PRO: Port Adelaide Tramline | $260m

[Aidan]

Just something to remember... once the new Train/Trams are in operation, the City Shuttle will cease. This will mean more services in peak hour for the Glenelg line (Say, every 5 Mins)

Am I the only one who doubts this claim?

Well, there's no point as the West Lakes and Semaphore tram lines will traverse the City instead of the City Shuttles.

I mean the bit about peak services every 5 minutes on the Glenelg line. Having a decent service through the City will be good, but assuming they'll all continue to Glenelg, even just in the peaks, looks like wishful thinking to me.

[Will409]

Aidan, if you have a look at the current timetable in the afternoon peak from City West to Glenelg, there are already about 4 services around 5:00pm that leave at 5 minute intervals. It can (and to a limited extent, is) being done.

[Norman]

Seattle has some of the new Flexity Links we may be getting. Well, at least they look like the Flexity Links.

Video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q2myRksMeNg&NR=1

Article: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Central_Link

[Düsseldorfer]

Seattle has some of the new Flexity Links we may be getting. Well, at least they look like the Flexity Links.

Video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q2myRksMeNg&NR=1

Article: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Central_Link

those Seatle trams look like a Japanese/US version of the Cologne K4500's (a Flexity Swift) the ones in Seatle were apparently made by: Kinkisharyo-Mitsui

Bombardier Flexity Link trams look much cooler


maybe this is what the new tram-trains will look like :

[Shuz]

Ooooh, so very exciting news!
The stops are just where I predicted they would be. Good planning by the government.

Did anyone manage to catch the little article on p.38 of the Saturday Advertiser?

Tram links for the city

Future tramline extensions will include loops through the city, Transport Minister Patrick Conlon has confirmed. In Budget estimatres hearings this week Mr Conlon said city-loop tramlines were "an inevitabliltiy because they add such value". Mr Conlon also confirmed an extension of the Noarlunga to Seaford would be built in the future. Onkaparinga Council has long been pushing for the extension but the Government says the move is not yet financially worthwhile.

[Ho Really]

Tram links for the city

Future tramline extensions will include loops through the city, Transport Minister Patrick Conlon has confirmed. In Budget estimatres hearings this week Mr Conlon said city-loop tramlines were "an inevitabliltiy because they add such value". Mr Conlon also confirmed an extension of the Noarlunga to Seaford would be built in the future. Onkaparinga Council has long been pushing for the extension but the Government says the move is not yet financially worthwhile.

Good to see they intend to go ahead with a loop somewhere in the city. Let's hope it includes the eastern side as well.

Cheers

[skyliner]

IMO the trams are the right move considering petrol prices, food prices and inflation. MUCH better than massive inner city road programs.Trams are at their most effective/efficient level of operation in such areas.

TheSA gov't also got it right with the rail side -almost too late. Here in B'bane 1/10th of cars are already off the road due to above causative factors.(all in recent times - on the news last night).

ADELAIDE - CITY ON THE MOVE

[Adamo]

Taking a guess we would presume to see some actual documentation, plans and renders for the tram line extension to the entertainment center at least in a few months before early 2009 construction commences?

[Will409]

Using the experience of the Victoria Square - City West line as a guide, we will have a:

- News articles (paper and TV) with new renders shown about 10-8 months before work commences.
- Glossy public info brochure about the extension (use to the public, comparison between tram and bus figures and the like) about 6-8 months before work commences. The renders will most likely be replicated also.
- Actual construction timetables and maps showing where the work will be taking place will appear 2-3 weeks before work commences. These maps will be in the paper and on the DTEI website. For example.

During the last extension, the public/railfans were kept very much in the know about what was happening ahead of the actual work itself with almost any and every detail covered.

[Will409]

The tender for the additional trams for use on the Glenelg line has been let. Looks like they could possibly be permanent rather then stop gap additions to the fleet as well.

http://www.tenders.sa.gov.au/tenders/te ... er-details

THE SUPPLY OF SIX READILY AVAILABLE TRAMCARS IN FULL WORKING ORDER, COMPATIBLE WITH THE ADELAIDE (SOUTH AUSTRALIA) LIGHT RAIL SYSTEM, UNDER A LEASE OR PURCHASE AGREEMENT

Issued by Department for Transport, Energy and Infrastructure

Request for Proposal
Tender State: Current Tender
Tender Code: DTEI016091
Contract Number: 08C129
Category: Unassigned

[AtD]

Looking at the tender docs (using the cunning ABN of "none"), it appears that they are seeking tenders for both new and second hand tramcars, low floor, with a crush load of at least 180 and a seated load of at least 60. Remember, this is just a tender request, not a crystal ball.

[Shuz]

Why can't they just package them with the other order of Flexities they were going to get anyway?

Or would these trams be coming from within Australia, say to 'borrow' Melbourne's trams? That reminds me of a photo I saw last year where a Melbourne tram (96 route type) were operating, but with Adelaide localities on its screenshield - maybe they want to seek out these ones, as I know the 96 stock are being replaced already with newer ones.

[Norman]

Shuz, there is no specific type of tram for every route in Melbourne

Here they are:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trams_in_Melbourne#Fleet

And I think that Melbourne is using all its trams, they don't have any spare.

[Shuz]

I know theres no specific type for every route, but I definetly do know that the D class and operate the 96 route. The Z class used to until last year in conjunction with the D class. How I know this, because my dad's backyard fronts directly onto that route.

[Will409]

To give you an idea of how short of tram stock Melbourne is at the present time, they have had to lease 5 Citadis trams from Mulhouse (in France for those who do not know) for a period of 5 years as well as return a few Z1 class trams that had been allocated to the heritage fleet back into revenue service. There is no way we can borrow trams from Melbourne if they can't even supply their own needs, let alone our's.