visitors who use public transport.

The main problem is that while car users get dropped off near the lift, and can have enclosed access to the terminal, public transport users have a long walk exposed to the weather. This includes taxi users.

It's reminiscent of the days when Adelaide Airport used to be the last one boarding via stairs on the tarmac in all weathers.

Surely Adelaide can do better for taxi and bus users. An enclosed walkway from the terminal past the taxi rank is a fairly simple and cheap proposition. Similarly, a more substantial shelter at the bus stop itself is surely in order for South Australia's major tourist gateway. The present entry for both taxi and bus passengers is just...backward.
When significant Airport developments begin from now to around 2035, there will be provisions for new bus drop-off areas around the second multi-story carpark and more space for car drop-offs

The only suitable and long term solution for public transport to the airport is a heavy/light rail link to the airport, and its not happening. The airport will not get a rail upgrade anytime soon. However there are vague plans in this graphic below in the airport master plan for an tram branch line off the Glenelg line though
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Re: News & Discussion: Adelaide Airport & Airlines

#3251 Post by rubberman » Sat Aug 17, 2024 2:25 pm

VinyTapestry849 wrote:
Sat Aug 17, 2024 12:44 pm
rubberman wrote:
Sat Aug 17, 2024 11:57 am
In the O-Bahn topic, the discussion is straying over airport topics, so I am just bringing up the airport side of it here, rather than go too far off the O-Bahn subject.

In particular, the O-Bahn discussion referred to the poor infrastructure at the airport for buses, and the poor impression it gives visitors who use public transport.

The main problem is that while car users get dropped off near the lift, and can have enclosed access to the terminal, public transport users have a long walk exposed to the weather. This includes taxi users.

It's reminiscent of the days when Adelaide Airport used to be the last one boarding via stairs on the tarmac in all weathers.

Surely Adelaide can do better for taxi and bus users. An enclosed walkway from the terminal past the taxi rank is a fairly simple and cheap proposition. Similarly, a more substantial shelter at the bus stop itself is surely in order for South Australia's major tourist gateway. The present entry for both taxi and bus passengers is just...backward.
When significant Airport developments begin from now to around 2035, there will be provisions for new bus drop-off areas around the second multi-story carpark and more space for car drop-offs

The only suitable and long term solution for public transport to the airport is a heavy/light rail link to the airport, and its not happening. The airport will not get a rail upgrade anytime soon. However there are vague plans in this graphic below in the airport master plan for an tram branch line off the Glenelg line though
That's pretty much exactly what we have today. A long walk in the weather. That's ok on a fine day as depicted, but inadequate in poor weather. Again, just the mentality of the old system of having everyone walk to planes on the tarmac and use stairs.

In the meantime, let's update the existing taxi and bus access to 1980s standards at least.

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Re: News & Discussion: Adelaide Airport & Airlines

#3252 Post by 1NEEDS2POST » Sat Aug 17, 2024 8:23 pm

rubberman wrote:
Sat Aug 17, 2024 11:57 am
In the O-Bahn topic, the discussion is straying over airport topics, so I am just bringing up the airport side of it here, rather than go too far off the O-Bahn subject.

In particular, the O-Bahn discussion referred to the poor infrastructure at the airport for buses, and the poor impression it gives visitors who use public transport.

The main problem is that while car users get dropped off near the lift, and can have enclosed access to the terminal, public transport users have a long walk exposed to the weather. This includes taxi users.

It's reminiscent of the days when Adelaide Airport used to be the last one boarding via stairs on the tarmac in all weathers.

Surely Adelaide can do better for taxi and bus users. An enclosed walkway from the terminal past the taxi rank is a fairly simple and cheap proposition. Similarly, a more substantial shelter at the bus stop itself is surely in order for South Australia's major tourist gateway. The present entry for both taxi and bus passengers is just...backward.
At the moment, buses need to travel a long way after stopping at the bus stop to get back to Sir Donald Bradman Drive. The route buses take is shown in the following map.
Existing.png
It's needlessly long because buses need to drive around another two roundabouts. The easiest solution is to simply move the bus stop to Atura Circuit where the taxi drop-off is located. There's enough room for both buses and taxis there. After stopping at this new bus stop, buses could return to the main roundabout on Sir Richard Williams Avenue, making the route significantly shorter, whether that's to Glenelg or the city.
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Re: News & Discussion: Adelaide Airport & Airlines

#3253 Post by dbl96 » Sun Aug 18, 2024 10:15 am

Also they could cut out that little dog-leg into the business park and relocate that bus stop onto the side of Airport Rd.

