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Re: Bowden Village TOD (Clipsal site)
In true Tiser fashion they don't actually say who is released these plans and where they can be viewed by the public. Does anyone know?
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Re: Bowden Village TOD (Clipsal site)
I went looking on the LMC site for Bowden, and there was nothing there. It seems that there was an open day on the weekend where the public got their first look at the plans and so far that's it.AtD wrote:In true Tiser fashion they don't actually say who is released these plans and where they can be viewed by the public. Does anyone know?
Re: Bowden Village TOD (Clipsal site)
I was chatting with Paul Holloway about the Bowden TOD recently. Here's what he shared:
His main concern is getting the ambience of the TOD spot on. He sincerely wants this TOD to be a shining light, an example for the world, for it to be a *game-changer* in desired living styles for SA. To that end he talked about the need for a *loose-tight* approach to property development - a balance between "planned design vs eclectic growth". He said that 2-3 developers will most likely be involved, chosen by the distinctiveness of their plans/ideas. So while i am excited about this approach, i can't help but think that *someone* in govt will be consciously deciding (in advance) what constitutes eclectic growth.
Oh, and when asked about timeframes for TOD completion he said 10-15yrs.
His main concern is getting the ambience of the TOD spot on. He sincerely wants this TOD to be a shining light, an example for the world, for it to be a *game-changer* in desired living styles for SA. To that end he talked about the need for a *loose-tight* approach to property development - a balance between "planned design vs eclectic growth". He said that 2-3 developers will most likely be involved, chosen by the distinctiveness of their plans/ideas. So while i am excited about this approach, i can't help but think that *someone* in govt will be consciously deciding (in advance) what constitutes eclectic growth.
Oh, and when asked about timeframes for TOD completion he said 10-15yrs.
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Re: Bowden Village TOD (Clipsal site)
Any mention on when the first stage will be commenced? I'd seriously consider buying in if places start becoming available in the next few years.
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sorry, not sure...Nathan wrote:Any mention on when the first stage will be commenced? I'd seriously consider buying in if places start becoming available in the next few years.
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Re: Bowden Village TOD (Clipsal site)
Visualisation (powerpoint) from the LMC of how one of the laneways might look:
http://www.lmc.sa.gov.au/_inc/track_dow ... sp?did=441
http://www.lmc.sa.gov.au/_inc/track_dow ... sp?did=441
Re: Bowden Village TOD (Clipsal site)
Snippet from a larger article.
http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/sas-most- ... 5835059477AdelaideNow wrote:Meanwhile the Opposition re-announced their plan for $69.85 million to build another Adelaide High School campus at the Clipsal site, Bowden as part of a new Transit Orientated Development.
Re: Bowden Village TOD (Clipsal site)
Yes, I'll have that.AG wrote:Visualisation (powerpoint) from the LMC of how one of the laneways might look:
http://www.lmc.sa.gov.au/_inc/track_dow ... sp?did=441
Re: Bowden Village TOD (Clipsal site)
I decided to venture slightly further afield from the Entertainment Centre area to see what Bowden currently looks like. A lot of it is still industrial, some of it disused, but there are also quite a few abandoned homes in the area as well. After seeing how close it is to the tram line, the Entertainment Centre, Hindmarsh Stadium, The Gov, an underused train station and its proximity to the city and how underused most of the land is you get a real sense of appreciation of the potential for redevelopment this area has. The following are from Gibson Street in Bowden:
Industrial site that will be redeveloped in the near future:
This area is really close to Bowden Station (at the level crossing) and the Entertainment Centre (car park in the background):
One of a few abandoned homes in the area:
There are a lot of gated laneways like this one:
Bowden Station, not very well used and not exactly very inviting either:
Quite a few buildings have smashed windows like this one on Port Road:
Industrial site that will be redeveloped in the near future:
This area is really close to Bowden Station (at the level crossing) and the Entertainment Centre (car park in the background):
One of a few abandoned homes in the area:
There are a lot of gated laneways like this one:
Bowden Station, not very well used and not exactly very inviting either:
Quite a few buildings have smashed windows like this one on Port Road:
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Re: Bowden Village TOD (Clipsal site)
Bowden certainly does look uninviting mate - windswept, overheating and unprotected. No station bldgs. Classic old Adelaide style of 40 - 50 yrs ago. Hopefully will change with the TOD development.AG wrote:I decided to venture slightly further afield from the Entertainment Centre area to see what Bowden currently looks like. A lot of it is still industrial, some of it disused, but there are also quite a few abandoned homes in the area as well. After seeing how close it is to the tram line, the Entertainment Centre, Hindmarsh Stadium, The Gov, an underused train station and its proximity to the city and how underused most of the land is you get a real sense of appreciation of the potential for redevelopment this area has. The following are from Gibson Street in Bowden:
Industrial site that will be redeveloped in the near future:
This area is really close to Bowden Station (at the level crossing) and the Entertainment Centre (car park in the background):
One of a few abandoned homes in the area:
There are a lot of gated laneways like this one:
Bowden Station, not very well used and not exactly very inviting either:
Quite a few buildings have smashed windows like this one on Port Road:
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Re: Bowden Village TOD (Clipsal site)
There are two station buildings, its just SG's photo it taken from the wrong angle/location.skyliner wrote:Bowden certainly does look uninviting mate - windswept, overheating and unprotected. No station bldgs. Classic old Adelaide style of 40 - 50 yrs ago. Hopefully will change with the TOD development.AG wrote: Bowden Station, not very well used and not exactly very inviting either:
The original 1856 station is visible though, just no obvious.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bowden_rai ... ,_Adelaide
The second building is a 1970s era besser blocks, its not as bad as they usually are, but should be replaced anyway.
