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[APP] Re: Masonic Lodge | 183m | 42 Levels | Mixed Use

Posted: Thu Apr 13, 2023 11:01 am
by abc
rev wrote:
Thu Apr 13, 2023 10:09 am
I'd rather a dense city/cbd filled with 60-150m tall buildings then a few really tall buildings.
A vibrant city with life day and night.
you want to fill it up with commie blocks so its 'vibrant' when you visit from your suburban 3BR

[APP] Re: Masonic Lodge | 183m | 42 Levels | Mixed Use

Posted: Thu Apr 13, 2023 1:05 pm
by Will
abc wrote:
Thu Apr 13, 2023 10:59 am


let me help you with some maths

the Masonic lodge won't be completed until 2027 if their current schedule goes to plan...that's best case scenario...so we're talking about 1977 here as a comparison
let me help you with some history

in 1977 the tallest building in Perth was Allendale Square which is 132m tall.

But, as you mentioned math, let me also give you a hand here.

I suspect you are alluding to the Bankwest Tower, which is 214m tall. It was completed in 1988. That is a full 11 years out from your own calculation.

[APP] Re: Masonic Lodge | 183m | 42 Levels | Mixed Use

Posted: Thu Apr 13, 2023 5:04 pm
by abc
Will wrote:
Thu Apr 13, 2023 1:05 pm
abc wrote:
Thu Apr 13, 2023 10:59 am


let me help you with some maths

the Masonic lodge won't be completed until 2027 if their current schedule goes to plan...that's best case scenario...so we're talking about 1977 here as a comparison
let me help you with some history

in 1977 the tallest building in Perth was Allendale Square which is 132m tall.

But, as you mentioned math, let me also give you a hand here.

I suspect you are alluding to the Bankwest Tower, which is 214m tall. It was completed in 1988. That is a full 11 years out from your own calculation.
St Martins tower...we haven't even caught up to

Bankwest we'll be waiting until the 22nd Century or never unless they start building talls in Salisbury and Marion

[APP] Re: Masonic Lodge | 183m | 42 Levels | Mixed Use

Posted: Thu Apr 13, 2023 11:19 pm
by MicBara
Nort wrote:
Tue Apr 11, 2023 6:16 pm
MicBara wrote:
Tue Apr 11, 2023 5:27 pm
VinyTapestry849 wrote:
Sun Apr 09, 2023 10:27 am


Hey Micbara, when do you think construction will start and finish on this development? Could you give us a rough timeline if you can?

Cheers,
Finishing the working drawings is a huge task, practically speaking I would expect construction to commence feb 2024 and finish 2 years later, the program looks like around 18 months, but that's a little to ambitious if you ask me.
I love this honesty. Did you have to get approval from higher ups before engaging with us or just YOLO'ing it?
Hah, higher ups. I'm the leading consultant mate, and it's a membership-based organization. We made the decision very early on to be as public and honest as we could from the start. It's always been viewed as a public building owned by a community organisation which means everyone has a right to know and to comment. Ironically there are no secrets in this secret organisation :-)

[APP] Re: Masonic Lodge | 183m | 42 Levels | Mixed Use

Posted: Fri Apr 14, 2023 1:37 am
by Nort
MicBara wrote:
Thu Apr 13, 2023 11:19 pm
Nort wrote:
Tue Apr 11, 2023 6:16 pm
MicBara wrote:
Tue Apr 11, 2023 5:27 pm

Finishing the working drawings is a huge task, practically speaking I would expect construction to commence feb 2024 and finish 2 years later, the program looks like around 18 months, but that's a little to ambitious if you ask me.
I love this honesty. Did you have to get approval from higher ups before engaging with us or just YOLO'ing it?
Hah, higher ups. I'm the leading consultant mate, and it's a membership-based organization. We made the decision very early on to be as public and honest as we could from the start. It's always been viewed as a public building owned by a community organisation which means everyone has a right to know and to comment. Ironically there are no secrets in this secret organisation :-)
Fair enough! That makes the level of engagement even cooler.

Have seen the FB debates haha, fighting the good fight.

[APP] Re: Masonic Lodge | 183m | 42 Levels | Mixed Use

Posted: Sun Apr 16, 2023 6:15 pm
by 1NEEDS2POST
VinyTapestry849 wrote:
Wed Apr 12, 2023 7:45 pm
abc wrote:
Wed Apr 12, 2023 6:27 pm
VinyTapestry849 wrote:
Wed Apr 12, 2023 10:38 am
I was upset about the height decrease to 183m instead of 187, but like literally... its only 4 metres it'll still be hella tall compared to what we have now

I think it'll be good for Adelaide
yes we'll only be 50 years behind when a building of that height was Melbourne's tallest :banana:

...and Perth :|
Well unless we move the airport, its likely to stay that way

They've already started planning to double the size of the airport to accommodate the A380's and 747 which it for some reason expects to come to little adelaide. So unfortunatley it probably won't happen
Taller buildings could be built in the south of the CBD and there would be no conflicts with the airport. The problem is everyone wants to be on North Terrace.

