#VIS: Riverside (Entertainment Precinct)

[ricecrackers]

why do we need a retractable roof stadium anyway?

as long as the roof covers the spectators, thats all that matters as primarily it will be used for outdoor sports. The extra $350 million probably all goes on the retractable roof technology.........a waste of money in my opinion. some of that money would be better spent on extra seating as i believe it would strengthen the business case for the SANFL in particular.

arena events of the size they have in Melbourne are few and far between here in Adelaide. A 5K to 10K seat arena is enough for the scale of indoor events we get here.

[adam73837]

why do we need a retractable roof stadium anyway?

as long as the roof covers the spectators, thats all that matters as primarily it will be used for outdoor sports. The extra $350 million probably all goes on the retractable roof technology.........a waste of money in my opinion. some of that money would be better spent on extra seating as i believe it would strengthen the business case for the SANFL in particular.

arena events of the size they have in Melbourne are few and far between here in Adelaide. A 5K to 10K seat arena is enough for the scale of indoor events we get here.

<wipes tear> Yes, I totally agree with you ricecrackers. Look at ANZ Stadium. One of the greatest stadiums in Australia (IMO) and does it have a roof? No, it has a brilliant design that covers nearly all of the spectators in a shell-like thing . Make the new Stadium something like that all the way around (which I think would in turn make it similar to what Stadium WA would have looked like).

[ricecrackers]

i think it all stems from a bad case of Melbournephilia

[Mants]

RIVERSIDE MOTHERF*CKER!!!

had to be said

[Omicron]

RIVERSIDE MOTHERF*CKER!!!

had to be said

Ahaha!

Had to be laughed at

[ricecrackers]

the Liberals could be onto something by buying into the whole pitting the "Stadium vs Hospital" debate thing.

Rann may regret he ever made this an issue about those 2 things in a head to head.

Think about it, hospitals represent sickness and death to a lot of people....while they're an absolute necessity, its not something most of us want to think about a lot of the time.

On the other hand, stadiums represent life, and a lot of it. (they also represent something which brings out the pack hunting instinct of male humans in particular) the feel good factor can not be underestimated.

I think i understand now while the Liberals are riding this one all the way to the next election.

[crawf]

Will the Libs continue with the Rann Government's 30-year vision for Adelaide including TODs?

At least $200 million from the sale of AAMI Stadium and the $350 million budgeted for tram line extensions and upgrading football's West Lakes headquarters would offset the $900 million bill for the city venue for all football codes.

I think the tramline extension should still go ahead. It would open up West Lakes, Port Adelaide and Semaphore.

[ricecrackers]

Will the Libs continue with the Rann Government's 30-year vision for Adelaide including TODs?

At least $200 million from the sale of AAMI Stadium and the $350 million budgeted for tram line extensions and upgrading football's West Lakes headquarters would offset the $900 million bill for the city venue for all football codes.

I think the tramline extension should still go ahead. It would open up West Lakes, Port Adelaide and Semaphore.

30 year vision, now there's a vote winner!

with the average age of the state somewhere in their 40's most of us will be dead by then...who cares about a 30 year vision.

i'd rather see a 5 year plan.

and as for TODs, its not like that was the Labor party's idea. i remember reading on one of these types of forums, someone had that idea for Adelaide long before Rann's mob.

[Cruise]

And at this point neither AFL or SACA wants to use the stadium.

For good reason to.

Yeah? And here's a good reason for them to move into town:

But as a critical lure to win the SANFL's support, Mr Hamilton-Smith is offering the football league control and ownership of the city venue. He detailed his plan in a meeting with SANFL chief executive Leigh Whicker on Friday.

"They would have to make the stadium available for the World Cup, Commonwealth Games, soccer and major events - but have a commercial incentive to do so," he said.

Look What is happening in Melbourne, AFL clubs are struggling with the rents of Docklands and the seats never get reconfigured for the soccer season due to the cost of the process.

[Cruise]

Will the Libs continue with the Rann Government's 30-year vision for Adelaide including TODs?

Pfft who cares, I could be dead by then.

At least $200 million from the sale of AAMI Stadium and the $350 million budgeted for tram line extensions and upgrading football's West Lakes headquarters would offset the $900 million bill for the city venue for all football codes.

I think the tramline extension should still go ahead. It would open up West Lakes, Port Adelaide and Semaphore.

I agree with the tram extensions, with the exception of the semaphore line though

[crawf]

30 year vision, now there's a vote winner!

with the average age of the state somewhere in their 40's most of us will be dead by then...who cares about a 30 year vision.

i'd rather see a 5 year plan.

The long-term is more important than the short-term.

Adelaide has never really planned for the future, so its good a State Government has come up with a 30-year plan for Greater Adelaide.

BTW its not like the whole plan is going to take 30 years to complete.

I agree with the tram extensions, with the exception of the semaphore line though

I disagree, it should still go ahead. Semaphore is one of the most underrated suburbs of Adelaide.

[Will]

I do not like these ultimatums.

We are being forced to choose between improving our public transport and a new stadium.

Although I strongly support both, fixing our public transport is much more important than a new stadium.

