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[COM] Re: Festival Plaza Tower 1 | 115m | 27 Levels | Office

Posted: Sat Jan 18, 2025 8:54 am
by [Shuz]
If you ever wanted literal physical proof of corruption in politics and dodgy loopholes - this is it. The whole naming thing is a dog's breakfast, Walker is laughing all the way to the bank with whatever deal was given to him to get away with this absurdity.

[COM] Re: Festival Plaza Tower 1 | 115m | 27 Levels | Office

Posted: Sat Jan 18, 2025 10:17 am
by Nort
AndyWelsh wrote:
Fri Jan 17, 2025 5:01 pm
Image
That photo really is a perfect snapshot of all the corruption around this development, looks like a political cartoon.

[COM] Re: Festival Plaza Tower 1 | 115m | 27 Levels | Office

Posted: Sat Jan 18, 2025 10:58 am
by VinyTapestry849
Rather funny actually.

You all think it’s a dodgy deal with developers but clearly it’s just the state government trying to get festival plaza completed and suitable.

All the Gov wants is more premium office space, and that’s what’s driving Festival Tower 2.

You guys sound like conspiracy theory loonies saying these people control government. May I remind you that state law passed last year says that political donations are now totally banned. These companies just want better office space, and it just so happens to be located behind Parliament House.


Move on.

[COM] Re: Festival Plaza Tower 1 | 115m | 27 Levels | Office

Posted: Sat Jan 18, 2025 12:00 pm
by abc
VinyTapestry849 wrote:
Sat Jan 18, 2025 10:58 am
Rather funny actually.

You all think it’s a dodgy deal with developers but clearly it’s just the state government trying to get festival plaza completed and suitable.

All the Gov wants is more premium office space, and that’s what’s driving Festival Tower 2.

You guys sound like conspiracy theory loonies saying these people control government. May I remind you that state law passed last year says that political donations are now totally banned. These companies just want better office space, and it just so happens to be located behind Parliament House.


Move on.
...please :roll:

[COM] Re: Festival Plaza Tower 1 | 115m | 27 Levels | Office

Posted: Sat Jan 18, 2025 8:42 pm
by Ben
Funny thing is the Westpac logo will be completely blocked by the new tower anyway.

[COM] Re: Festival Plaza Tower 1 | 115m | 27 Levels | Office

Posted: Sun Jan 19, 2025 1:37 am
by abc
2025's State Bank building

IFYKYK

[COM] Re: Festival Plaza Tower 1 | 115m | 27 Levels | Office

Posted: Sun Jan 19, 2025 3:07 am
by Mpol02
It’s just so bland and miss managed. Represents ADL development all round.

Nice to see others are happy with this I guess. They’d worship a 300 pole in the ground at this point.

[COM] Re: Festival Plaza Tower 1 | 115m | 27 Levels | Office

Posted: Sun Jan 19, 2025 2:26 pm
by Patrick_27
VinyTapestry849 wrote:
Sat Jan 18, 2025 10:58 am
Rather funny actually.

You all think it’s a dodgy deal with developers but clearly it’s just the state government trying to get festival plaza completed and suitable.

All the Gov wants is more premium office space, and that’s what’s driving Festival Tower 2.

You guys sound like conspiracy theory loonies saying these people control government. May I remind you that state law passed last year says that political donations are now totally banned. These companies just want better office space, and it just so happens to be located behind Parliament House.


Move on.
Viny, you're one to talk. With all of these proposals and developments, you are the lapdog for any and every developer in Adelaide. What's actually driving Festival Tower 2 is Walker Corp buying and bullying their way into maximising their gains from the contract they signed regarding this precinct, the Labor government having no spine have opted to cash in on Walkers demands and expectations by allowing for a proposal to get up which they could then relocate the Department of Premier and Cabinet/Treasury from Vic Square. What did we, the taxpayer, gain from this? A massive carpark, that we're still required to pay for and is really only there to benefit the Casino and on occasion patrons of the Festival Centre, and a public plaza that hasn't delivered on any of its design outcomes; rarely used for public events and with virtually no hospitality offerings accessible for the average person.
"Completed and suitable" are the words of someone who clearly hasn't taken a walk around the precinct, and if you have, you must have been blindfolded. Adelaide needs premium office-space, sure, there are plenty of other CBD sites sitting dormant that the government either owns or could own to push for these needs (the old bus terminal on Flinders Street, for one). And those laws only extend to election buying donations, these companies we're talking about want their presence and branding on a building that will not at any point in time be interrupted by neighbouring development and in the case of Deliotte, will always be in every postcard shot of Adelaide CBD, in every television frame for events at Adelaide Oval and The Drive and so on.

[COM] Re: Festival Plaza Tower 1 | 115m | 27 Levels | Office

Posted: Sun Jan 19, 2025 5:28 pm
by timtam20292
*Old bus terminal on Franklin Street.

[COM] Re: Festival Plaza Tower 1 | 115m | 27 Levels | Office

Posted: Mon Jan 20, 2025 9:57 am
by Ursus Maritimus
I was looking out the window of our office and noticed the Westpac logo had been installed. It looks a bit stupid, in my view. It should have at least been placed in the centre rather than right next to the Flinders one.
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[COM] Re: Festival Plaza Tower 1 | 115m | 27 Levels | Office

Posted: Mon Jan 20, 2025 11:18 am
by VinyTapestry849
Ursus Maritimus wrote:
Mon Jan 20, 2025 9:57 am
I was looking out the window of our office and noticed the Westpac logo had been installed. It looks a bit stupid, in my view. It should have at least been placed in the centre rather than right next to the Flinders one.