[APP] Re: Masonic Lodge | 183m | 42 Levels | Mixed Use

Posted: Sun Apr 16, 2023 10:58 pm
by abc
1NEEDS2POST wrote:
Sun Apr 16, 2023 6:15 pm
VinyTapestry849 wrote:
Wed Apr 12, 2023 7:45 pm
abc wrote:
Wed Apr 12, 2023 6:27 pm


yes we'll only be 50 years behind when a building of that height was Melbourne's tallest :banana:

...and Perth :|
Well unless we move the airport, its likely to stay that way

They've already started planning to double the size of the airport to accommodate the A380's and 747 which it for some reason expects to come to little adelaide. So unfortunatley it probably won't happen
Taller buildings could be built in the south of the CBD and there would be no conflicts with the airport. The problem is everyone wants to be on North Terrace.
I live in the south of the CBD and planes fly right overhead

its the planes taking off that dictates the height limit, not the ones landing which fly over the Torrens

[APP] Re: Masonic Lodge | 183m | 42 Levels | Mixed Use

Posted: Mon Apr 17, 2023 4:24 pm
by ChillyPhilly
abc wrote:
Sun Apr 16, 2023 10:58 pm
1NEEDS2POST wrote:
Sun Apr 16, 2023 6:15 pm
VinyTapestry849 wrote:
Wed Apr 12, 2023 7:45 pm


Well unless we move the airport, its likely to stay that way

They've already started planning to double the size of the airport to accommodate the A380's and 747 which it for some reason expects to come to little adelaide. So unfortunatley it probably won't happen
Taller buildings could be built in the south of the CBD and there would be no conflicts with the airport. The problem is everyone wants to be on North Terrace.
I live in the south of the CBD and planes fly right overhead

its the planes taking off that dictates the height limit, not the ones landing which fly over the Torrens
The emergency flight path is over the CBD.

[APP] Re: Masonic Lodge | 183m | 42 Levels | Mixed Use

Posted: Mon Apr 17, 2023 8:20 pm
by abc
ChillyPhilly wrote:
Mon Apr 17, 2023 4:24 pm
abc wrote:
Sun Apr 16, 2023 10:58 pm
1NEEDS2POST wrote:
Sun Apr 16, 2023 6:15 pm


Taller buildings could be built in the south of the CBD and there would be no conflicts with the airport. The problem is everyone wants to be on North Terrace.
I live in the south of the CBD and planes fly right overhead

its the planes taking off that dictates the height limit, not the ones landing which fly over the Torrens
The emergency flight path is over the CBD.
depending on the weather the planes take off in different directions... when they're taking off to the east they all go straight over the southern part of the city of adelaide

[APP] Re: Masonic Lodge | 183m | 42 Levels | Mixed Use

Posted: Tue May 16, 2023 9:13 am
by gnrc_louis

[APP] Re: Masonic Lodge | 183m | 42 Levels | Mixed Use

Posted: Tue Jun 06, 2023 10:30 pm
by MicBara
Hey everyone.
Just a quick update. The members voted unanimously to proceed with a joint venture partner (Pelligra) and get on with construction. This was an essential internal milestone and it was pretty awesome (as a non-Freemason) to see.
250 members and their spouses attended a special event they call a "grand communication" dressed in their full "regalia" or uniform to ask questions and vote.

Perhaps the most heartening thing for me was the questions from very elderly gents on the sustainability and environmental impact of the building. They really are a pretty special group.
So now it's full steam ahead!

[APP] Re: Masonic Lodge | 183m | 42 Levels | Mixed Use

Posted: Tue Jun 06, 2023 11:20 pm
by timtam20292
Thanks for the update.

So excited for this one!!!

[APP] Re: Masonic Lodge | 183m | 42 Levels | Mixed Use

Posted: Wed Jun 07, 2023 6:52 am
by Mpol02
Does this not need to be approved though?

Or do you mean it’s full steam ahead as it now has the Masons blessings?

Regardless thabks for another fantastic update :)

[APP] Re: Masonic Lodge | 183m | 42 Levels | Mixed Use

Posted: Fri Sep 15, 2023 9:25 pm
by VinyTapestry849
MicBara wrote:
Tue Jun 06, 2023 10:30 pm
Hey everyone.
Just a quick update. The members voted unanimously to proceed with a joint venture partner (Pelligra) and get on with construction. This was an essential internal milestone and it was pretty awesome (as a non-Freemason) to see.
250 members and their spouses attended a special event they call a "grand communication" dressed in their full "regalia" or uniform to ask questions and vote.

Perhaps the most heartening thing for me was the questions from very elderly gents on the sustainability and environmental impact of the building. They really are a pretty special group.
So now it's full steam ahead!
Any updates for us Mic? Its been a while :)

[APP] Re: Masonic Lodge | 183m | 42 Levels | Mixed Use

Posted: Sun Sep 17, 2023 7:28 am
by [Shuz]
For the hundredth time, if there's an update, someone will post about it. Please stop bumping threads for no reason.