The real problem with this station is that the greedy state government sold off the carpark on the southern platform, thus making it hard to see/get to the station itself.
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Re: Bowden Village TOD (Clipsal site)
Bit of an old article, but still relevant:
http://www.lmc.sa.gov.au/bowdenvillage/ ... sp?nid=111Land purchase to benefit Bowden Village plan
22 Feb 2010
The State Government's Bowden Village project has received a massive boost with Infrastructure Minister Patrick Conlon today announcing the purchase of the neighbouring former gas works site from Origin Energy.
The purchase of the 5.7-hectare site adjacent to the Government owned 10.3-hectare former Clipsal site means the Bowden Village project will now span 16 hectares.
Mr Conlon says it is a fantastic opportunity to expand the innovative Transit Oriented Development (TOD) planned for the former Clipsal site.
“This is not just about removing an eye-sore from Bowden, it is about a world class development that will rejuvenate the local area,” he said.
“As part of the 30 Year Plan for Greater Adelaide we intend to create a series of TODs across Adelaide with Bowden Village the centrepiece on the City’s doorstep.
“Our planning reforms, complemented by the unprecedented $2 billion public transport revolution will allow this area to be transformed into a high density mixed use development that reduces the reliance on cars.
“It will include cafes, specialty shops, a mix of housing, offices and open space, all within walking distance and adjacent to the Adelaide Parklands.
“Bowden Village will demonstrate world’s best practice with regard to sustainability, community building and design excellence.
“It is these types of developments we want to see located alongside our new electrified rail and tram lines – in this case the electrified Outer Harbor line and the tram extension to Port Adelaide.
“The expansion of the former Clipsal site development means it will provide around 2,000 dwellings for 3,500 people plus staff for retail and commercial premises.”
Under the deal, the State Government paid a token amount of $1. Origin will contribute $12 million towards the remediation of the land to be carried out by the Government’s Land Management Corporation (LMC).
Remediation work is anticipated to start in 2011 with an estimated total cost of up to $30 million.
The development of both the Clipsal and Origin sites will occur in a coordinated manner, with civil works construction expected to commence on the Clipsal site in 2011. The Bowden Urban Village project will be developed over an 8 to 10 year period.
The Origin site was once owned by the old SA Gas Company (SAGASCO) and became Origin Energy property as a result of privatisation. The site is no longer used by Origin.
“All State listed heritage items including the imposing heritage wall, chimney and bluestone shed will be retained as part of the future development of the site,” said Mr Conlon.
“We want to bring the life back to the inner suburbs through use of urban infill development at the same time as being able to curb the ever-expanding greenfields development at the fringes of the metropolitan area.
“By purchasing the Origin site and integrating it into our plans, we will now be able to improve the benefits delivered to the local community.”
This Media Release was issued by Hon Patrick Conlon, Infrastructure Minister on 22 February 2010.
Re: Bowden Village TOD (Clipsal site)
I am hoping that construction starting in 2011 we are in position that future governments don’t chop and change the development and we end up with a mishmash of government ideas leading to nothing.
After looking at the New Port Quays development it will interesting to see if they try and put the commercial/retail works in early along with a few residential buildings to ensure there is a reason to live in the new development in the first place but also to avoid future changes limiting the effectiveness of the TOD (i.e not having them at all)
These TODs ideas are interesting and you would think the success or failure of this one will have a massive bearing on future ones (unless they are to start first?) with I think Woodville and Norlunga also planning one?
After looking at the New Port Quays development it will interesting to see if they try and put the commercial/retail works in early along with a few residential buildings to ensure there is a reason to live in the new development in the first place but also to avoid future changes limiting the effectiveness of the TOD (i.e not having them at all)
These TODs ideas are interesting and you would think the success or failure of this one will have a massive bearing on future ones (unless they are to start first?) with I think Woodville and Norlunga also planning one?
Re: Bowden Village TOD (Clipsal site)
The location is within walking distance of the CBD, it could be fully residential and they would have no problem getting people in.capitalist wrote:I am hoping that construction starting in 2011 we are in position that future governments don’t chop and change the development and we end up with a mishmash of government ideas leading to nothing.
After looking at the New Port Quays development it will interesting to see if they try and put the commercial/retail works in early along with a few residential buildings to ensure there is a reason to live in the new development in the first place but also to avoid future changes limiting the effectiveness of the TOD (i.e not having them at all)
These TODs ideas are interesting and you would think the success or failure of this one will have a massive bearing on future ones (unless they are to start first?) with I think Woodville and Norlunga also planning one?
Re: Bowden Village TOD (Clipsal site)
I thought the idea of these things was to have people living where they worked as well?
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