[skyliner]

Well said mate. That is the upshot of it all unfortunately. I have referred to this concept before - it's all going to rate heavily on popularity of the idea for the opposition and how hard/realistically they sell it.

ADELAIDE - TOWARDS A GREATER CITY SKYLINE.

[cruel_world00]

http://www.news.com.au/adelaidenow/stor ... 01,00.html

Choose stadium now, Libs tell SANFL

MICHELANGELO RUCCI

April 23, 2009 12:01am

STATE Opposition Leader Martin Hamilton-Smith has called on the SANFL to choose between his offer of a new city stadium or sharing the Adelaide Oval.

He offered no support for AAMI Stadium, effectively leaving the football league further isolated on its $190 million plans to redevelop the West Lakes arena.

The State Government has deferred its $100 million commitment to redeveloping AAMI Stadium and vowed to redirect money to Adelaide Oval if AFL games are sanctioned there.

Mr Hamilton-Smith yesterday handed the SANFL and its AFL clubs, the Crows and Power, his policy paper on a $900 million stadium on the city's western fringe.

If the SANFL opts for a new alliance with the SA Cricket Association at Adelaide Oval, the Opposition will cancel its plans.

Mr Hamilton-Smith last night said his plan gives the SANFL the city venue it wanted – but was denied – in 1969 when it voted to move from Adelaide Oval. He says the stadium would be funded equally by the federal and state governments and football codes.

Mr Hamilton-Smith's $300 million commitment from state funds would be found by cancelling government plans to redevelop AAMI Stadium and a tramline there. Control of the venue would be handed to the SANFL on completion by 2017.

Treasurer Kevin Foley described the Opposition plan as a "joke". "You could drive a ship through the costings," he said.

"Three months ago, Mr Hamilton-Smith said the stadium would cost $520 million and nothing to the taxpayer. Now it has blown out by $400 million. The state cannot afford it."

In the Opposition's plans, the SANFL would hold a 100-year renewable lease on the site, opposite the parklands at the Port Rd-West Tce corner where the league wanted to build its headquarters in 1969. "This is the only option which gives the SANFL a stadium of its own in the city – and we offer to pay for it," Mr Hamilton-Smith said. "The SANFL would have an asset worth $900 million compared with the $300 million it has now at West Lakes.

"It would have the latest, up-to-date stadium in Australia. SA would have a stadium creating an economic benefit in the city that is not possible at West Lakes."

The multi-purpose arena would be a key to the state's bid for the 2018 World Cup soccer finals and the 2018 or 2022 Commonwealth Games.

The SANFL reiterated it would consider any option to leave AAMI Stadium if the football league "is significantly better off".

[Ben]

From The Messenger:

Bold plan for tired riverbank

By Adam Todd

UPGRADE: Support is gathering for a revamp of the Torrens Riverbank.

THE Torrens Riverbank area could rival Melbourne’s MCG and tennis centre precinct with a united vision, key stakeholders say.

Chiefs from the Convention Centre, Festival Centre, Hyatt Regency, SACA, Tennis SA and the SA Tourism Commission gathered for the first time last month at a meeting organised by the City Council.

They called for a precinct masterplan and offered unanimous support for a proposed footbridge from Elder Park.

With billions of dollars worth of development proposed for the area in coming years including the new Royal Adelaide Hospital and upgrades at Adelaide Oval, Memorial Drive and the Convention Centre they agreed there needed to be a co-ordinated way ahead.

Tennis SA CEO Alistair MacDonald said, with Adelaide Oval and Memorial Drive Tennis Centre, the Riverbank had the potential to emulate Melbourne.

“Melbourne is the benchmark and it’s very rare that you get a sporting precinct like we’ve got down here and there’s great opportunities to be at the forefront of sport and entertainment in the city,” he said.

Adelaide Convention Centre CEO Alec Gilbert agreed the precinct could be “special”, but needed to be treated as a priority."I think the whole Riverbank precinct is probably one of the most important precincts in the city and I believe we should be concentrating our efforts here and not dividing our scarce resources elsewhere, such as Victoria Sq,” he said.

“I think the precinct needs to be more than just Elder Park, it needs to be from the weir right the way through to the RAH, on both sides.”

Mr Gilbert said his top priorities were extending the promenade through to the Morphett St bridge, building the proposed footbridge and creating clear pedestrian thoroughfares to the Riverbank from North Tce.

“Pedestrian flows are important, and I think that would help bring people back to the city and the Riverbank.”

Adelaide Festival Centre CEO Douglas Gautier said the precinct was “not far off” being world class.

“All the ingredients are there they just need to be connected better and certainly international experience shows where you have institutions and facilities in close proximity in a great setting, they’re usually much better off when they’re thinking collectively as a precinct,” he said.

Mr Gautier said packaging events across several venues and more cross-marketing would help attract more people.

“People need to know there’s always something on when they come down.”

SA Tourism Commission CEO Andrew McEvoy said the precinct was potentially “one of the world’s most aesthetically pleasing meeting places”. He said there were 12 million foot traffic movements around the Riverbank every year.

“It’s a significant area but at the moment most people just rush on by rather than stopping and appreciating it.

“So a co-ordinated approach of making more of the people who already go and attracting more people to go, is a great thought.”

No timeline has yet been set for the creation of the masterplan.