News & Discussion: General CBD Development

[Nort]

oops

What's happening here?

Looks like they're forcing pedestrian traffic onto the road?

[Plasmatron]

Iconic live music venue Enigma Bar set to be bulldozed

https://www.realcommercial.com.au/news/ ... -bulldozed

The iconic Enigma Bar site on Hindley Street looks set to be transformed into high-rise accommodation after being listed for sale with price hopes of more than $10m.

An international hotel chain, government and private developers are among the “genuine inquiries’’ for the Manera Building at 165-177 Hindley Street, said Adelaide Commercial Specialists founding director Michael Conley.

Mr Conley, who has fielded more than 50 inquiries about the property since it hit the market last week, said the site was able to be developed 53m, or about 13 storeys, high.

However, should the buyer put forward a housing proposal that contained 15 per cent affordable housing and ground floor retail space, there was scope under planning regulations to develop even higher, he said.

[Nathan]

Love how all the headlines about this imply they're "knocking down Enigma", when the bar closed 17 months ago.

[SouthAussie94]

Iconic live music venue Enigma Bar set to be bulldozed

https://www.realcommercial.com.au/news/ ... -bulldozed

The iconic Enigma Bar site on Hindley Street looks set to be transformed into high-rise accommodation after being listed for sale with price hopes of more than $10m.

An international hotel chain, government and private developers are among the “genuine inquiries’’ for the Manera Building at 165-177 Hindley Street, said Adelaide Commercial Specialists founding director Michael Conley.

Mr Conley, who has fielded more than 50 inquiries about the property since it hit the market last week, said the site was able to be developed 53m, or about 13 storeys, high.

However, should the buyer put forward a housing proposal that contained 15 per cent affordable housing and ground floor retail space, there was scope under planning regulations to develop even higher, he said.

I'm somewhat surprised that the building isn't heritage given the stone facade. Street level has obviously been butchered a fair bit, but the upper floor is quite nice to look at.

Obviously, the argument that just because it's old, doesn't make it heritage holds true.

Will be interesting to see what's proposed for this site.

[[Shuz]]

Bet you whatever is proposed will far exceed the height limit.

[Patrick_27]

Iconic live music venue Enigma Bar set to be bulldozed

https://www.realcommercial.com.au/news/ ... -bulldozed

The iconic Enigma Bar site on Hindley Street looks set to be transformed into high-rise accommodation after being listed for sale with price hopes of more than $10m.

An international hotel chain, government and private developers are among the “genuine inquiries’’ for the Manera Building at 165-177 Hindley Street, said Adelaide Commercial Specialists founding director Michael Conley.

Mr Conley, who has fielded more than 50 inquiries about the property since it hit the market last week, said the site was able to be developed 53m, or about 13 storeys, high.

However, should the buyer put forward a housing proposal that contained 15 per cent affordable housing and ground floor retail space, there was scope under planning regulations to develop even higher, he said.

I'm somewhat surprised that the building isn't heritage given the stone facade. Street level has obviously been butchered a fair bit, but the upper floor is quite nice to look at.

Obviously, the argument that just because it's old, doesn't make it heritage holds true.

Will be interesting to see what's proposed for this site.

If you recall, the site that Hindley Street Music Hall sits on had a similar building that was the oldest building on Hindley Street and that still was torn down.

[Nort]

Bigger issue here is Jive next door. It should be safe due to the rules the government announced around the Cranker campaign, where a neighbouring residential development is responsible for sound proofing and can't have an existing live music venue shut down for the noise. However that list still hasn't been formalised.

[5000]

Bigger issue here is Jive next door. It should be safe due to the rules the government announced around the Cranker campaign, where a neighbouring residential development is responsible for sound proofing and can't have an existing live music venue shut down for the noise. However that list still hasn't been formalised.

"Sound proof" does not exist.
Renders looks like an office building.
Have I missed something?

[Ben]

Bigger issue here is Jive next door. It should be safe due to the rules the government announced around the Cranker campaign, where a neighbouring residential development is responsible for sound proofing and can't have an existing live music venue shut down for the noise. However that list still hasn't been formalised.

"Sound proof" does not exist.
Renders looks like an office building.
Have I missed something?

The render is a concept for sale purposes only.

[EBG]

77-87 Franklin St is being demolished to build something ?? picture 30/4/2025

[gnrc_louis]

77-87 Franklin St is being demolished to build something ?? picture 30/4/2025

Can't see anything on PlanSA, I'm guessing an open air carpark for the time being?

[Bobski]

There's an interesting Reddit thread about that site:

https://www.reddit.com/r/Adelaide/comme ... t_next_to/

[EBG]

It was this crapppy building between the existing multi story car park on the corner of Pitt st and the bus depot.

[Nort]

Based on that Reddit thread and how long the site has been empty my guess is it was just cheaper to demolish than to pay for security.

[Patrick_27]

It was this crapppy building between the existing multi story car park on the corner of Pitt st and the bus depot.

It's not necessarily crappy, it's just rundown, cleaned up and I think it would have made for a great frontage for whatever ends up on the site.