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Re: News & Discussion: Adelaide Airport & Airlines

#3254 Post by VinyTapestry849 » Sun Aug 18, 2024 10:51 am

1NEEDS2POST wrote:
Sat Aug 17, 2024 8:23 pm
rubberman wrote:
Sat Aug 17, 2024 11:57 am
In the O-Bahn topic, the discussion is straying over airport topics, so I am just bringing up the airport side of it here, rather than go too far off the O-Bahn subject.

In particular, the O-Bahn discussion referred to the poor infrastructure at the airport for buses, and the poor impression it gives visitors who use public transport.

The main problem is that while car users get dropped off near the lift, and can have enclosed access to the terminal, public transport users have a long walk exposed to the weather. This includes taxi users.

It's reminiscent of the days when Adelaide Airport used to be the last one boarding via stairs on the tarmac in all weathers.

Surely Adelaide can do better for taxi and bus users. An enclosed walkway from the terminal past the taxi rank is a fairly simple and cheap proposition. Similarly, a more substantial shelter at the bus stop itself is surely in order for South Australia's major tourist gateway. The present entry for both taxi and bus passengers is just...backward.
At the moment, buses need to travel a long way after stopping at the bus stop to get back to Sir Donald Bradman Drive. The route buses take is shown in the following map.

Existing.png

It's needlessly long because buses need to drive around another two roundabouts. The easiest solution is to simply move the bus stop to Atura Circuit where the taxi drop-off is located. There's enough room for both buses and taxis there. After stopping at this new bus stop, buses could return to the main roundabout on Sir Richard Williams Avenue, making the route significantly shorter, whether that's to Glenelg or the city.

Atura.png
Problem with that last option is that buses leaving the airport and trying to get back on the main roundabout will could become a bottleneck in future if there are more bus services sent to the airport over time. Since other cars coming INTO the airport will be constantly cutting across the roundabout to get to the terminal, holding all the buses up.

Not even mentioning all the future taxi traffic in that area too

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Re: News & Discussion: Adelaide Airport & Airlines

#3255 Post by SBD » Mon Aug 19, 2024 5:42 pm

VinyTapestry849 wrote:
Sun Aug 18, 2024 10:51 am
1NEEDS2POST wrote:
Sat Aug 17, 2024 8:23 pm
rubberman wrote:
Sat Aug 17, 2024 11:57 am
In the O-Bahn topic, the discussion is straying over airport topics, so I am just bringing up the airport side of it here, rather than go too far off the O-Bahn subject.

In particular, the O-Bahn discussion referred to the poor infrastructure at the airport for buses, and the poor impression it gives visitors who use public transport.

The main problem is that while car users get dropped off near the lift, and can have enclosed access to the terminal, public transport users have a long walk exposed to the weather. This includes taxi users.

It's reminiscent of the days when Adelaide Airport used to be the last one boarding via stairs on the tarmac in all weathers.

Surely Adelaide can do better for taxi and bus users. An enclosed walkway from the terminal past the taxi rank is a fairly simple and cheap proposition. Similarly, a more substantial shelter at the bus stop itself is surely in order for South Australia's major tourist gateway. The present entry for both taxi and bus passengers is just...backward.
At the moment, buses need to travel a long way after stopping at the bus stop to get back to Sir Donald Bradman Drive. The route buses take is shown in the following map.

Existing.png

It's needlessly long because buses need to drive around another two roundabouts. The easiest solution is to simply move the bus stop to Atura Circuit where the taxi drop-off is located. There's enough room for both buses and taxis there. After stopping at this new bus stop, buses could return to the main roundabout on Sir Richard Williams Avenue, making the route significantly shorter, whether that's to Glenelg or the city.

Atura.png
Problem with that last option is that buses leaving the airport and trying to get back on the main roundabout will could become a bottleneck in future if there are more bus services sent to the airport over time. Since other cars coming INTO the airport will be constantly cutting across the roundabout to get to the terminal, holding all the buses up.

Not even mentioning all the future taxi traffic in that area too
I imagine the traffic lights at Sir Donald Bradman Drive create regular gaps in the stream of traffic that would permit buses to get back onto the roundabout just as quickly as the current long loop. If the roundabout ever gets completely gummed up, then there's a traffic management problem somewhere else too.

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