[COM] SAHMRI | $200m

[Prince George]

I have a funny feeling people in places other than Adelaide don't feel the need to call something a "world class stadium"

Have no fear, they absolutely do; this idea of "only in Adelaide" is bunk. Practically everywhere people are concerned about their status and they're unsure what to do about it other than hoping that a shiny new thing will "put us on the map", presumably by being blogged / emailed / included on travel shows.

[Waewick]

fair enough, i'll cop that sweet.

While yes I can agree that the building looks interesting I still doubt it will ever be built.

[Benski81]

fair enough, i'll cop that sweet.

While yes I can agree that the building looks interesting I still doubt it will ever be built.

Like Howie said, this is federally funded and is therefore not contingent on the election outcome. So there is a very good chance it will indeed be built. A healthy amount of cynicism is a good thing but the key word there is healthy.

And like most people I really do like this building, some really different architecture we can be proud of.

As for AdelaideNow I couldn't leave it alone could I. I just had to read the comments didn't I. I felt like throwing my computer through my office window! It makes me so angry, words can't express.

[medo]

Hi,
Taking into account history of The Advertiser/AdelaideNow, I think we should have unique topic about their role in “development” of the CBD.

Medo

[frank1]

i have a query..will this new research institute go ahead if the liberals win the election and if so where will they put it?

[monotonehell]

i have a query..will this new research institute go ahead if the liberals win the election and if so where will they put it?

A rude question: Did you read the last few posts? Or any of the rest of the thread?

I think most people on this forum understand it's all politics, but there's no knocking the architecture.. I just wish it was election time more often so we can see more of these bad boys around town.

Also the fact that it'll be federally funded will mean it gets built with either Labor or Liberal in charge. Would be nice to see a retained RAH and research precinct on Frome Road, while having the HMRI in the west with a Riverside/stadium development next door. Best of both worlds in my opinion.

Like Howie said, this is federally funded and is therefore not contingent on the election outcome. So there is a very good chance it will indeed be built...

As to where will they put it.. that might be a good question to put to the Libs.

[Adelarch]

As for AdelaideNow I couldn't leave it alone could I. I just had to read the comments didn't I. I felt like throwing my computer through my office window! It makes me so angry, words can't express.

yep I share your sentiments as I'm sure many of us do. Some of these people leave you wondering what exactly they want apart from the chance to have a good old whinge. They usually go on about how we should be putting more money into healthcare and infrastructure... but the fact that this actually is healthcare doesn't seem to have reduced the quanta of thoughtless vitriolic musings. I just hope that most of these people are political hacks rather than the general population? One can only hope..

As Atd pointed out it's pretty much damaging to your mental health to spend too much time reading Adelaidenow comments - I for one am going to cut back on my perusings

[Will]

I drove past the site today, and it appears that preliminary work may have already started on this project.

A fence has been erected with Baulderstone Hornibrook signange around a site which fits with the site for this project.

Just in time for the election?

[Adelarch]

I drove past the site today, and it appears that preliminary work may have already started on this project.

A fence has been erected with Baulderstone Hornibrook signange around a site which fits with the site for this project.

Just in time for the election?

As I undertand it Baulderstones are actually working on a project on the adjacent site whilst Hindmarsh will be on HMRI

[Aidan]

In the Adelaide context, the architecture is atrocious! Transparent buildings are well suited to higher latitudes, but here there's a much greater problem with heat gain. Air conditioning bills are going to be enormous!

[monotonehell]

In the Adelaide context, the architecture is atrocious! Transparent buildings are well suited to higher latitudes, but here there's a much greater problem with heat gain. Air conditioning bills are going to be enormous!

Did you mean to post that on Adelaide Now? Being an informed and up to current technology engineer, you should know better regarding contemporary air flow designs.

[Aidan]

In the Adelaide context, the architecture is atrocious! Transparent buildings are well suited to higher latitudes, but here there's a much greater problem with heat gain. Air conditioning bills are going to be enormous!

Did you mean to post that on Adelaide Now? Being an informed and up to current technology engineer, you should know better regarding contemporary air flow designs.

No, I deliberately posted it here because so many people here are under the illusion that it's a good design!

And it isn't just an air flow issue. Adelaide is hot. In summer the outside temperature often exceeds a comfortable work temperature - sometimes by as much as 15°C. So you can't just cool it down by improving airflow - you need to use air conditioning. Having glass walls means much more sunlight will enter and turn into heat, so you need to expend more energy on air conditioning to get rid of it.

[monotonehell]

In the Adelaide context, the architecture is atrocious! Transparent buildings are well suited to higher latitudes, but here there's a much greater problem with heat gain. Air conditioning bills are going to be enormous!

Did you mean to post that on Adelaide Now? Being an informed and up to current technology engineer, you should know better regarding contemporary air flow designs.

No, I deliberately posted it here because so many people here are under the illusion that it's a good design!

And it isn't just an air flow issue. Adelaide is hot. In summer the outside temperature often exceeds a comfortable work temperature - sometimes by as much as 15°C. So you can't just cool it down by improving airflow - you need to use air conditioning. Having glass walls means much more sunlight will enter and turn into heat, so you need to expend more energy on air conditioning to get rid of it.

Well only if you ignore things like.. oh I don't know... maybe the last 20 odd years of HVAC design in architecture.

You're comparing a glasshouse to a building that has glass walls. Same non-logic that gives us; "A table has four legs, a dog has four legs, therefore a dog is a table." Jump on down to a uni library or search the 'net, you need to catch up on a few years' worth of progress in design.

[Briggzy_03]

No, I deliberately posted it here because so many people here are under the illusion that it's a good design!

Yes Aidan, I'm sure the architects who got paid thousands of dollars to design the building didn't consider its energy efficiency /off topic

Silly question, the $200 million pricemark, that would include all the expensive equipment that comes with a research centre yes?

At a second glance of the design, I'm kind of disappointed the building isn't taller and/or doesn't cover more of the rail lines. I guess future developments can be done over the remaining space?

[Aidan]

No, I deliberately posted it here because so many people here are under the illusion that it's a good design!

And it isn't just an air flow issue. Adelaide is hot. In summer the outside temperature often exceeds a comfortable work temperature - sometimes by as much as 15°C. So you can't just cool it down by improving airflow - you need to use air conditioning. Having glass walls means much more sunlight will enter and turn into heat, so you need to expend more energy on air conditioning to get rid of it.

Well only if you ignore things like.. oh I don't know... maybe the last 20 odd years of HVAC design in architecture.

You cannae change the laws of physics!

You're comparing a glasshouse to a building that has glass walls. Same non-logic that gives us; "A table has four legs, a dog has four legs, therefore a dog is a table." Jump on down to a uni library or search the 'net, you need to catch up on a few years' worth of progress in design.

Then perhaps you'd like to tell me exactly what the flaw in my reasoning is:
Does a building that has glass walls not let more sunlight in?
Does it not turn into heat once it's in there?
Do we not have to use air conditioning to get rid of that extra heat?

The problem isn't confined to buildings with glass walls - it applies to any buildings with large unshaded windows, particularly on the N side. That's why verandahs are so popular here, and indeed some commercial buildings incorporate them. That's probably the best solution, but plenty of other things have been tried. Windows can be designed to reduce heat gain, but not to eliminate it.