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It’s placed the way it is because there’s another tower going up next to it. If it’s in the middle it won’t be seen by anyone.

[COM] Re: Festival Plaza Tower 1 | 115m | 27 Levels | Office

Posted: Mon Jan 20, 2025 11:22 am
by VinyTapestry849
Patrick_27 wrote:
Sun Jan 19, 2025 2:26 pm
VinyTapestry849 wrote:
Sat Jan 18, 2025 10:58 am
Rather funny actually.

You all think it’s a dodgy deal with developers but clearly it’s just the state government trying to get festival plaza completed and suitable.

All the Gov wants is more premium office space, and that’s what’s driving Festival Tower 2.

You guys sound like conspiracy theory loonies saying these people control government. May I remind you that state law passed last year says that political donations are now totally banned. These companies just want better office space, and it just so happens to be located behind Parliament House.


Move on.
Viny, you're one to talk. With all of these proposals and developments, you are the lapdog for any and every developer in Adelaide. What's actually driving Festival Tower 2 is Walker Corp buying and bullying their way into maximising their gains from the contract they signed regarding this precinct, the Labor government having no spine have opted to cash in on Walkers demands and expectations by allowing for a proposal to get up which they could then relocate the Department of Premier and Cabinet/Treasury from Vic Square. What did we, the taxpayer, gain from this? A massive carpark, that we're still required to pay for and is really only there to benefit the Casino and on occasion patrons of the Festival Centre, and a public plaza that hasn't delivered on any of its design outcomes; rarely used for public events and with virtually no hospitality offerings accessible for the average person.
"Completed and suitable" are the words of someone who clearly hasn't taken a walk around the precinct, and if you have, you must have been blindfolded. Adelaide needs premium office-space, sure, there are plenty of other CBD sites sitting dormant that the government either owns or could own to push for these needs (the old bus terminal on Flinders Street, for one). And those laws only extend to election buying donations, these companies we're talking about want their presence and branding on a building that will not at any point in time be interrupted by neighbouring development and in the case of Deliotte, will always be in every postcard shot of Adelaide CBD, in every television frame for events at Adelaide Oval and The Drive and so on.
Dude anything was better than this dilapidated heap of coloured concrete.

[COM] Re: Festival Plaza Tower 1 | 115m | 27 Levels | Office

Posted: Mon Jan 20, 2025 11:31 am
by rev
I reckon new towers would be better if they were designed without having logos slapped on them.

[COM] Re: Festival Plaza Tower 1 | 115m | 27 Levels | Office

Posted: Mon Jan 20, 2025 1:19 pm
by gnrc_louis
VinyTapestry849 wrote:
Mon Jan 20, 2025 11:22 am
Patrick_27 wrote:
Sun Jan 19, 2025 2:26 pm
VinyTapestry849 wrote:
Sat Jan 18, 2025 10:58 am
Rather funny actually.

You all think it’s a dodgy deal with developers but clearly it’s just the state government trying to get festival plaza completed and suitable.

All the Gov wants is more premium office space, and that’s what’s driving Festival Tower 2.

You guys sound like conspiracy theory loonies saying these people control government. May I remind you that state law passed last year says that political donations are now totally banned. These companies just want better office space, and it just so happens to be located behind Parliament House.


Move on.
Viny, you're one to talk. With all of these proposals and developments, you are the lapdog for any and every developer in Adelaide. What's actually driving Festival Tower 2 is Walker Corp buying and bullying their way into maximising their gains from the contract they signed regarding this precinct, the Labor government having no spine have opted to cash in on Walkers demands and expectations by allowing for a proposal to get up which they could then relocate the Department of Premier and Cabinet/Treasury from Vic Square. What did we, the taxpayer, gain from this? A massive carpark, that we're still required to pay for and is really only there to benefit the Casino and on occasion patrons of the Festival Centre, and a public plaza that hasn't delivered on any of its design outcomes; rarely used for public events and with virtually no hospitality offerings accessible for the average person.
"Completed and suitable" are the words of someone who clearly hasn't taken a walk around the precinct, and if you have, you must have been blindfolded. Adelaide needs premium office-space, sure, there are plenty of other CBD sites sitting dormant that the government either owns or could own to push for these needs (the old bus terminal on Flinders Street, for one). And those laws only extend to election buying donations, these companies we're talking about want their presence and branding on a building that will not at any point in time be interrupted by neighbouring development and in the case of Deliotte, will always be in every postcard shot of Adelaide CBD, in every television frame for events at Adelaide Oval and The Drive and so on.
Dude anything was better than this dilapidated heap of coloured concrete.
This is very obviously rage-baiting.

[COM] Re: Festival Plaza Tower 1 | 115m | 27 Levels | Office

Posted: Mon Jan 20, 2025 1:37 pm
by Spotto
rev wrote:
Mon Jan 20, 2025 11:31 am
I reckon new towers would be better if they were designed without having logos slapped on them.
I reckon the new towers would be better if they were actually designed to be better. You can still have attractive buildings with logos on them.